About TA's comments

[timnsun]

i thought the comments seemed desperate for TA. Especially in light of the other off-field drama that probably ticked Riley and staff off.

Somehow I forgot about the off field stuff... Good point.

 

[barney44]

TA was so bad that he gave us the lead in 9 games on the final drive. What happened after that?

Sadly we've lived and died by TA. That doesn't mean I'm on board with this coaching staff, never really did like the hire and I feel that in three years the majority of this board will be joining the crowd who blames them. I hope I'm wrong on that but I cant blame them for everything when other factors played a role. I'm not going to come on here and start coming up with player rifts, etc. to make excuses for them but something like a stream of injuries would hurt anyone.

 

[cubsker]

Watched most of the Georgia bowl win. Tommy looked better in that game than he did almost any time this year.

 

[barney44]

Watched most of the Georgia bowl win. Tommy looked better in that game than he did almost any time this year.

He was better fit for that style of offense..

 

[TheNewNU]

TA sees the writing on the wall, with POB coming in and possibly Kyle Allen he obviously knows that he is going to have to step up his game because he will be competing against quarterbacks that aren't running backs that throw and walk ons from bumblef*ck Nebraska. If TA doesn't improve drastically he will probably be spending his senior year on clipboard duty.

 

[dinglefritz]

He was better fit for that style of offense..

That is true but overall his passing numbers are almost exactly the same in this offense as they were in that one. He made the same mistakes as he still does. The supposed conflict between DL and TA at the end of the year IMO was real. It had to turn DL's stomach to watch him make those decisions in the passing game at the end of the year. A guy like Brook Berringer would have been a star in DL's offense. Gdowski, Gill, Taylor, Tagge, Humm, Van Brownson, etc all those guys would have thrived IMO in this offense.

 

[Husker Todd]

Please the coaches sold out TA and the entire program when they said they were going to play to their players strengths. Was that a lie?

These coaches are a joke. what film, were they looking at when they saw TA play the past few years. To have him throwing as much as they did this year.

Any coach worth a salt chooses victories over their system.

30 years of experience at 500 gets you 500. No matter the players.

I already addressed this with another poster on another thread. Stop with the lie, the coaches did not say they would taylor the offense to Tommy's strengths. They said they would install some plays geared to his strengths, while still installing their system.

Damn it, I thought the tools button was similar to the like button. So I could click on it to indicate that I thought this poster was a tool. Oh well.

 

[redwine65]

I'm thinking riley isn't going to build his offense on armstrong's talent (running). riley is probably looking down the road and figuring it's probably better for him to get the team familiar with his system, then when a qb comes along who can run it (pass). then rest of the offense will be solid, and know his offense like the back of their hand.

I think bo got armstrong to build a running type offense, but it was too little to late.
and armstrong just got caught between two systems.

I think riley gets 3 seasons min. but he best get a qb to run his system. because if we have 2 more dumpster fire seasons, the natives will be restless.

 

[jteten]

TA is QB1 going into next season.......by a wide margin. Best get used to the idea.

 

[Hoosker Du]

Please the coaches sold out TA and the entire program when they said they were going to play to their players strengths. Was that a lie?

These coaches are a joke. what film, were they looking at when they saw TA play the past few years. To have him throwing as much as they did this year.

Any coach worth a salt chooses victories over their system.

30 years of experience at 500 gets you 500. No matter the players.

As sad as this is to say, he was probably our best option, because it tried to get the ball in the hands of our best playmakers, our receivers. We had a below average RB squad, and an equally below average OLine. At least for the first 2/3 of the season. We all saw this with our own eyes, and from the viewpoint of Boyd E., it all makes sense now.

What concerns me more than anything is that as two pretty good QB coaches, neither Riley nor Langsdorf could get our starting QB to reel it in and play within himself. It tells me that there is little hope that Tommie will ever be anything other than a big-play erratic turnover machine, and not simply a game manager.

Treat him like a freshman? How about asking of yourself to act like a redshirt senior, and take responsibility of knowing how to manage a game the way a redshirt senior would. That includes not having to hit for the fences every time you get in a little bit of trouble.

 

[NikkiSixx]

I already addressed this with another poster on another thread. Stop with the lie, the coaches did not say they would taylor the offense to Tommy's strengths. They said they would install some plays geared to his strengths, while still installing their system.

