Anyone having luck with Mens hoops seat yourself?

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Got some additional tix at 10 this morning. Ridiculous amount of money to get that high on the list. Meanwhile Joe Huskerfan still has club seats with minimal donation. It is difficult to see the empty seats always be some of the best in the house, while younger donors get locked out even though giving at a higher level. Where is Osborne when you need him, he could simply move the students up in a corner like football and let us get better seats! Haha.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Got some additional tix at 10 this morning. Ridiculous amount of money to get that high on the list. Meanwhile Joe Huskerfan still has club seats with minimal donation. It is difficult to see the empty seats always be some of the best in the house, while younger donors get locked out even though giving at a higher level. Where is Osborne when you need him, he could simply move the students up in a corner like football and let us get better seats! Haha.

Scratch that. Just got a message I was bumped back. This is frustrating. But dealing with the Husker ticket office has been for as long as I can remember. Getting the same answer from anybody there more than once in a row is unheard of!!

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Now I got em.

 

[Aksarben]

I had good luck today when my time came up at 12:01 PM. I moved from section 319 to 220. Next year I hope to move to the right into section 219 which is (like 319) at mid court. No problems with the system at all.

 

[HuskerTimOmaha]

200 and 300 section ticket holders having the opportunity to move seats before 100 section is a crock of shit. To be clear, it's a crock only if you're allowed better seats in the 100's before those of us already in the 100's.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

200 and 300 section ticket holders having the opportunity to move seats before 100 section is a crock of shit. To be clear, it's a crock only if you're allowed better seats in the 100's before those of us already in the 100's.

got 4 more in 119. Right above the tunnel the Huskers comeout of.

 

[Aksarben]

HTO I'm not sure if you're referring to my post above or not but this is my response if you were. The first thing they base selection order on for Select A Seat is your lifetime giving to the University. This is clearly stated in the information about the SAS process. My lifetime giving exceeds 30K I would have been shocked if I didn't get a time slot fairly early on in the first day of the process. There are a lot of people who jumped in when the building went on sale before year one at the much lower donation levels than there were at the Devaney Center, most of those folks have had no lengthy history of donating so their Priority Point levels aren't as high as some folks who've been donating annually for 20 or more years. I'm not a new comer to basketball either as I've had season tickets for 27 of the last 30 years.

 

[HuskerTimOmaha]

It's directed at you and anyone else. Very nice of your lifetime donations, and I respect that completely. What I don't respect is the Athletic Department turning away "younger donors", this is now the 7th time in the last 11 seasons I've offered more money (substantially) for better seats and won't have that opportunity. And I'll bet the same damn people will turn in their tickets the first two weeks of the season and those tickets will go the the general public without a donation. I watched it happen the last 3 years at the Bob and I watched it the first 2 seasons at PBA.

Same shit with football a few years back and it's a reason I decided to build the Corn Crib (man cave). Got on the list for a specific area, didn't get tickets the first go around then recieved a call in August with availability in the next section over (phenomenal seats)...

Best part about it, the donation required was half the required amount. It's a systematic problem with our Athletic Department. Way too many people not paying a damn thing while others are willing to pony up. And in the arms race we're in now-a-days, something will eventually have to change or get adjusted.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

HTO I'm not sure if you're referring to my post above or not but this is my response if you were. The first thing they base selection order on for Select A Seat is your lifetime giving to the University. This is clearly stated in the information about the SAS process. My lifetime giving exceeds 30K I would have been shocked if I didn't get a time slot fairly early on in the first day of the process. There are a lot of people who jumped in when the building went on sale before year one at the much lower donation levels than there were at the Devaney Center, most of those folks have had no lengthy history of donating so their Priority Point levels aren't as high as some folks who've been donating annually for 20 or more years. I'm not a new comer to basketball either as I've had season tickets for 27 of the last 30 years.

Yea I screwed up when I got out because Doc obviously quit trying to get players in here to compete. Should have kept them so I could be in the 100 level for basically nothing. 100 has no pairs left, and 200 looks packed. Glad we have a couple fistfulls for every game now.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

It's directed at you and anyone else. Very nice of your lifetime donations, and I respect that completely. What I don't respect is the Athletic Department turning away "younger donors", this is now the 7th time in the last 11 seasons I've offered more money (substantially) for better seats and won't have that opportunity. And I'll bet the same damn people will turn in their tickets the first two weeks of the season and those tickets will go the the general public without a donation. I watched it happen the last 3 years at the Bob and I watched it the first 2 seasons at PBA.

