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any way we could get charlie strong on staff next year?

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looking at ut's up coming games, he could have a rough go..but he's probably a great recruiter and coach.
so why wouldn't you offer him a position on staff early? he could be like a john blake, only like honest.
 
He wouldn't take the position as it would be a step back on several levels.
HC to DC wouldn't be likely for him because of his natural recruiting area and non familiarity with the B1G.

I don't know if he gets fired or not, more likely than not right now. See him going back southeast of things don't work at UT.
 
"He's probably a great recruiter and coach". You want to scoop him up and you aren't even sure he's a great recruiter and/or coach?.?
 
He's had a taste of Florida and Texas talent rich recruiting area's. I doubt he would consider going to a place vastly different in that regard, he would have other opportunities that would seem like an easier job, on paper at least. I'm pretty much of the opinion that most, if not all coaches who have options, are not going to take a step back in that area. Now, if he has no other options, then sure it could be a possibility, but he would have other options I would think.
 
Uh...if he didn't once coach at Oregon St. then the current staff won't want him. #NebraskaBeavers
 
He's a damn good DC, he was at Florida but other than that I'm not sure of..
Texas just gave up 45 to Cal and Texas has talent. Their defense is terrible. IMO, his rep as a defensive mind is over blown and he sure as hell has made an even bigger mess of Texas than it already was. No thanks.
 
Texas just gave up 45 to Cal and Texas has talent. Their defense is terrible. IMO, his rep as a defensive mind is over blown and he sure as hell has made an even bigger mess of Texas than it already was. No thanks.

Well Louisville and Florida were both pretty stout on D. Charlie can coach D. It's not happening anyway, but I would definitely take him over Banker.
 
Well Louisville and Florida were both pretty stout on D. Charlie can coach D. It's not happening anyway, but I would definitely take him over Banker.
In both cases he had defenses loaded with Florida kids. At Louisville he played a pretty weak schedule and had a QB and offense that could control the clock and hold the ball. After what I've seen at Texas, no thanks, I'll take the chemistry we have with Banker and this new staff any day. I like the guy we have and Riley is himself a defensive guy in spite of his rep as an offensive mind. Riley likes what Banker brings the table and I trust Riley. IMO, the addition of Hughes and Stewart to our staff are WAY under-appreciated by our fans.
 
looking at ut's up coming games, he could have a rough go..but he's probably a great recruiter and coach.
so why wouldn't you offer him a position on staff early? he could be like a john blake, only like honest.

3 games in and we want a new staff.
 
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In both cases he had defenses loaded with Florida kids. At Louisville he played a pretty weak schedule and had a QB and offense that could control the clock and hold the ball. After what I've seen at Texas, no thanks, I'll take the chemistry we have with Banker and this new staff any day. I like the guy we have and Riley is himself a defensive guy in spite of his rep as an offensive mind. Riley likes what Banker brings the table and I trust Riley. IMO, the addition of Hughes and Stewart to our staff are WAY under-appreciated by our fans.

I'm fully on board with Riley, but Charlie is much better than Banker and there is no argument. Also half of those kids at Florida he recruited and although an easy schedule he won. We have had some pretty easy schedules at NU and didn't win. Don't care to hash any further because it isn't happening anyway.
 
Texas isn't firing him this year unless he gets caught on film killing a hooker.
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I'm fully on board with Riley, but Charlie is much better than Banker and there is no argument. Also half of those kids at Florida he recruited and although an easy schedule he won. We have had some pretty easy schedules at NU and didn't win. Don't care to hash any further because it isn't happening anyway.
This isn't the first time you've pumped Charlie on here and it isn't productive for our program to have people criticizing our current DC and proposing bringing someone else on here 3 games in to the season. Picking Joe Blow out of the sky and inserting him on a staff because he was good somewhere else doesn't work. It has to be a cohesive staff that can work together and Charlie doesn't impress me as a guy that is easy to get along with.
 
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WTF are you talking about? I've talked about Charlie on here because he is in the news this week. I'm fully on board with Riley and am optimistic moving forward. Like I said it isn't happening. It's message board talk.
 
He has made the changes both in coaches and in quarterback that will turn Texas around. I look for them to have a very good year from here on out. Just hope we don't get them in a bowl. That new qb would torch us.
 
I just want to see good football. Not seeing anything different than last year.

Not talkin about wins and losses.....talkin about the things the coaches can control.

It may be the players attitudes as well, IDK.
 
looking at ut's up coming games, he could have a rough go..but he's probably a great recruiter and coach.
so why wouldn't you offer him a position on staff early? he could be like a john blake, only like honest.

Yes, this sounds like a realistic plan..
 
I didn't mean anything bad about our current coaching. Im just thinking this strong maybe a recruiting magnet. ut booted their oc I think after 1 game this year. thus they don't seem to cut a lot of slack. and with tcu baylor and a&m doing well, they don't seem to have a lot of time to get it together. so if strong does get the boot it would be wise to go ahead and see if we could land him, perhaps a d-line coach?
he could get us some suhs and neil smiths. which in my estimation could get us some qb hurries and out of the basement on pass defense.
 
Texas just gave up 45 to Cal and Texas has talent. Their defense is terrible. IMO, his rep as a defensive mind is over blown and he sure as hell has made an even bigger mess of Texas than it already was. No thanks.

There is a big difference between being a DC and having that to focus on and being a head coach with an entire football program to manage.
 
I just want to see good football. Not seeing anything different than last year.

Not talkin about wins and losses.....talkin about the things the coaches can control.

It may be the players attitudes as well, IDK.

I respect your opinion Jeans, so I'll ask you: Don't you feel we played pretty good football in the 2nd half of these first 3 games? OT & Final plays excluded of course.
 
There is a big difference between being a DC and having that to focus on and being a head coach with an entire football program to manage.
Ultimately the head coach, especially when he is a former DC, is responsible for his defense's performance. At Louisville, their defense was often not very good and I watched a lot of their games due to the Watson and Teddy Bridgewater factors. Now at Texas, Strong's defense is TERRIBLE. Not just bad. TERRIBLE. IMO, Strong, is just another guy that had his rep built by having extremely good talent at an early stop in his career that hasn't proven it since. He may very well turn it around at Texas but I still think its foolish to go on message boards pining for his addition to our staff. Wouldn't happen even if he were available.
 
There is a big difference between being a DC and having that to focus on and being a head coach with an entire football program to manage.

Well not so fast. Bo Bo was the HC and he was also in charge of the D, and in his 2nd year at NU (which is the same as CS) we had the number 1 D in the country.

Pete Carroll was the HC and the DC at USC, and they had some very good defenses while he was there and yes he was the DC> Lots of other examples that I wont get in to.

Charlie Strong is a hugely overrated HC at this point in time, and I suspect he was probably a hugely overrated DC as well based on the leagues he played (Slow and GO SEC) and Lower level Louisville....Playing in a league like the B12 that scores a bit has exposed Strong as maybe a smoke and mirrors type of DC (just like BO was ultimately), Texas is 118th in total D right now..which is not good especially when you are talking about all the talent he inherited when he arrived.

Harbaugh has turned Michigan (which had brought in talented classes prior to his arrival) into a top 10 total D so far this year in his first year.
 
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