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[10Trvln]

Ehhh, Bo put a lot of dudes in the NFL

There were obviously Callahan recruits. Lavonte David was just a special talent, with NFL talent.

There were some surprises. A couple Olinemen that didn’t do much while at NU, but got much better coaching in the NFL. Niles Paul, who was extremely inconsistent while at NU, but somehow managed to stay in the NFL for a while.

 

[timnsun]

Are we really complaining about recruiting in June AGAIN? Every year the handwringing happens in the summer. EVERY. YEAR.

I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

 

[phoenix4nu]

Are we really complaining about recruiting in June AGAIN? Every year the handwringing happens in the summer. EVERY. YEAR.

I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

I get what you’re saying. But with the talent level we’ve had for the past few years, the complaining seems to have been justified.

 

[SuperBigFan]

not in the later years.

Yeah, I really don't know or remember, you might be right.

 

[SuperBigFan]

There were obviously Callahan recruits. Lavonte David was just a special talent, with NFL talent.

There were some surprises. A couple Olinemen that didn’t do much while at NU, but got much better coaching in the NFL. Niles Paul, who was extremely inconsistent while at NU, but somehow managed to stay in the NFL for a while.

Randy Gregory
Larry Asante
Collins just signed a 20 million dollar deal

 

[timnsun]

I get what you’re saying. But with the talent level we’ve had for the past few years, the complaining seems to have been justified.

I just don’t get comparing this situation to LSU or USC and thinking they are remotely similar…

I guess it’s ok to be concerned, but I’m also thinking it’s ok to take a wait and see approach as well. The class isn’t finished by any means.

 

[10Trvln]

Are we really complaining about recruiting in June AGAIN? Every year the handwringing happens in the summer. EVERY. YEAR.

I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

It’s what some Husker “fans” do best. I like to look at the whole picture. I like the ability of Matt Rhule and his staff to develop, a lot better than past coaching staffs we have had.
While known better for development than recruiting, I think we will get to where this staff will pull in more talent as time goes.
With where this program is at, we need to accept goals such as make a freaking bowl game and win against BIG West teams. Which is absolutely doable with better coaching than we have had in a long while. Then everything gets easier.

 

[Dr_Alan_Grant]

Some of these recruits are underwhelming on paper. Few offers, low stars etc...

But are we really expecting Rhule to compete against the elite programs right now for the elite talent? We need to get a clue where we fit in the current world of college football. We have sucked for a long, long time and none of these kids give a fink for what we used to be like in 1995.

Rhule was hired for exactly what he is doing now. Namely, identifying under the radar talent and then developing it. What that means is that our rebuild to being a "good" team might be sooner rather than later, but any hope of us returning to "elite" status is going to take a while. Rhule might be a great coach, but he is not a magician. You only become an elite team with elite talent and that will take a while to lure to Lincoln. Baby steps Dr. Marvin, baby steps.

His strategy here seems sound. Recruit local kids in the old Big 12 footprint, especially from Texas. Kids who actually want to be at Nebraska and who are going to stick around. Not the four star busts out of Florida and California who end up leaving after one year. And Rhule seems to be focusing on speed. Speed baby. Speed kills. Speed is the ticket back to being a really good team. Because speed can make up for a lot of other mistakes.

Some might say, "What is the rush? Why are we taking so many low rated guys so early in the process?" Because our older model of having three guys in our recruiting class well into the end of summer because we are waiting on a bunch of 4 star kids to say "no" to us in September and October, left us desperate and scrambling at the end. I am not saying the Rhule approach is ideal, but it does seem better suited to our actual situation right now. You send out your coaches to scout talent, and you hold camps in Lincoln to do the same. And you ignore the stars and the other offers and you just look at a kid's measurables. And if you like what you see, you offer and don't sit around waiting for that hot shot from Miami to make up his mind.

I always like your takes. They seem genuine, realistic, and optimistic. They happen to align with how I feel usually.