Same shit with football a few years back and it's a reason I decided to build the Corn Crib (man cave). Got on the list for a specific area, didn't get tickets the first go around then recieved a call in August with availability in the next section over (phenomenal seats)...

Best part about it, the donation required was half the required amount. It's a systematic problem with our Athletic Department. Way too many people not paying a damn thing while others are willing to put the only up. And in the arms race we're in now-a-days, something will eventually have to change or get adjusted.

Yup, it is stupid. We know tons of "senior" ticket holders who don't give crap for their seats. Meanwhile you can donate money way over that, and get spit-on.

 

[Aksarben]

As I stated previously the paperwork that came with the seat relocation process clearly states that lifetime giving is the first criteria for placement in line. I'm sorry you're not 59 years old (and I do not feel anywhere near 59 years old) and haven't had the time to donate for over 20 years and yes I have attended nearly every game played at the Devaney Center, Pinnacle Bank Arena and Memorial Stadium since 1982.

The system they are using for the priority points is the most balanced method there is. I know my two seats in the west stadium for football would take a sizable donation to get enough points to jump to the front of the line to get them if I were to give them up (I was once told by someone in the Development Office that it would take nearly 500 points to get there). So to get those 500 points you would have to have donate nearly $50,000, oh and by the way that becomes your annual baseline donation to keep those seats you cannot drop down the next year to the "minimum required" donation and keep the seats.

The Athletic Department cannot afford (at this point in time anyway) to re-seat the stadium every few years just to placate a few people with ruffled feathers and then alienate an even bigger and likely more significant group of donors. I do agree though that every seat that requires a donation should be charged that donation even if it's the minimum required level to wipe out the non-donors sitting in seats that would be tied to a donation (this is currently the case for new ticket sales, but those who've had tickets for more than 20 years were only required to donate if they had more than four season tickets in football). There will always be people who are giving more or less in every area of that stadium (arena), absolutely nothing is going to be exactly equal unless they just get rid of donations period and that will never happen.

BTW attrition will eventually take care of those who are not donating for their seats, most of those folks are getting on age (over 70 years of age) and they will eventually pass on, and as I said before if they want their tickets to go to someone in their immediate family they'll have to come up with the minimum donation or they will not get the tickets.

The athletic department is in somewhat of a tenuous spot too as each of the past few years they've had to come out and publicly advertise season tickets just to get rid of them. We've gone almost an entire generation since the last national championship title and 14 years since we last played in the national championship game, Nebraska football does not have the same meaning to young people today as it did when I was young. Most kids today have not grown up with their parents, grandparents, uncles and aunts looking forward to and focused on listening to the game on Saturday afternoons in the fall. There are too many other entertainment options (including smartphones), and way too many games on too many channels on TV, that and HD has had a significant effect attendance as well.

 

[Aksarben]

4.6.3...just so you're aware the Huskers come out of the tunnel under section 103, not 119.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

4.6.3...just so you're aware the Huskers come out of the tunnel under section 103, not 119.

Yea I got that mixed up. The 4 additional we got were in 102. Did your confirmation email say anythng about "thank you for upgrading your Husker Womens basketball tickets" I almost had a stroke, but the ticket office confirmed it was a typo mistake by the 3rd party handling the online upgrades.

 

[Aksarben]

Yes it did (say something about women's basketball), and as confirmed by the ticket office that was in error. The follow up e-mail you received should correctly state that you were renewing/moving your men's basketball tickets.

 

[anon_41ic26spm9w6q]

I don't know if it was already made clear in this thread, but the higher priority points only allow you earlier seat selection. If you're locked in at a lower donation level than what's required, you cannot simply move your seats around each year without having to pony up the additional money required to meet the current minimum donation.

Also, a person could decide to make a large donation to up their priority points without locking themselves in at that higher amount each year. So if I wanted to bump my points to 500 in order to get into Aksarben's West Stadium section, I could donate $5k to the Big Red Award Club, or a number of other athletic options, which would give me an additional 150 points for the year. Now if there are seats available I can get them at the minimum donation level.

