Word is out on the street that Troy Walters

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  1. NorthwoodHusker

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    Haven't follewed them that closely, sounds about right.

    I think near term, low twenties is feasible,and thats why they said it. If we get guys,difference maker types, then who knows, it's been so long.
    We've had respectable offenses, but our defenses haven't been that good since Suh. But he was obviously a difference maker.
     
  2. NorthwoodHusker

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    The LB play was poor,it could be coaching, like,these coaches didn't get alot of square peg types since they may have never had them before, but what they're asking our backers to do? Those players just couldn't do it.

    I think it was you saying wiscy plays a different front,their front is more run aggressive,ours more pass.
    Now,if you aren't getting home to the qb,the strength of your defense if stymied can turn into a major weakness if you don't have those LBs. We didn't,and I'm hoping we do now with those who's been hurt and redshirting,and the jucos and new recruits.
     
  3. oldjar07

    oldjar07 Blackshirt
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    Well that's not happening and apparently not what Frost wants. You can idealize continuity all you want but Frost is putting the program first, and I agree with him.
     
  4. Jhollenbeck41

    Jhollenbeck41 Redshirt Freshman
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    I’ll be honest that post didn’t make a lot of sense going back and reading it, feels like kind of an emotional rant now. I guess the point I was trying to make was our fan base gets irrationally pissed off and wants a LB coach fired who is trying to teach very average LB athletes, to stop an NFL talent RB right in his tracks each time he touches the ball, not realistic. Let me go on record by saying I’m 100% for continuity, but with good coaching. I feel coaches need time to prove themselves, given they are the right fit in the right situation. I’m also 100% behind whatever Frost wants to do for this program.

    All in all, I agree with you
     
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  5. oldjar07

    oldjar07 Blackshirt
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    Your way is the best way to make us Iowa or Minnesota. They're more than happy to keep mediocre coaches around for longer than necessary and it's why they get the results they get.
     
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    Slummin it? Lol I’m here too. Get yore shot of penicillin when you leave.
     
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    headcard Nebraska Legend
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    The way to be great is to get and keep great coaches. Clemson didn’t become a power by keep average coaches they did it by getting and keeping Venables .
     
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    Wasnt built in a day right? Idiot
     
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    My post was sarcastic. The offensive play doesn't have much affect on the defense imo. The defense is what it is, and the stats tell a good story of how good it is. I think people like to make too many excuses for poor defensive performanc. I don't care what type of offense we're running, anything less than a top 30 defense isn't an acceptable standard at Nebraska.
     
  10. NorthwoodHusker

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    True for iowa
    Minny? They have trouble holding onto their HC's on down.
     
  11. NorthwoodHusker

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    So, iowa needs to just stop playing football then? Why the term time of possession? Or field position?
    I'm just saying there's more than just stats too, though I use them alot.

    Like, whats the chances of a defense holding after a turnover by your offense deep in their territory?
    The old term momentum is another not in the stats, yet surely exists.
    A crappy kicking game,coverage team makes the defense look bad, as does three and outs.

    Now, of course our D has been bad, it's improved,but still bad. But our style of play,which hasn't manifested itself as yet, that aggressive style,until it arrives,I can't point it out,though I'd like to, but, I am trying to get ahead of the curve by pointing out to those who think the 90s blackshirts are eventually going to show up.

    Those days are gone, and people may not like this style,I get that, but this style won't produce those 90s blackshirt numbers, but likely will exceed turnovers and potentially sacks.
    So, low twenties is good considering if our offense is as efficient as it can be,as well as explosive.
     
  12. oldjar07

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    Yeah our linebackers were bad. I was just saying we had a lot more problems on our defense besides just linebackers.
     
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    Giving up 25 points a game isn't going to be good enough in the Big 10. That's below average in this league. It's the object of any defense to stop the offense. The fastest and most reliable way to get the ball back is to have a good enough defense where you can force a 3 and out. Yeah turnovers are great but you can't always rely on them.
     
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  14. NorthwoodHusker

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    We get top 5 with our defense, we will be fine
    http://www.cfbstats.com/2019/leader/827/team/defense/split01/category09/sort01.html
     
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    Been a couple days. Any update on Walters. Not reading through everything
     
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    This thread stopped being about Walters after the 1st post pretty much.
     
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    Supposedly we need to wait for next week.
     
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    Here’s a come back for you that will prove us both right lol....those “mediocre” coaches and results helped UCF beat Auburn and Minnesota’s “mediocre” results beat Auburn this year in their bowl game. Oooooorrrrr is Auburn overrated? Probably a common denominator in there somewhere.
     
