Fer the love of God, just stop.
Any Teddy P updates?
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Having replaced Piper/Hixson at LG with Nouili has helped, but Corcoran really struggled at LT and improved on the move to RT, and Benhart was a close 2nd for worse OL we had, we now go back to the original version.
Which wasn't worth a dang.
Overall, over the course of a game, I think it costs NU maybe as much as 2 tds of offense. I don't look forward to OSU, WI, IA all with good to real good defenses. I think NU loses at least 2 of 3, and maybe all 3.
I really think this program is snakebit. Seems like bad karma.
As a tandem, I think Corcoran at LT and Benhart at RT is about as poor as it gets in Division 1. One or the other, or both are capable of being beaten on a play and sacking AM. That version of the OL has already proven that unless NU is playing Ford, Buff or NW that it won't move the ball effectively on the ground.
You'll call me crazy, but the only way NU salvages this OL is by..... moving Cam. The other bizarre idea is to return Corcoran to his much better RT spot, and maybe try Benhart at LT. I know, its a reach. But, they both were really bad at their original positions. At least RT fit Corcoran better.
I've said all along, and I know this will never happen, but if we move Hixson to C, and then Corcoran to RT and give Cam a try at LT, we "might" have a chance. Having Cam move is a giant long shot, but, he's such a good athlete with such good feet, he might be a better LT than Corcoran right off the bat.
At the end of the day, with Teddy out, this OL is in really big trouble. Enough things could go wrong against a crappy MN or Purdue team for this team to get upset. And that would be a disaster before that stretch of OSU, Wiscy, IA. I could actually see NU finish 4-8 again.
At that point, I don't know if SF would be returning. But, I'm just putting myself out there again for thinking outside the box.
Lol.
“I wasn’t bullying you, it’s how I am by nature with idiots like you.”
Can’t make this stuff up.
Lol, then you don’t know that his post was for you. Too much entertainment value if I put him on ignore.
I've been hoping you'd put me on ignore for years. Sadly it still hasn't happened.
What can I say? Your posts are always entertaining and never cease to amaze me.
Snakebit? Naw.
Teddy P should have probably never been in that game trying to block that monster DE from Mich in the first place. That is just too tough of an ask. If we had a competent Oline coach, we would have had adequate backups, or other online guys by yr 4, so that a true Frosh was not having to go up against Hutchinson..
There is a reason u don't find many true frosh starting on top 25 teams on the oline..cuz they need that RS yr at least.. And more S&C time to really be prepared for that position and be strong enough to play at a high level.
In fact if you look at the top 25 only two teams have true Frosh starting on the O line and in both cases it is due to injuries to guys ahead of them. ATM and Iowa. Which was not the same case with us. Those teams were forced to start Frosh due to injuries..we were forced to start a frosh becuz our Oline coach couldnt adequately develop older guys ahead of them...kind of a big difference if you think about it..
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It really wasn't even while engaged with the other player.
If the brace cant protect from being injured while planting, and pushing off, what are they really good for?
Waiting for our resident brain trust to light up this thread....
Losing Prochazka will hurt, of course, but the ray of sunshine could be the nearly 300 yards and 29 points the offense produced in the second half without him.
And Benhart's grade by PFF was the highest of all offensive linemen against Michigan. Corcoran's grade, however, was awful.
And Benhart's grade by PFF was the highest of all offensive linemen against Michigan. Corcoran's grade, however, was awful.
That original line was in the second half when we scored 29 points against Michigan, so the doom and gloom might be a little over stated. Benhart looked much improved, but Corcoran struggled big time, especially when he moved over to LT. I really wonder about Ezra Miller at LT. They also have practiced Nouili there and Bando is back and has some experience.
That article says it is rare to see an athlete back on the field in less than 9 months. However, the article is over a decade old, so I wonder if recovery times have improved since then. Either way, a crushing blow for him and for us.
For somebody with his frame I don't see any way he would be back in much less than 9 months. I would guess he could be working out by spring ball and maybe getting some mental reps but I don't see him being a full go by spring football.
Every college line other than maybe Bama's has weak spots. We've got to get Adrian to make quicker decisions in the pocket. At least one of the sacks we gave up against Michigan was just a coverage sack where he held the ball too long. Asking our O ilne to sustain blocks for 4 seconds is just too long against good college D linemen like Michigan had. It needs to be one thousand one, one thousand two, one thousand 3 and the ball had better be gone OR you take off and run. He's got to have better pocket awareness. I LOVED most of what our offense did in that second half. Very fun to watch other than those last 2 possessions...
Yeah its just too bad our HC basically went Into an offensive shell inexplicably in the 1st half and basically did nothing except make a stupid 4th down call instead of taking the 3 pts..
Like I said, Corcoran and Benhart, one or the other or both are capable of being beaten on any play. I don't care who plays where, but I have virtually no confidence in either player. Miller or Bando should be given a chance.
Dang that sucks. I might say the extra year won't matter because I could see him being a high draft pick junior year if he stays healthy.
The reason for the offensive output in the second half had more to do with changing the game plan and opening it up, more than who was manning those positions.
This was primarily the same group that couldn't do shit on the ground against either Illinois or Oklahoma. Leads me to the next question? Why was the offense not opened up for those teams that may have worked with the same subpar OL players?
And if opening up the offense like in the 2nd half, why has it taken over 3.5 years to make it happen against a really good defense?
If SF continues to open it up, then NU has a chance to really roll in a couple of games even if Corcoran and Benhart are at OT's.
It's almost, as someone on here said a week or two ago, that SF has been sandbagging. Don't know if it's true or not, but once his job was possibly on the line, then all the wrinkles began to unfold.
Too bad NU had that less than capable Moos in control for 3 years. Had SF had Trev as the AD from Day 1, I imagine this program and its progress would have been greatly improved.
I said, on this board, maybe 2-3 weeks ago that Trev being name AD may be one of the primary reasons SF could become a really good coach.
I think SF has to be monitored, he has to know there are potential consequences if the team doesn't show improvement. He has to quit being one of the boys, and lead this team as should be expected.
If he shows a lot of improvement, I don't care what anyone says, Trev provided the wake up call to Frost and at some point in the future, that reality will dawn on Frost. Everyone could win as a result, the program, Frost, the fans.
I agree with this 100%. Trev has obviously had a huge impact on Frost. He has laid out clear expectations and made Frost be accountable. You can see in on the field, in press conferences, everywhere. Like you said, Frost is an inexperienced, somewhat immature HC that needs a strong leader as his AD.
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