 

[HuskerTimOmaha]

I can read, and have read the relocation criteria, no need to repeat it in every response. IMO, you're somewhat blind on what's going on and if you dig in to see what I'm talking about, I have a feeling you wouldn't be too pleased.

It is only the most balanced method if one has been *cough* "donating", and I use that term lightly, for a number of years, it's not a balanced method for the next generation or two that are looking to get in the mix. Your two seats in west stadium? I was offered seats on the 40-yard line in west stadium (south side of 50-yard line) for a fraction of the published donation price and yes, that fraction of a donation wouldn't change, we would have been locked in. I also know this as our good friend took advantage of it in 2011 with 35-yard line seats in west stadium (north side of 50-yard line) and he pays a fraction of what the published donation requirement is.

Ruffled feathers? A few people? Not here, far from my point so I'll leave that paragraph alone.

Attrition won't take care of it, this is a problem of the last few years, and immediate future, that will have an impact not only in the near but distant future as well. The "if they want their tickets to go to someone...." isn't reality in all cases, I know as I have a family member with pretty good season tickets and he hasn't paid one cent over the face value of those tickets, directly from the University.

It goes beyond not winning championships, although I will agree that's an important aspect. Besides the asshole of a coach Osborne employed for six years, nobody did a damn thing to correct the season ticket problem Nebraska has. I brought this up a few years back on this very forum and now with expansion, one that wasn't needed at the time and has since been reduced (kudos to Eichorst), its' going to get worse.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

I had good luck today when my time came up at 12:01 PM. I moved from section 319 to 220. Next year I hope to move to the right into section 219 which is (like 319) at mid court. No problems with the system at all.

If you have given all this money for years and years, why were you in the 300s?

 

[Aksarben]

I, like you, dropped my season tickets the last few years of the Sadler era. When I came back though I did not want to increase my donation beyond what I was giving as I felt it was enough so I went to the 300 level. By the time PBA opened they had started to separate the donations out by sport (this was not the case when I started donating) and since most of the time it's just me attending leaving an empty seat that I use as my coat rack I didn't want to pay an additional donation plus $300 or so dollars for that seat just to use as a coat rack. After two years I'm a little tired of climbing up into the 300 level so I decided that I would try to get down to the 200 level where it's a few steps down to my row of seats.

 

[HuskerTimOmaha]

When I came back though I did not want to increase my donation beyond what I was giving as I felt it was enough so I went to the 300 level. By the time PBA opened they had started to separate the donations out by sport (this was not the case when I started donating) and since most of the time it's just me attending leaving an empty seat that I use as my coat rack I didn't want to pay an additional donation plus $300 or so dollars for that seat just to use as a coat rack. After two years I'm a little tired of climbing up into the 300 level so I decided that I would try to get down to the 200 level where it's a few steps down to my row of seats.

^^ More reason to support my claim, change is needed.

 

[Aksarben]

Not likely going to happen anytime soon, so I'd probably just give up on the idea. In exchange I'm going to give up on this conversation as it's going nowhere fast.

 

[HuskerTimOmaha]

It's been discussed, quite a bit the last few years, so be careful with any guaranteed statement. Shouldn't be a reason to give up, it's a concern that shouldn't be taken too lightly, especially since expansion. And without knowing it, you stated some reasons to support my stance.

I understand your point/stance, just not something I agree with based on the number of people not donating and what's going to happen when they're gone. When you turn away people, and I'll remind you people that are willing to pony up, when the time comes they're not going to drop everything and pony up. I know because I'm one of them, as well as quite a few close friends that have chosen the same thing.

Also, you had your chance a couple years ago for good seats at PBA. You chose the 300 section. I ponied up for the 100 section although we didn't use all 3 seats every game, I made the commitment to the University and stuck with it. I should be rewarded for that, you shouldn't be based on what you've given over a 30+ year period. You had your chance, and passed.

 

[Aksarben]

OK for the last time - I did not, nor have I, complained about not being in 100 level. It has never been my objective be down there (in the 100 level). I was fine in 319, and I'll be just fine in 220. So I don't know quite where you're coming from with the "you had your chance" statement.