  19. NorthwoodHusker

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    $EC is mostly overrated. Though, auburn showed better by beating both finalists in the cfb championship when those mediocre coaches beat them.
     
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    can you please explain how the SEC is “mostly overrated”

    they have won 6 of the last 10 national titles

     
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    Take away bama and the sec hasn't been anything special. Bama is great and somehow an entrie conference has rode their coattails.
     
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    Which teams?
    Tell me, does the sec look like the big two most the time?
    I didnt say bama was overrated, and georgia can play some ball.
    Florida hasn't been overpowering since urb left.
    Lsu hasnt been great since saban until now.
    Auburn? Ooops, lets not go there right?
     
  23. oldjar07

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    There's no reason we shouldn't have been vastly improved this last year, but that didn't happen did it. There's not really a guarantee it's going to happen next year.
     
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    What happened to Troy Walters?
     
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    sit back and relax, as brilliantly explained below, the Chiefs winning today proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Nebraska will be back. I have to admit, I had no idea we had so much riding on that game. Thank god that fake punt didn’t work.


     
  26. oldjar07

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    It's the coach's job to instill that killer mentality in the players. Sure a few kids have that mentality on their own, but most kids need to have that type of mentality reinforced by coaches who demand that sort of attitude from their players.
     
  27. Huskers_Rule

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    Recruiting elite talent might be more of a factor.
     
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  28. NorthwoodHusker

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    Ok, lets compare the new this years team to next years team.
    Rbs? Started with two, ended with one.
    Wrs, started with two,Wandale true frosh, ended with three, Warner came back, Noa? Nawa.
    Qb, started healthy? Ended needing surgery.
    O line, Started with three returners and two rooks.
    D line, went 2-3 deep
    LBs, had three to start at ILB, two at OLB, ended with four and four.
    Safeties, started with four, ended with two.
    Dbs, started with three, ended with three.

    This year
    Rbs, starting with three or more
    Wrs, starting with three from last year, seven to help
    Qb, will AM be healthy all season, out the gates?
    O line, it returns, with likely up to two improved replacements,with more depth.
    D line, last years twos take over, plus a few jucos and youngsters
    LBs, numbers speed talent all around, lose two that are very replaceable.
    Safeties, injured come back, three deep
    Dbs, lots of young talent, replacing LJ already in the works.

    So, unless I'm missing a guy, other than the D line, we are deeper with our two LBs and a cb to replace, which all have been targeted for with jucos and youngins.

    Now, since our offense was down to two wrs,one being a rookie, our rbs down to one, our line breKing in two brand spankin new linemen,they had nly played similar to last year at the end if this year without ziggy,the two O linemen grads and Stan.
    So, what you're saying is, it'll never get better than last year?

    Oh, by the way, fifteen of those additional guys are four stars that either haven't played or either redshirted or are jucos. That's two thirds a class.
     
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    Clemson recruits elite talent now, but they became a big time program when they opened up the pocket book and hired Venables as DC and Morris as OC. Before that Dabo and Clemson were very average.
     
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    Reinforcing and instilling are two different things. You can reinforce that but you can’t instill it. You either have it or you don’t. Tom Brady has it, Pat Mahomes has it, Dak Prescott does not. Clayton Kershaw does not. Mariano Rivera does. Derek Jeter does. It’s the way you’re built. You either shit your pants and are scared to fail, or you’re not. Simple as that
     
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    Preciate ya, GA
     
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    Hey mods, thank you for deleting my thread on this last week
     
  33. oldjar07

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    Absolutely, I don't think we have a guy like Venables on the staff right now, but that's what we should be shooting for.
     
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    True enough sir. Kill was a pretty damn good HC who like us now was working hard to turn the mess around.
     
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    Yeah people seem to forget “Clemsoning” was a popular phrase for a long time till Dabo finally won his first title.

    And Clemson wasn’t pulling in elite classes the entire time.
    Clemson class ranks under Dabo:
    2009- 52nd
    2010- 18th
    2011- 8th
    2012- 17th
    2013- 14th
    2014- 13th
    2015- 4th
    2016- 6th
    2017- 22nd
    2018- 8th
    2019- 9th

    Outside of that 2011 8th ranked class, their recruiting didn’t take off till their first playoff appearance, which didn’t happen till they brought in Elliot and Venables.
     
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    So is Walters leaving or not? This thread is growing a beard while waiting for this to actually happen.
     
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    I have been reading all moves will be announced on Tuesday or Wednesday.
     
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    Reading where?
     
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    I'm "hearing" smoke on reddit.



    Damon Benning is cryptic tweeting


    I don't have any insider info
     
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