Damn it, I thought the tools button was similar to the like button. So I could click on it to indicate that I thought this poster was a tool. Oh well.

This is what Riley said.
Source: http://www.omaha.com/huskers/blogs/...cle_f3257656-7cad-11e4-a740-abde494337de.html

"We certainly have to establish an identity and the identity has to be a blend of a system of what the players are comfortable with and good at. I think that’s coaching. You take your talent and you make sure it’s the right fit for the system. Then you adapt that system as best you can to the team. And of course the quarterback is probably the No. 1 place to look at that."

 

[Lincoln100]

Up to this point, I have tried to stay optimistic about TA. He's got some skills, and we kept hearing what a great leader he is and has been. Don't know about that. My optimism for him is gone. I hope I'm wrong about him, because I can't stomach watching a similar performance next year. I am really hoping for a festivus miracle; that we get a stud juco transfer out of the blue and / or PO comes in ready to start.

 

[Tulsa Tom]

That is true but overall his passing numbers are almost exactly the same in this offense as they were in that one. He made the same mistakes as he still does. The supposed conflict between DL and TA at the end of the year IMO was real. It had to turn DL's stomach to watch him make those decisions in the passing game at the end of the year. A guy like Brook Berringer would have been a star in DL's offense. Gdowski, Gill, Taylor, Tagge, Humm, Van Brownson, etc all those guys would have thrived IMO in this offense.

Maybe Humm, Van Brownson, and Berringer...and certainly Ferragamo. But I don't think Gdowski, Gill, and Taylor would have thrived. They needed to have the ball in their hands out on the edge far more frequently than DL would have let them. Those three guys and DL would be like oil and water.

 

[Tuco Ramirez]

I'm thinking riley isn't going to build his offense on armstrong's talent (running). riley is probably looking down the road and figuring it's probably better for him to get the team familiar with his system, then when a qb comes along who can run it (pass). then rest of the offense will be solid, and know his offense like the back of their hand.

I think bo got armstrong to build a running type offense, but it was too little to late.
and armstrong just got caught between two systems.

I think riley gets 3 seasons min. but he best get a qb to run his system. because if we have 2 more dumpster fire seasons, the natives will be restless.

I agree that Riley isn't going to completely revise his system to account for Armstrong. He needs to get the rest of the team on board with the system and showcase it for recruits.

I think Bo loved the mobile quarterbacks and probably pushed them with Beck, but I think Beck looked at Armstrong as a good possibility for his offense. I could see looking at Armstrong in high school and seeing all the raw material to run a good spread/run offense, similar to what Oregon runs. He has the arm strength. He has a quick release. He is always a threat to run. Unfortunately he never developed the touch on the short pass for high percentage passes needed in Beck's offense and his form is inconsistent enough that some passes are really off the mark. Still, I would say he's probably a middle of the pack guy for Beck's system. Probably the biggest thing he struggled with was miscommunication with the receivers on what route the should run based on how they were being defended. It's hard to say if that was all on him, the receiver, or the system.

I know I'm in the minority here, but I don't think he's a much worse fit for DL's system. He can throw a good long ball, and DL seems to love the long ball. I know folks think that Armstrong always decides to "swing for the fences," but I think that is part of Riley's/DL's system. I think that mentality is part of the character of the Riley's team that gives them the chance to upset much better teams, but makes them vulnerable to losing to much worse teams. Armstrong could still use better touch on screens and I think his lack of height is an issue for standing in the pocket and taking the crossing routes. But he doesn't run into near the number of route selection mishaps he did in Beck's offense.

It would have been interesting to see what he could have done in Osborne's system. Run, run, run, and then pull it back and chuck it into single coverage.

 

[Shaw$hank]

Wait so we have to give Riley time to change everything and install a new system. But TA is suppose to show immediate improvement and make no mistakes. He gets no grace period to adjust. Got it.

This board is something special.

TA kept making the same mistakes over and over again. What is the definition of insanity? I am sure the coach did not tell him to throw off his back foot so he could be a more accurate thrower.

 

[Husker Todd]

This is what Riley said.

