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Why is Herbstreit doing color on nfl game?

Amazon contract. Had been doing it all year.
Yep. And my statistical n=1 opinion is that the shuffling of NFL announcers has led to a shittier experience for all the networks. Al Michaels belongs on SNF not Thursdays. Troy and Joe Buck belong on Sunday afternoons, not MNF. Kirk is good for college but his insight into the pro game is average at best.

Kugler, OTH, has shined with increased exposure!
 
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Yep. And my statistical n=1 opinion is that the shuffling of NFL announcers has led to a shittier experience for all the networks. Al Michaels belongs on SNF not Thursdays. Troy and Joe Buck belong on Sunday afternoons, not MNF. Kirk is good for college but his insight into the pro game is average at best.

Kugler, OTH, has shined with increased exposure!
Herbstreit is fine at the nfl. Your just used to him only doing college.
 
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Is he leaving college ball? I hear him on cowboys/titans game now.


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Yep. And my statistical n=1 opinion is that the shuffling of NFL announcers has led to a shittier experience for all the networks. Al Michaels belongs on SNF not Thursdays. Troy and Joe Buck belong on Sunday afternoons, not MNF. Kirk is good for college but his insight into the pro game is average at best.

Kugler, OTH, has shined with increased exposure!
They're all struggling to keep up with the current star of NFL analysts, Tony Romo. He blows all of the others away.
 
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Thank you for the opportunity to complain about a sports announcer. I formally submit my complaint about the announcer in question.
 
Herbstreit is pretty damn good. I don't know why everyone hates on him. Yeah he does some cringe stuff sometimes, but he also works for a machine. I personally really like both his NFL commentary and really like his college commentary.
Many people hate him because of his bias towards certain teams and conferences and the fact that he can't comprehend thought past the party line. Examples:

1. His constant harping on the notion that the 4 teams in the playoff should be what the committee thinks are the 4 "best teams". To hell with who wins, it just an opinion of who some small group of people think are the best. If he had it his way, Alabama would be in the playoff by default every year. In his world, if a talented team had 20 players suspended for the first 6 games and lost 4 of them, they would be in the playoff when they came back and won the remainder of the games. In his world, the Chiefs would have played the Bills in the Superbowl last year, regardless of who won the playoff games.

2. His either inability to understand logic or his ignoring logic to support a party line (i.e. ESPN's party line). It was never so apparent than in the 2009 B12 championship game when the clock ran out on the last play of the game the same way it had run all season and him proclaiming that the officials were "right" for putting time back on the clock for just that play only. Everyone knows that the clock does not stop the moment that the ball goes out of bounds, but rather it stops when the ball goes out of bounds, the ref signals to stop the clock, and the clock operator throws the switch. Herbstreit and his cohorts at ESPN were adamant that the refs made the right call to put time back on the clock because it helped assure an Alabama-Texas NC game.

3) He's a wonk for the SEC and tOSU and thinks that it's great that 80% of the top 25 recruits every year go to just a few schools.
 
Many people hate him because of his bias towards certain teams and conferences and the fact that he can't comprehend thought past the party line. Examples:

1. His constant harping on the notion that the 4 teams in the playoff should be what the committee thinks are the 4 "best teams". To hell with who wins, it just an opinion of who some small group of people think are the best. If he had it his way, Alabama would be in the playoff by default every year. In his world, if a talented team had 20 players suspended for the first 6 games and lost 4 of them, they would be in the playoff when they came back and won the remainder of the games. In his world, the Chiefs would have played the Bills in the Superbowl last year, regardless of who won the playoff games.

2. His either inability to understand logic or his ignoring logic to support a party line (i.e. ESPN's party line). It was never so apparent than in the 2009 B12 championship game when the clock ran out on the last play of the game the same way it had run all season and him proclaiming that the officials were "right" for putting time back on the clock for just that play only. Everyone knows that the clock does not stop the moment that the ball goes out of bounds, but rather it stops when the ball goes out of bounds, the ref signals to stop the clock, and the clock operator throws the switch. Herbstreit and his cohorts at ESPN were adamant that the refs made the right call to put time back on the clock because it helped assure an Alabama-Texas NC game.

