Can't help but lol inside when I read a "take out (insert player, team, or coach here) they are average" take. It's just a way for a jealous non fan of said entity to rationalize why their team or player doesn't stack up.
Big 12 appears to be the worst Power 5 conference
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Pretty much sums up the rationale for all the vitriol directed at Deion and Colorado on this site
No doubt 100% spot on. It's the quintessential "if my aunt had a dick, she'd be my uncle" argument.
Nah, the vitriol for Colorado is warranted based on our history with them. The vitriol for Deion, however, is often exactly what you're talking about.
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I don't get that comparison personally...i've never seen a poster say "Take out (sometbing about Colorado here) and they're an average football team"
Ohio state winning as a favorite could “set the tone”?
Such a B1G comment it hurts
Loser mentality really. Adjust and get better. We would be losing games in the BIG 12 too laying like Nebraska has. We beat ourselves. That gets you beat in any conference.
This is sarcasm, right? The amount of goal post moving and mental gymnastics by the anti-Deion crowd is about as egregious as it gets when it comes to this.
I consider Oklahoma State getting blown out by South Alabama, Baylor losing to Texas State, Iowa State losing to Ohio, and Texas Tech losing to Wyoming as evidence of how bad the new Big 12 will be.
With officiating. 2 proper calls I can think of, either of which wins the game for Ohio State.
Hey...I'm simply saying it's competitive...while many of you falsely say its lopsided.
You said that last year too, and the year before....but the B1G West is 6-3 in Bowl games.
I guess you've not watched much Bama football this year? This is not your typical Saban squad. They will struggle this year. My guess is they'll end up with 4 or so losses by the end of the regular season.
Texas isn't that good either, and I have no doubt their record will reflect that by the end of the season. In the Big XII, only OU looks legit to me.
Yeah, fewer and fewer teams care about bowls outside of the top few. Players sit, teams don't want to be there, matchups aren't based on skill. They've become almost an exhibition. They're the college football post-season equivalent to pro football pre-season.
Geezus. Bama could end up with one loss or 4. Still a big win in Tuscaloosa. Especially for an OOC team. And you lose any credibility with this post. When saying OU is the only looking legit team. They have played a pillow soft schedule. And you say Texas win at Bama you come away with they aren't that good. But OU is legit haha.
So what? Bowl games that aren’t playoff are trash. As in, nobody cares and all the good players aren’t even playing
We are fighting over the toughest midgets. I’ll concede.
Feel free to save this post so that we can revisit it at the end of the season and see who was more correct.
The Big 12 sucked last year too but they somehow all got ranked at some point and were considered good when they beat others ranked teams from the weak conference
K state lost=quit making excuses as they have got lucky way too many times against junk teams last yr to carry the scales yet everyone applauded those victories.
KU sucks but will win over .500
Horns and OU are no longer Big 12 other than by forced to be there. Only two decent teams
Overall the conference looks just like what it is-2 good teams leaving for the SEC- and the rest junkers that no one wanted-The sec and the Big 12 passed all of them up so they added the minor leaguers that look like minor leaguers when they are playing power . They are a group 5 conference now!
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Kansas and K State couldn't get bowl eligible in the Big west!
Geez, you're persistent. Kinda like chlamydia.
they won't.. they would be stupid to get rid of him
with UT and OU leaving, the conference gets CU.. I dunno.. I'd still go back to the Big 12 most likely, but who knows how their money distribution works.. we used to get a higher percentage, but we no longer have any of that leverage.. I'd still get out of the BigTen.. they are starting to become like the BlackRock of CFB. They are buying up all the assets, and then you are subjugated to their rules.
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I think Gundy has been unhappy and not the same since the OAN shirt BS. He has a right to watch conservative political news just as much as all the rest of America and the world. He should have resigned then and there and would have found a new and better home.
Things look a lot different with Bama this year. There have been a lot of rumors that this could be Saban's last year and I think that could be true. I think he's legitimately starting to tire as a human being. His intensity just isn't what it was 5 - 10 years ago. His coaching staff is constantly in flux and he's built a coaching tree that is probably unrivaled in history. Now that tree is all over the SEC and starting to beat Alabama. The staff he has now isn't as good as the staffs he had over the prior decade.
Alabama also thrived on getting the very best recruits nationally and destroying teams off of sheer talent. That is getting much harder. Georgia, Texas, FSU, Miami etc are now in good hands and are taking many of the 5 star players that Alabama could count on getting. NIL has changed the game too. The guy at CU will now start getting 5 stars as well.
So I think we have already seen the high water mark at Alabama (probably 2020) and the decline is becoming more noticeable. If Saban does retire this season or in the next few that job will have a ton of suitors but nobody is going to come close to his success.
I also wonder if he knows he has gone as far as he can with OSU.
It would get more than annoying to pretty much know that you are never going to be able to "win it all" after being at the same place for what, 20 years?
Cashing checks is great but he is more than set for life I would imagine. It might get to the point where each new season no longer has that "new car smell" and you look at your schedule (like all coaches and players do) and you go, "okay IF we catch a break or two we can get to 9 wins" and you know all that means is a lame season and a lame bowl game.
I mean, at that point you basically become that dude who is on year 28 at their job...they look around and everyone on their "team" is younger than they are...all the people above them are younger...and you realize you are just sort of stuck.
I have coached teams before where we knew, before the first game, what the best record we could get was going to be...and if you know it will be a shitty record, it makes for a really long ass boring season.
Saban hasn't scheduled a P5 road game in 17 years. Except once...unranked Texas...which they won by 1 point on a controversial call.
Yeah 1 or 2 or 3 Bowl games doesn't determine power rankings. But my Gophers have won 6 straight...still absolutely zero credit from you guys...?
You should post the same whiny, sniveling diatribe a couple hundred more times, and perhaps people will suddenly give a crap.
I disagree, but its all speculation at this point in the season. only late november will reveal who was weak/strong.
Do you realize that Nebraska has the NCAA record for number of bowl game appearances in a row? Nebraska went to bowls from 1969 to 2003.
When Nebraska lost, it was mostly to top ten opponents. Inface it was mostly to top 5 ranked opponents.
Color us unimpressed with 6 "toilet bowl" wins. Which is still better than our post season the last 6 years, but dude, no, we've seen, and look forward to better fireworks.