 

[HuskerLLM]

Ehhh, Bo put a lot of dudes in the NFL

He absolutely did...alot were Callahan recruits

That said, Garrison and Barney did not get enough credit with the OL during Bo's tenure IMO

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Brian Kelly took over a 6-7 LSU team in November 2021 and his 2022 recruiting class was Rivals ranked #15 with two 5* and eight 4*. Lincoln Riley took over a 4-8 USC team and while his 2022 class was Rivals #56 because they signed only 11 players, two of them were 5* and three 4*. Just sayin....

I basically agree with your take, but I'm a little underwhelmed with where our recruiting is at with all the contacts in college football this staff has, the energy they are putting forth, and many of the coaches being fresh from pro football. But we'll see.

LSU has had a lot more success than we have over the past ten years and is an SEC school in a warm weather State. USC is in Los Angeles. Both are in recruiting hotbed areas. It never ceases to amaze me how many Nebraskans just do not seem to understand how most people around the nation, especially young people, view Nebraska. Both LSU and USC have recruiting advantages that Nebraska can only dream of. This is precisely why our past 8 years of total bullshit football was so damaging. A place like USC can overcome a long term drought of success owing simply to where it is located. But let a place like Nebraska go into a real slump and it is a recipe for becoming a permanent also ran in today's world of football. We are the new Minnesota. A once mighty power in the middle of dipshitville who has slumped into permanent irrelevance.

This is why the Rhule hire was a move of pure genius from Trev. Because he understood where we are and what we need. He understood that this is going to require a coach who can build an entirely new edifice and program, brick by brick, and that it will take time. Oh sure, we can go 8-4 or even 9-3 rather quickly I think. And, like Iowa, then suffer through a few 6-6 type seasons before scratching our way back to 9-3. But to get back to elite status we need a coach who can really build something special here, just like Devaney/Osborne did in their time.

I think we are looking at a five year project before we are competing again for conference and national titles. Our current roster still has tons of holes in it and lacks quality depth. The defensive and offensive lines are still a huge question mark as far as I am concerned. We are really hurting at the wide receiver position and we do not have a single running back that has that "difference maker" quality about them.

I think the Rhule hire was fantastic. Just what we needed. A program builder. Because right now, Nebraska has not had a true "program" that is consistent over time since 2003.

 

[Huskers123456]

Not gonna lie. Yesterday has me thinking Rhule and staff are the greatest talent evaluators in CFB or they are majorly reaching. The olineman had an offer from NDSU. That tells me we are probably going to start developing lineman again instead of throwing them to the wolves as freshman.

The part that comforts me is it's June so they don't need to reach on offers yet. So they must really like these kids.

 

[RedJensen]

LSU has had a lot more success than we have over the past ten years and is an SEC school in a warm weather State. USC is in Los Angeles. Both are in recruiting hotbed areas. It never ceases to amaze me how many Nebraskans just do not seem to understand how most people around the nation, especially young people, view Nebraska. Both LSU and USC have recruiting advantages that Nebraska can only dream of. This is precisely why our past 8 years of total bullshit football was so damaging. A place like USC can overcome a long term drought of success owing simply to where it is located. But let a place like Nebraska go into a real slump and it is a recipe for becoming a permanent also ran in today's world of football. We are the new Minnesota. A once mighty power in the middle of dipshitville who has slumped into permanent irrelevance.

This is why the Rhule hire was a move of pure genius from Trev. Because he understood where we are and what we need. He understood that this is going to require a coach who can build an entirely new edifice and program, brick by brick, and that it will take time. Oh sure, we can go 8-4 or even 9-3 rather quickly I think. And, like Iowa, then suffer through a few 6-6 type seasons before scratching our way back to 9-3. But to get back to elite status we need a coach who can really build something special here, just like Devaney/Osborne did in their time.

I think we are looking at a five year project before we are competing again for conference and national titles. Our current roster still has tons of holes in it and lacks quality depth. The defensive and offensive lines are still a huge question mark as far as I am concerned. We are really hurting at the wide receiver position and we do not have a single running back that has that "difference maker" quality about them.

I think the Rhule hire was fantastic. Just what we needed. A program builder. Because right now, Nebraska has not had a true "program" that is consistent over time since 2003.