2017 Style of Offense

[TwinsRRUs]

From an article about Rafdal:

"They talked a lot about the offense,” Jim Rafdal said. Langsdorf showed Kurt plays from Oregon State’s offense, which featured more pass-catching tight ends than Nebraska has in Riley’s first two years. NU will be transitioning to a pro-style offense after spending two seasons in a spread/pro-style hybrid to accommodate the skills of quarterback Tommy Armstrong.

 

[TwinsRRUs]

So now we will see Langs' offense.

So I bet they have been telling all of the offensive recruits this same thing.

So is Riley still going to have Langs push running the ball? (I think yes, but just asking the question)

 

[brianm1202]

The offense we saw Ryker run in the bowl game is closer to what we'll see moving forward, but hopefully with better blocking lol
They've definitely been telling all of the WR croots that we're switching to a pass-oriented offense and have a couple stud pocket QBs. And yes, we'll still run the ball, but Riley and Langs will probably prefer to have these smaller, quicker backs who can also catch the ball out of the backfield, although a true, do-everything big bodied back would be ideal, because you'll still have to pound the rock up the middle occasionally.
I'm guessing the pass-run ratio will look closer to 70-30 from now on.

 

[TwinsRRUs]

I'm guessing the pass-run ratio will look closer to 70-30 from now on.

I am at work on my phone, any idea of what the ratio was for the bowl game with Fyfe?

Someone posted in a thread after Riley was hired, but can someone post OrSU's pass/run numbers from when Riley and Langsdorf were there?

Curious what the ratio was when they has J. Rogers back around 2007 or 2008.

 

[OO Snipes]

70-30? I doubt that. I think Riley Wants to be able to do Both well. 70-30 is Texas tech not pro style

 

[jflores]

I'm not really sure that "pro style" is all that much of a revelation. Technically, Riley has maintained that he's going to run a pro-style offense, but work in some QB run game where he can to fit TA's strengths.

Besides the fact that TA chose to throw YOLO bombs on many pass plays instead of read the progressions, I think Riley is largely telling the truth, we have a pro-style offense now, with a couple QB run plays tacked on. I do expect more pass play calling.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Outside of 2013, when has a Riley/ Langsdorf team had a 70/30 pass/run ratio?

That has never been their MO.

Don't confuse pass first to mean pass exclusive.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

They will throw between 33-38 passes per game and run between 33-38 run plays per game over the course of the year. Sometimes it's 38/33 pass and sometimes it will be reversed.

 

[headcard]

They might be 70/30 in terms of yards gained, but I bet we will be much closer to 50/50 in terms of run plays and pass plays.

 

[NikkiSixx]

Recruiting wise, it's about 90% passing, 10% rushing

 

[TwinsRRUs]

They might be 70/30 in terms of yards gained, but I bet we will be much closer to 50/50 in terms of run plays and pass plays.

200 yards rushing and 475 yards passing

I would be ok with that.

250 rushing vs 425 passing might be better but as long as it leads to points against all teams and defenses, I will be satisfied.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

There will be more WR screens and draws plays. My opinion.

 

[timnsun]

Recruiting wise, it's about 90% passing, 10% rushing

That might be because they like what we have in Bryant, Ozigbo and Wilbon... and with Miles coming in along with Bradley. Just guessing...

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Recruiting wise, it's about 90% passing, 10% rushing

Because you have to offset the 40 years of 90% running 10% passing recruiting.

 

[timnsun]

200 yards rushing and 475 yards passing

I would be ok with that.

250 rushing vs 425 passing might be better but as long as it leads to points against all teams and defenses, I will be satisfied.

I would be ok with that too if we averaged 675 yards of offense per game. That would be awesome.

 

[jflores]

Recruiting wise, it's about 90% passing, 10% rushing

Yah, Davis only needs 1 RB a year

 

[jflores]

There will be more WR screens and draws plays. My opinion.

There definitely should be, considering our wealth of riches with smaller shifty WR.

 

[brianm1202]

I based the 70/30 purely off of talent. We switched to a pocket QB and recruited loads of talented WRs for a reason, and that reason is that they want to air it out. If you factor in RBs catching passes on wheel routes and RB screens, I don't think 70/30 is unheard of, especially if they can get good production when they DO run the ball.

 

[jflores]

I based the 70/30 purely off of talent. We switched to a pocket QB and recruited loads of talented WRs for a reason, and that reason is that they want to air it out. If you factor in RBs catching passes on wheel routes and RB screens, I don't think 70/30 is unheard of, especially if they can get good production when they DO run the ball.

That reason could also be, we lost most of our scholarship receiving corps, besides Stanley and DPE.

We will most assuredly throw it more, we are understaffed at WR though.

 

[brianm1202]

In 2015 (Riley's 1st year), Armstrong threw the ball an average of 31 times per game. I'm betting that number goes over 40 if we develop a legit passing threat

 

[Biscuit01891]

I based the 70/30 purely off of talent. We switched to a pocket QB and recruited loads of talented WRs for a reason, and that reason is that they want to air it out. If you factor in RBs catching passes on wheel routes and RB screens, I don't think 70/30 is unheard of, especially if they can get good production when they DO run the ball.

Holy potato they won't even come close to 70/30 pass run ratio. Texas tech barely reaches a 70/30 pass ratio and they air it out every game.

 

[inWV]

From huskers.com
2015 - rushing attempts=496 (50.5%); passing attempts=485 (49.5%); TA/Fyfe had 105 rushing attempts
2016 - rushing attemps=523 (56.6%); passing attempts=400 (43.5); TA/Fyfe had 129 rushing attempts

If you take the average attempts for both years, a 70% passing attack would equal 666 attempts, an average of 51 attempts per game for a 13 game season. 60% would be 43 passing attempts per season. Texas Tech's starting QB attempted an average of 49 passes per game in 2016.