 

[HuskerTimOmaha]

Never said you did...

You had your chance = selecting any section better than 300 when you first got tickets. The first ones to upgrade should be the ones in their current section looking for better seats. Period, end of discussion.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

Never said you did...

You had your chance = selecting any section better than 300 when you first got tickets. The first ones to upgrade should be the ones in their current section looking for better seats. Period, end of discussion.

What about the people in the 100 level who do not donate, or not as much as someone who is donating substantially more? I could be confused, but I think the main issue with hoops and football are all the "old money" who don't donate even close to the level the "new money" is willing to.

 

[Aksarben]

4.6.3 - The issue, I think, is that some folks think that as the required donation level increases so too should everyone's donation. For example if I donate $500 per seat for my west stadium seats and the minimum donation level increases to $750 the following season then I should also be forced to increase my donation to $750 per seat. This would be fine I guess except that what I think would most likely happen then is the ticket office would be dealing with significant turnover every season and eventually people will just throw their hands up and say "the heck with this" because they will feel that they are being nickel and dime to death.

The system currently sets your baseline donation as whatever you donate to acquire the seats. As I said above, nothing EVER will be equal or "fair" in everyone's eyes or for anyone regardless of the issue in this lifetime.

 

[anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi]

4.6.3 - The issue, I think, is that some folks think that as the required donation level increases so too should everyone's donation. For example if I donate $500 per seat for my west stadium seats and the minimum donation level increases to $750 the following season then I should also be forced to increase my donation to $750 per seat. This would be fine I guess except that what I think would most likely happen then is the ticket office would be dealing with significant turnover every season and eventually people will just throw their hands up and say "the heck with this" because they will feel that they are being nickel and dime to death.

The system currently sets your baseline donation as whatever you donate to acquire the seats. As I said above, nothing EVER will be equal or "fair" in everyone's eyes or for anyone regardless of the issue in this lifetime.

Then they should be moved to the section that is consistent with the donation level they are comfortable with, especially if there is younger money that would pay that level. To think differently is just bad business. Nobody should get upset to pay what the market will bear if those seats actually mean something to them.

 

[HuskerTimOmaha]

What about the people in the 100 level who do not donate, or not as much as someone who is donating substantially more? I could be confused, but I think the main issue with hoops and football are all the "old money" who don't donate even close to the level the "new money" is willing to.

Lose their seats to a different section. I don't think you're confused at all, that's exactly my point. The athletic department is missing out on opportunity and soon enough, they'll be kicking themselves in the ass because of it.

4.6.3 - The issue, I think, is that some folks think that as the required donation level increases so too should everyone's donation. For example if I donate $500 per seat for my west stadium seats and the minimum donation level increases to $750 the following season then I should also be forced to increase my donation to $750 per seat. This would be fine I guess except that what I think would most likely happen then is the ticket office would be dealing with significant turnover every season and eventually people will just throw their hands up and say "the heck with this" because they will feel that they are being nickel and dime to death.

The system currently sets your baseline donation as whatever you donate to acquire the seats. As I said above, nothing EVER will be equal or "fair" in everyone's eyes or for anyone regardless of the issue in this lifetime.

Significant turnover? Turnover sure but I doubt it's significant.

(Example only)
Send out a notice 2 full years in advance that donation requirements are going to change and one must pay the exact amount of said donation to keep their seats. Those donations are locked in for 8 years but will be re-evaluated after year 6 (in case another notice needs to go out, this gives another 2-year heads up). If that means your west stadium seats donation requirement are going up $250/seat, then guess what? Yep, you will have to pay that to keep your seats. Or, and I wouldn't have a problem with it; set a fixed rate that you're covered for the first 2 years but after that, you'll have to pay more to keep your seats. That's a 4-year grace period (2 year notice plus 2 years grandfathered). There's no nickel and dime action going on, that's real life stuff.

For the most part, everything we purchase costs more now than it did 10, 20, 30 years ago. Except, at least one thing, donations to be a Nebraska football season ticket holder.

P.S.
And we haven't even touched the hundreds or thousands of people sitting in Memorial Stadium that have beat the system over the years.