Worst Republican president in 50 years IYO

[Cash68847]

As I said earlier,gwb was a horrible President but he certainly didn’t create the financial crisis, just as Trump didn’t create covid.

He did put us into a dumb war that killed and maimed a lot of American kids. He also created more terrorists with his stupid policies.

 

[nelsonj22]

That's still President Trump no matter how you slice it!

Yes,yes it is

 

[Cash68847]

Trump is the worst POTUS ever, and it's not even close.

Obama was incredibly moderate and mild. The irrationally rabid Obama hatred is a symptom of the diseases of racism and/or delusional belief in right wing propaganda. Yes, Obama haters, you have a choice: be identified as a racist or a delusional fool.

He showed his arrogance right away with Obamacare. He also continued a lot of GWB’s policies which made it easy not to like him.

 

[sklarbodds]

Bush was clueless, and surrounded himself with and relied upon neocon rat bastards like Cheney and Rumsfeld. At heart, however, he’s a decent guy. He loves America and he loves democracy. America can survive incompetence.

trump, by contrast, ultimately surrounded himself with nobody but sycophants, he couldn’t give a flying **** about Americans, America, or democracy. He isn’t a decent guy. For whatever reason, his brain is wired to be a sociopathic narcissist incapable of empathy or sincere humility. Whether he actually is a bigoted racist mother****ing white supremacist or played one simply for self promotion, he sowed division galore for personal gain. Divisiveness is poison to democracy. America cannot survive shit like that.

Bush was led into invading Iraq, which, along with Vietnam, was our worst foreign policy disaster ever. That and the disastrous tax cuts and standing by while we fell into the Great Recession will forever stain his legacy.

trump’s relentless attack on fundamental democratic institutions culminating with the Big Lie and 1/6 are worse by far even compared to Iraq and the rest. Toss on top of that his abject and multiple failures in both foreign and domestic policy, far worse than Bush’s or anyone else’s, and it isn’t even close.

We’ve had some shitty presidents through history. Bush is one. But second place to trump ain’t even in the same time zone.

No.

The tax cuts didn't lead to the recession, that was the housing bubble and these lending rules and bundled mortgages. Signed in the 90s by Clinton.

 

[lifer56]

No.

The tax cuts didn't lead to the recession, that was the housing bubble and these lending rules and bundled mortgages. Signed in the 90s by Clinton.

Nope. Did not tie the tax cuts (that in a time of war when kids were dying benefited only the rich and created deficits that made responding to the Great Recession so much more difficult for Obama/Biden) to the housing bubble that did nothing but expand and finally POP under Bush's watch.

Separate catastrophes, and each happened on dubya's watch.

 

[lifer56]

He did put us into a dumb war that killed and maimed a lot of American kids. He also created more terrorists with his stupid policies.

He also created the YUGE deficit that made responding to the Great Depression so much harder and more painful.

 

[1160]

Trumpers and "non rhinos" we all no Osama Obama was the worst President of all time but I'm curious what we believe to be worst republican. IMO Bush Jr would have it on lock.

Where does Trump fall on your list?

 

[sklarbodds]

Nope. Did not tie the tax cuts (that in a time of war when kids were dying benefited only the rich and created deficits that made responding to the Great Recession so much more difficult for Obama/Biden) to the housing bubble that did nothing but expand and finally POP under Bush's watch.

Separate catastrophes, and each happened on dubya's watch.

He also created the YUGE deficit that made responding to the Great Depression so much harder and more painful.

Naw

 

[nelsonj22]

Where does Trump fall on your list?

Answer my question and have a small discussion on the origins of fake news I will gladly answer.

 

[Swarlos]

Bush was clueless, and surrounded himself with and relied upon neocon rat bastards like Cheney and Rumsfeld. At heart, however, he’s a decent guy. He loves America and he loves democracy. America can survive incompetence.

trump, by contrast, ultimately surrounded himself with nobody but sycophants, he couldn’t give a flying **** about Americans, America, or democracy. He isn’t a decent guy. For whatever reason, his brain is wired to be a sociopathic narcissist incapable of empathy or sincere humility. Whether he actually is a bigoted racist mother****ing white supremacist or played one simply for self promotion, he sowed division galore for personal gain. Divisiveness is poison to democracy. America cannot survive shit like that.

Bush was led into invading Iraq, which, along with Vietnam, was our worst foreign policy disaster ever. That and the disastrous tax cuts and standing by while we fell into the Great Recession will forever stain his legacy.

trump’s relentless attack on fundamental democratic institutions culminating with the Big Lie and 1/6 are worse by far even compared to Iraq and the rest. Toss on top of that his abject and multiple failures in both foreign and domestic policy, far worse than Bush’s or anyone else’s, and it isn’t even close.

We’ve had some shitty presidents through history. Bush is one. But second place to trump ain’t even in the same time zone.

i just went from six to midnight

 

[Red_Hack]

Trumpers and "non rhinos" we all no Osama Obama was the worst President of all time but I'm curious what we believe to be worst republican. IMO Bush Jr would have it on lock.

No one comes close to Trump.

People thought no one would make Bush look like a great president. I present Donald Trump.

 

[Cash68847]

He also created the YUGE deficit that made responding to the Great Depression so much harder and more painful.

Policy wise he was worse than Trump.

 

[stevehammer]

He showed his arrogance right away with Obamacare. He also continued a lot of GWB’s policies which made it easy not to like him.

I'm not sure what is arrogant about Obamacare. The name? Because it was dubbed Obamacare by Republicans. Trying to fix our health care system? Getting something done in the face of McConnell's "I will make him a 1 term president" pledge?

Maybe you weren't paying attention in the 2000's, but health care premiums were going up 10% a year it seemed, and something had to be done. Republicans in Congress wouldn't agree to even remotely try anything bipartisan -- even through the concept behind Obamacare was actually a Republican idea, the Romneycare of Massachusettes. So, please explain why it was arrogant to try and fix a completely broken health care system.

 

[sklarbodds]

Because it was dubbed Obamacare by Republicans.

Maybe but:

Obama: You can call it 'Obamacare'

“I like it. I don’t mind,” the president told former NBA star Charles Barkley in an interview.

www.politico.com

 

[whiteshoes97]

He did put us into a dumb war that killed and maimed a lot of American kids. He also created more terrorists with his stupid policies.

And he lied to the world to gain support for it

 

[Cash68847]

I'm not sure what is arrogant about Obamacare. The name? Because it was dubbed Obamacare by Republicans. Trying to fix our health care system? Getting something done in the face of McConnell's "I will make him a 1 term president" pledge?

Maybe you weren't paying attention in the 2000's, but health care premiums were going up 10% a year it seemed, and something had to be done. Republicans in Congress wouldn't agree to even remotely try anything bipartisan -- even through the concept behind Obamacare was actually a Republican idea, the Romneycare of Massachusettes. So, please explain why it was arrogant to try and fix a completely broken health care system.

I know all kinds of people including myself where premiums jumped much more than 10 percent while getting worse coverage. Obamacare ****ed the middle class. People lost their coverage they enjoyed and their rates sky rocketed as insurance companies made more money. Remember elections have consequences. Obama was never a uniter. He was just another shitty President ran by Wall Street and the elites. If you want to say he was a better president than Trump fine, but lets not pretend like he was great.

Here is an article with facts. Rates went up by 50 percent in a lot of cases and your insurance sucked.

Obamacare Is Hurting the Middle Class

www.rpc.senate.gov

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[sklarbodds]

Obamacare ****ed the middle class.

100%

They were by far the biggest losers in the whole bill.