3) He's a wonk for the SEC and tOSU and thinks that it's great that 80% of the top 25 recruits every year go to just a few schools.
To be fair, Nebraska nation agreed with number three when we were in that club. We’re hoping NIL puts us back in that club again. It’s not like he’s way out in left field on that one.
 
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To be fair, Nebraska nation agreed with number three when we were in that club. We’re hoping NIL puts us back in that club again. It’s not like he’s way out in left field on that one.
I would also argue number one isn’t that contentious either. Very few people in the power 5 fan bases believe undefeated group of 5 teams deserve playoff slots over one or even 2 loss power 5 teams.
 
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To be fair, Nebraska nation agreed with number three when we were in that club. We’re hoping NIL puts us back in that club again. It’s not like he’s way out in left field on that one.
I don't think that we were ever in the club where we were getting 2-3 five star and 20 4 star recruits every year.

Looking back to 1969 of players who probably would have been considered 5 star players out of HS (not including JUCOs and transfers).

1969 - Johnny Rodgers
1971 - Dave Humm
1975 - Junior Miller
1980 - Turner Gill
1981 - Irving Fryar
1985 - Steve Taylor
1986 - Terry Rodgers
1992 - Tommie Frazier
1993 - Lawrence Phillips
1994 - Grant Wistrom
1995 - Ahman Green
1997 - Bobby Newcomb
2001 - Richie Incognito
2005 - Marlon Lucky
2008 - Baker Steinkuhler

That's about it. Sure, we have many other players that ended up playing to 5 star level (Rimmington, Dean Steinkuhler, Suh, Rozier, Crouch, etc.), but we weren't getting them out of HS.

In 2023, Alabama signed 4 five star and 22 four star players. Georgia signed 2 five star and 3 (6.0) four star defensive lineman in this class alone.
 
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I don't think that we were ever in the club where we were getting 2-3 five star and 20 4 star recruits every year.

Looking back to 1969 of players who probably would have been considered 5 star players out of HS (not including JUCOs and transfers).

1969 - Johnny Rodgers
1971 - Dave Humm
1975 - Junior Miller
1980 - Turner Gill
1981 - Irving Fryar
1985 - Steve Taylor
1986 - Terry Rodgers
1992 - Tommie Frazier
1993 - Lawrence Phillips
1994 - Grant Wistrom
1995 - Ahman Green
1997 - Bobby Newcomb
2001 - Richie Incognito
2005 - Marlon Lucky
2008 - Baker Steinkuhler

That's about it. Sure, we have many other players that ended up playing to 5 star level (Rimmington, Dean Steinkuhler, Suh, Rozier, Crouch, etc.), but we weren't getting them out of HS.

In 2023, Alabama signed 4 five star and 22 four star players. Georgia signed 2 five star and 3 (6.0) four star defensive lineman in this class alone.
Regardless of the star ratings and media industry around recruits which was fledgling compared to modern day. There were only a handful of teams competing for the best players and we were one of them. I dont remember anyone caring about us sharing our haul with the ISUs and KSUs of the world.
 
Regardless of the star ratings and media industry around recruits which was fledgling compared to modern day. There were only a handful of teams competing for the best players and we were one of them. I dont remember anyone caring about us sharing our haul with the ISUs and KSUs of the world.
Quite the contrary. It was well known in the 1970s that teams like USC, OU, Texas, tOSU, Penn State, Alabama and others would consistently out recruit Nebraska. Based on the fledging rankings, TO only had one recruiting class in the top 10 during his tenure, 1980. Most of his classes were in the 10-20 range.

In 1995, before the Fiesta Bowl, it was commonly held that Florida has considerably more talent than Nebraska, even though eyeballs could tell that this was not true.

Honestly now, the closest thing to Nebraska under TO now is Utah, a team who stumbles now and then, but seems to be able to beat teams with far more talent on paper.
 
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