"We certainly have to establish an identity and the identity has to be a blend of a system of what the players are comfortable with and good at. I think that’s coaching. You take your talent and you make sure it’s the right fit for the system. Then you adapt that system as best you can to the team. And of course the quarterback is probably the No. 1 place to look at that."

Blend:
NOUN

1. a mixture of different things or qualities:

Now that we have established the definition of the word blend. He would have come out in the presser and said, we are going to have to learn Tim Beck's entire offense so that Tommy feels comfortable. But he didn't, he said blend because they blended their system with something's Tommy was comfortable with.

Now this brings me to another point. Things TA is good at, not much in my opinion we still threw the ball in the old system. And the zone read, I can't tell you how many times I would get pissed off watching TA make the wrong read.

Now I know there are other lines you could go and highlight in here, let me stop you right there. Don't bother, hearing the words coming out of a persons mouth these days is a lost art. I highlighted a phrase, after this phrase nothing else matters, he has told you what he is going to do. Everything after this is filler, fluff.

 

[redwine65]

I agree that Riley isn't going to completely revise his system to account for Armstrong. He needs to get the rest of the team on board with the system and showcase it for recruits.

I think Bo loved the mobile quarterbacks and probably pushed them with Beck, but I think Beck looked at Armstrong as a good possibility for his offense. I could see looking at Armstrong in high school and seeing all the raw material to run a good spread/run offense, similar to what Oregon runs. He has the arm strength. He has a quick release. He is always a threat to run. Unfortunately he never developed the touch on the short pass for high percentage passes needed in Beck's offense and his form is inconsistent enough that some passes are really off the mark. Still, I would say he's probably a middle of the pack guy for Beck's system. Probably the biggest thing he struggled with was miscommunication with the receivers on what route the should run based on how they were being defended. It's hard to say if that was all on him, the receiver, or the system.

I know I'm in the minority here, but I don't think he's a much worse fit for DL's system. He can throw a good long ball, and DL seems to love the long ball. I know folks think that Armstrong always decides to "swing for the fences," but I think that is part of Riley's/DL's system. I think that mentality is part of the character of the Riley's team that gives them the chance to upset much better teams, but makes them vulnerable to losing to much worse teams. Armstrong could still use better touch on screens and I think his lack of height is an issue for standing in the pocket and taking the crossing routes. But he doesn't run into near the number of route selection mishaps he did in Beck's offense.

It would have been interesting to see what he could have done in Osborne's system. Run, run, run, and then pull it back and chuck it into single coverage.

I agree, it would be interesting to see Armstrong running a offense like frazier or gill.
gill was a master at pitching the ball right on time...
when I watch Armstrong out juke d-linemen..I'm pretty impressed with his moves.
it seems though with Armstrong, like Martinez, once you start running them and banging them up, they lose whatever touch they have passing..a mental thing..

 

[huskerj12]

I swear, the fans have spotted more botched zone reads than anyone since they started popping up in our offense.

 

[dinglefritz]

Maybe Humm, Van Brownson, and Berringer...and certainly Ferragamo. But I don't think Gdowski, Gill, and Taylor would have thrived. They needed to have the ball in their hands out on the edge far more frequently than DL would have let them. Those three guys and DL would be like oil and water.

Gdowski, Gill and Taylor were all good passers and good decision makers in the passing game. In fact, Gill and Taylor both ran pro passing offenses in the CFL.

 

[NikkiSixx]

Blend:
NOUN

1. a mixture of different things or qualities:

Now that we have established the definition of the word blend. He would have come out in the presser and said, we are going to have to learn Tim Beck's entire offense so that Tommy feels comfortable. But he didn't, he said blend because they blended their system with something's Tommy was comfortable with.

Now this brings me to another point. Things TA is good at, not much in my opinion we still threw the ball in the old system. And the zone read, I can't tell you how many times I would get pissed off watching TA make the wrong read.

Now I know there are other lines you could go and highlight in here, let me stop you right there. Don't bother, hearing the words coming out of a persons mouth these days is a lost art. I highlighted a phrase, after this phrase nothing else matters, he has told you what he is going to do. Everything after this is filler, fluff.

My post only shows what Mike really said.

First it was your "intelligent discussion" post, and now about "filler, fluff". Seems you like to contradict yourself in the same post, or it's becoming a pattern.