 

[inWV]

Holy potato they won't even come close to 70/30 pass run ratio. Texas tech barely reaches a 70/30 pass ratio and they air it out every game.

From what I can calculate, TX Tech had a run/pass ratio of 36/64. They did not get to 30/70.

 

[brianm1202]

Holy potato they won't even come close to 70/30 pass run ratio. Texas tech barely reaches a 70/30 pass ratio and they air it out every game.

Texas Tech was 65/35 this year, and that was because their QB ran it 131 times.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Put the shovel down

 

[brianm1202]

Think about it in these simple terms. Is it unreasonable to think that out of every ten plays, 7 are passes and 3 are runs? I don't think that's that unrealistic, especially considering the talent we'll have at WR and QB, and it's not like every pass is going to be a TA YOLO bomb. Besides, I said closer to 70/30. You guys get worked up real easy lol

 

[jflores]

Think about it in these simple terms. Is it unreasonable to think that out of every ten plays, 7 are passes and 3 are runs? I don't think that's that unrealistic, especially considering the talent we'll have at WR and QB, and it's not like every pass is going to be a TA YOLO bomb. Besides, I said closer to 70/30. You guys get worked up real easy lol

You'll have to define *closer to*. The top NFL teams are around 67% passing if I recall. The most pass happy teams in NCAA don't really breach that threshold either.

3% on a scale of 100% isn't a huge big deal, but we aren't working with the whole 100% we're working with the handful of percent (15% tops) from 50-65.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Think about it in these simple terms. Is it unreasonable to think that out of every ten plays, 7 are passes and 3 are runs? I don't think that's that unrealistic, especially considering the talent we'll have at WR and QB, and it's not like every pass is going to be a TA YOLO bomb. Besides, I said closer to 70/30. You guys get worked up real easy lol

But it is unreasonable to think they will throw closer to 70%.


In 2013 Oregon St threw the ball 48 times per game and ran the ball 27 time or about 64% of the time. That was the absolute largest spread in run pass ratio in his Oregon St history.

 

[inWV]

Better be able to run the ball in the B1G if you want to play in the CCG.

 

[inWV]

Put the shovel down

There is no rock bottom if you are willing to use tunneling equipment

 

[brianm1202]

By "closer to 70/30", I really just meant between 65-70% passing, and that was just my guess, nothing definitive about it. Know one actually knows what the actual ration will be because Riley and Langs have arguably never had the talented WR corps they're about to have. If it'll unrustle some jimmies, I'll switch to 60/40 for you RUNDUHDAGGUMBAWL folks

 

[huskerfan1414]

Passing numbers at osu are inflated due to being behind.
No way its clise to 70 30. I dont see it getting to 60 either.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Passing numbers at osu are inflated due to being behind.
No way its clise to 70 30. I dont see it getting to 60 either.

Agreed.

Again it would be naive to believe we won't see more passing but 65-70% would be at minimum 49 pass attempts per game based on 75 plays and 70% would be 53 attempts.

There may well be games that have those numbers but that won't be a season long average.

 

[yort2000]

By "closer to 70/30", I really just meant between 65-70% passing, and that was just my guess, nothing definitive about it. Know one actually knows what the actual ration will be because Riley and Langs have arguably never had the talented WR corps they're about to have. If it'll unrustle some jimmies, I'll switch to 60/40 for you RUNDUHDAGGUMBAWL folks

A 30% pass/70% run ratio would still ruffle the feathers of the run the ball guys.

 

[Blackshirt316]

We have already seen our offense next season. In fact we played against it last season.

What Kevin Wilson ran at Indiana is virtually identical structurally to what we will see here.

 

[TwinsRRUs]

We have already seen our offense next season. In fact we played against it last season.

What Kevin Wilson ran at Indiana is virtually identical structurally to what we will see here.

Hopefully our team has more talent or at least a better QB than Indiana so we aren't stopped by the really good teams, but I guess we will have to wait and see.

I have never paid much attention to their offense, but I think it is mostly known as a good offense that puts points on the board.

I do remember Indiana having some RBs that are great and get a lot of yards, but not sure if they have adjusted their offense since then.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

If you want to see what a Riley offense looks like there are some games online from his Oregon St days, specifically 2007-2010 seasons.

 

[jflores]

If you want to see what a Riley offense looks like there are some games online from his Oregon St days, specifically 2007-2010 seasons.

With Andrew Bunch being added to the QB mix...do you potentially see a package of plays hoping to mix in some QB run game as a change of pace to what Lee will be doing?

That's a guy who will most likely sit except in case of injury, so it seems like the staff might want to get some sort of mileage out of him.

 

[brianm1202]

With Andrew Bunch being added to the QB mix...do you potentially see a package of plays hoping to mix in some QB run game as a change of pace to what Lee will be doing?

That's a guy who will most likely sit except in case of injury, so it seems like the staff might want to get some sort of mileage out of him.

Hopefully we get back to blowing people out so bad that we can play our backups in the second half. Haven't seen that in a while except for a non-con game here and there

 

[nebcountry]

With Andrew Bunch being added to the QB mix...do you potentially see a package of plays hoping to mix in some QB run game as a change of pace to what Lee will be doing?

That's a guy who will most likely sit except in case of injury, so it seems like the staff might want to get some sort of mileage out of him.

No on the mix. I see one qb playing unless injury or we are blowing other teams out. Just a guess, but I would guess slightly more runs than passes this coming season, unless our run game is completely anemic. Bunch is new to the system, barring others injuries, no reason to expect him to play.