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Sorry if this has been discussed, but wondering if you think there will be any coaching changes in the off season? If so who? Cavanaugh and Banker being top of the list in my humble opinion.
 
Neither of them, they have 1-2 yrs left. If Cav closes a couple big recruits he will safe for MR's tenure
 
You have to have something to work with, let's see what happens in a couple yrs with talent. Last yr and this yr are better than past 3 in terms of talent.
 
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This is my concern after watching the end of the regular season and bowl game.
My deep down hope is, the second half of the season was still a result of the Bo hangover. Those players should pretty well be all purgued next year. If it wasn't, it was a result of poor coaching. In that case we are screwed for at least another 1-3 years.
 
Only Coaching change there is going to be is adding a Offensive asst... I would like to see another offensive line Coach to help Coach Cav.
Agreed, amd not to knock on cav, i dont care who the o line coach is, thats a lot of players and positions to coach. An experienced line assistant with maybe another responsibility would be nice.
 
My deep down hope is, the second half of the season was still a result of the Bo hangover. Those players should pretty well be all purgued next year. If it wasn't, it was a result of poor coaching. In that case we are screwed for at least another 1-3 years.

I highly doubt any one thing was a reason for the end result of the season. Injuries, some missing horses, players themselves, coaching decisions, etc.

There were times when the team played with some fire and played pretty damn well doing so but much of the time it just looked like they were going through the motions and nothing more. Put in some damn effort for crying out loud. I do think we lack some needed talent but we're not that damn bad. If we had 11 players at a time playing with some fire and passion then we could've done much better. Instead we had 9 guys lumbering around while 2 guys tried to make up for it. Need some damn captains and team leaders with some fire who makes others bust their asses off. We don't seem to have that team spirit..
 
I have to admit, our team looks like they have been wussified by this staff. Watching the LOS against Iowa and Tennessee made me ill.

I guess I don't understand you singling out this staff. I saw just as many "wussified" players who "quit" during the Pelini years, especially the last few seasons. Blaming this solely on the current staff is simply not true. I watched the line play when Nebraska got pushed around by FCS McNeese St and needed Abdullah to singlehandedly win that game. Or heck a couple of Wisconsin games where there was zero effort or toughness on display.
 
I have a hunch that if NU doesn't land a good RB, Davis may "seek other opportunities". Sort of like Hughes was given a chance to land needed line help, and when it didn't happen, he got his pink slip immediately after NSD. I don't see how Riley can tolerate a coach being responsible for recruiting one crucial player a year and having so much trouble doing so. If Wilbon bails, we are paper thin at RB. I see parallels between the Hughes situation and the Davis situation.

Also, I don't know who makes the call about who gets carries when, but I felt we had problems with that all year. Namely, Ozigbo disappearing for reasons unknown, going with Newby so much last Friday, and the way they don't use Wilbon.
 
I have a hunch that if NU doesn't land a good RB, Davis may "seek other opportunities". Sort of like Hughes was given a chance to land needed line help, and when it didn't happen, he got his pink slip immediately after NSD. I don't see how Riley can tolerate a coach being responsible for recruiting one crucial player a year and having so much trouble doing so. If Wilbon bails, we are paper thin at RB. I see parallels between the Hughes situation and the Davis situation.

Also, I don't know who makes the call about who gets carries when, but I felt we had problems with that all year. Namely, Ozigbo disappearing for reasons unknown, going with Newby so much last Friday, and the way they don't use Wilbon.

Ozigbo had an injury and was limited, or couldn't go at all, for about half of the season.
 
Problem is the biggest recruits won't make a difference if coaches can't develop them.

Started 4 sophs on the OL line in the bowl game, all of the talent on the OL are currently So, RFr, and Fr...it will take some time for them to develop.
 
Yeah, but did you not see them hold their own versus physical Wisconsin and Minnesota? And wear down countless other teams in the 4th quarter?

It's sort of like the D checked out after the Maryland game.
This. I posted in another thread that the coaches seemed to have lost this team at the end. Something happened.
 
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This. I posted in another thread that the coaches seemed to have lost this team at the end. Something happened.

here is what happened, Nebraska played well against Wisconsin but couldn't get the win. That was the personality of every Bo Pelini team. These seniors all played with those results in their mind because they couldn't get over the hump. They had no example to pull from, no remember when we faced a similar situation. Then add in the only QB that could lead the team to a win tore a hamstring, then the "leader" of the defense decides to take a gap year while still enrolled.

Simply put the leaders of this team were weak mentally. They never had a fiery leader on the field because their head coach was that fiery yeller. They never had the opportunity to police themselves because the head coach played the role. Then when they were given the opportunity to police themselves Armstrong points fingers and Gerry basically put himself first.
 
here is what happened, Nebraska played well against Wisconsin but couldn't get the win. That was the personality of every Bo Pelini team. These seniors all played with those results in their mind because they couldn't get over the hump. They had no example to pull from, no remember when we faced a similar situation. Then add in the only QB that could lead the team to a win tore a hamstring, then the "leader" of the defense decides to take a gap year while still enrolled.

Simply put the leaders of this team were weak mentally. They never had a fiery leader on the field because their head coach was that fiery yeller. They never had the opportunity to police themselves because the head coach played the role. Then when they were given the opportunity to police themselves Armstrong points fingers and Gerry basically put himself first.
Bingo. Agree 100%. I said mostly the same thing in a different thread. Losing TA was a big factor with regard to leadership
 
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[QUOTE="Husker.Wed., post: 3205230, member: 4376" the way they don't use Wilbon.[/QUOTE]
Except for one game where they flat out needed him, what has Wilbon done with his chances.
 
It wasn't leadership with Armstrong that was missed it was simply that he was the only QB that was eligible to play and not redshirting, that players had any confidence in.

Right. There was no chemistry with Fyfe. You never saw TA and RF talking it up on the sidelines, sharing info, working the team, etc.
 
It wasn't leadership with Armstrong that was missed it was simply that he was the only QB that was eligible to play and not redshirting, that players had any confidence in.
I agree. I said in another post that I don't think the team had much confidence in Fyfe. I really think the team's morale went in the shitter after the Wisky and a OSU games. Losing TA was the final blow.
 
I guess I don't understand you singling out this staff. I saw just as many "wussified" players who "quit" during the Pelini years, especially the last few seasons. Blaming this solely on the current staff is simply not true. I watched the line play when Nebraska got pushed around by FCS McNeese St and needed Abdullah to singlehandedly win that game. Or heck a couple of Wisconsin games where there was zero effort or toughness on display.

The fact is...we haven't been able to run the ball when we've needed to under this staff. I thought last year was bad, but it seems we've regressed from even last year.

Our rushing yards have decreased dramatically vs the previous staff, and I understand this is a different offense, but I believe the reason why we pass in many instances is because we have no confidence in running the ball.

Losing Ameer is obviously part of that, but seeing us struggle to run the ball when we need the yards signifies that our mentality to get the tough yards has diminished pretty dramatically. How often do we pass on 3rd and 2 or 3rd and 3?

Hearing Banker's comments about Iowa's practices being a bloodbath is also significant cause for concern. We got slammed by Iowa's physical play, and that should NEVER happen against Iowa. If your kids are getting their assess handed to them on the LOS by players that are less highly regarded coming out of high school, that is a problem in developing players, and a problem instilling toughness at the coaching level.
 
i believe you are making too much of the Banker comments. That's like me saying I bet the WR and DB practices at Oregon the past 5 years was a track meet. No shit. But you take it however it makes you feel better.

As far as running the ball, the defenses did not respect Armstrong as a thrower. Period. How many teams played us man to man and loaded the box? The offensive line recruiting has been horrible that is not on this staff

Cory Whitaker
Dylan Utter - former walk on
Zachary Hannon
Dwayne Johnson
David Knevel

Those are your junior and senior scholarship offensive linemen.
 
My deep down hope is, the second half of the season was still a result of the Bo hangover. Those players should pretty well be all purgued next year. If it wasn't, it was a result of poor coaching. In that case we are screwed for at least another 1-3 years.

I'm so sick of the "Bo" excuse. Cop out!
 
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i believe you are making too much of the Banker comments. That's like me saying I bet the WR and DB practices at Oregon the past 5 years was a track meet. No shit. But you take it however it makes you feel better.

As far as running the ball, the defenses did not respect Armstrong as a thrower. Period. How many teams played us man to man and loaded the box? The offensive line recruiting has been horrible that is not on this staff

Cory Whitaker
Dylan Utter - former walk on
Zachary Hannon
Dwayne Johnson
David Knevel

Those are your junior and senior scholarship offensive linemen.

"Making too much out of the Banker comments?" No, his comments just confirmed what I saw on the field. We got smashed by Iowa on both sides of the LOS...by lower ranked recruits. I know, without Tommie being even remotely healthy, that made things that much tougher. But make no mistake, our defense looked like a high school team in the Iowa game. That IS disconerting.

We've had 2 years of this staff, which is enough time to develop an identity on offense and defense. And even though I've seen resiliency and mental toughness, the physical toughness isn't nearly as apparent. Dare I say that we look more like a PAC-12 team, and it needs to change very quickly, or we'll be making another coaching change in 2 years.
 
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Cory Whitaker
Dylan Utter - former walk on
Zachary Hannon
Dwayne Johnson
David Knevel

Those are your junior and senior scholarship offensive linemen.

That same list for Dline is Dzuris, Natter, and Maurice. (I don't think I missed anyone).. That pretty much tells you all you need to know, to know what Riley and co. are up against.
 
"Making too much out of the Banker comments?" No, his comments just confirmed what I saw on the field. We got smashed by Iowa on both sides of the LOS...by lower ranked recruits. I know, without Tommie being even remotely healthy, that made things that much tougher. But make no mistake, our defense looked like a high school team in the Iowa game. That IS disconerting.

We've had 2 years of this staff, which is enough time to develop an identity on offense and defense. And even though I've seen resiliency and mental toughness, the physical toughness isn't nearly as apparent. Dare I say that we look more like a PAC-12 team, and it needs to change very quickly, or we'll be making another coaching change in 2 years.

You mean like USC against Penn St thus far, I'll gladly take that.
 
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Cavanaugh and Banker need to go. Our entire team looks so soft.

Agree. The team looked soft and those are 2 coaching positions should be able to instill some nastiness that we don't have.

Cavanaugh and Banker should both be fired.
 
Until there is no possibility of blaming him he will be blamed for something. I'm sure some will still blame him 10 years down the road. He sure as hell deserves it though..
Why wouldn't they? Peterson and Callahan still get blamed for stuff. Hell Coagrove can't come to the state out of fear for life.
 
I'm so sick of the "Bo" excuse. Cop out!
If the Bo excuse isn't valid, it just means it is current coaches fault. In my gut I know it probably falls on Riley. I just don't want to believe it yet. So going to hold onto the Bo Cop out for 1 more year.lol
 
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