Why did Scott Frost fail?
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He failed because he lacked attention to detail and had huge blinders with his ability to diagnosis and fix issues in the program. Sloppy is the one word I’d use if I had to.
With UCF, he inherited a situation with NFL caliber talent (or close to it) in key positions and the mirrors aligned on his season. He also had 0 zero pressure to deliver.
With UCF, he inherited a situation with NFL caliber talent (or close to it) in key positions and the mirrors aligned on his season. He also had 0 zero pressure to deliver.
He failed because he couldn't instill mental discipline in the team. That's evident by all the close games and then always failing to finish with wins. It's just not accidental or luck when it happens that many times. Now the question really is WHY was he unable to get the players in the right mindset? I don't know the answer. You'd really have to have been inside the team I think to understand that. Maybe some smart analytical member of the team will tell us one of these days.
I do think Scott himself doesn't have a clue as to what went wrong.
I do think Scott himself doesn't have a clue as to what went wrong.
He caught lightning in a Florida bottle. Had talent to allow his success with little effort on his part.
Here we come with a pocket full of $, $$$,… Honey, we’re moving to Nebraska! I guess he thought the party would never end,
”A round for all barkeep, & keep ‘em comin’, say, who’s that blonde? Send her over!
Here we come with a pocket full of $, $$$,… Honey, we’re moving to Nebraska! I guess he thought the party would never end,
”A round for all barkeep, & keep ‘em comin’, say, who’s that blonde? Send her over!
I think there only one troll thread going on blaming Trev. Seems like pretty much all of husker nation is ready to turn the page.
Along with dand84's comment about attention to detail I would also add stubborn. Too stubborn to hire a D1 staff when he came here. Too stubborn to can some of them when they obviously were not working out. Too stubborn in his system to tweak it a bit to give POB and Gebbia a chance to stay on and contribute. Too stubborn to find a replacement for 2AM. Too stubborn to bench under-performing players. Too stubborn to give up playclling, then when forced to, pouted like a child. To stubborn in his gameplan that the plan was followed rather than what was working and few adjustments were made in game and at half because dammit, we're going to follow the plan (look no further than the defensive plan last Saturday). And on and on. I worked with some very stubborn people and they mostly failed because they couldn't adapt.
It's discipline across the board. If the HC doesn't have it....No way in hell his players will.
We got a picture of Frost's decision making when he was offered the Nebraska job and brought all of his assistants with him. I know he liked and respected them but this seems a bit like his attitude towards special teams, we are good enough to work around it.
Seriously, from that point on, it has been on after another and he was never able to get out of his own way with things he said and did.
Ultimately, he isn't blessed with great intuition and the ability to think ahead based on what his eyes are telling him.
Seriously, from that point on, it has been on after another and he was never able to get out of his own way with things he said and did.
Ultimately, he isn't blessed with great intuition and the ability to think ahead based on what his eyes are telling him.
Milton making him look better than he is. Other talent to recruit in Florida. Big 10 being a big step up from AAC. Over his head. Bringing his own coaches with him. Poor ingame coaching. Poor in developing talent. Poor training techniques and practices. Disclipline. Ego. Stubborness. Lazy recruiting.
That's the tip of the iceberg. Honestly there are dozens of reasons and we could talk about them all night. I'll leave that to you guys because I'm going to bed. Heh BigRedTed is going to bed. I kind of like that, lol...
That's the tip of the iceberg. Honestly there are dozens of reasons and we could talk about them all night. I'll leave that to you guys because I'm going to bed. Heh BigRedTed is going to bed. I kind of like that, lol...
It seemed to me Scott had a strong desire to prove he was right even after it failed. Case in point, those backyard pass plays to start the game. They were a disaster, but he kept ordering them up. I think he got a little of that attitude from his mentor Chip Kelley. The difference is I think even Chip has mellowed a little bit. Scott was defiant to the end.
Yes, so very true sir. For some reason he just loves those horizontal passes & even backyard passes that both almost never work out well.
Sadly, it looks to me like he missed out on working greatly with training vicious linemen on both sides of the ball.
1. Trenches 2. Special teams focus. 3. Qb decisions on who to bring in. 4. Intangibles all attention to detail and odd personal brand and the overall impact of those traits
Parity has hurt Neb more than any other school. The worst recruiting is within our 500 mile radius and that’s not changing. No coach will win compared to the past. I use to think a BIG10 championship every 10 years or so was realistic and that’s not anymore.
This makes 3 out of 4 head coaches at NU who have failed horribly in part due to bringing their buddy in as their DC. That’s one thing Saban would never do.
I agree to an extent. It runs deeper than that though. Honestly I think we will need a disciplinarian who runs on the premise that defense win championships. Even in the day and age where it's impossible to stop anyone completely. Unless its Iowa!
A couple things I will add... I think being a great CFB coach requires certain organizational skills that SF lacks. I don't think Scott is a dummy, far from it.
You can be very bright and not have the instincts and abilty to run an organization. At UCF he could get away with this deficency, not so much here.
(I can sympathize... I have a graduate engineering degree and no interest in running an organization).
One other thing I see is a lack of willingness or ability to address issues proactively. It was a constant game of whack-a-mole problem solving during his tenure.
He didn't seem to be able to anticipate problems and deal with them before they arose.
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Callahan and Frost early on both showed you can recruit here just fine. We recruit well enough to compete in the Big 10. That is not the issue. Our issue is continually hiring broken coaches.
stop worrying about competing for natties. Not gonna happen consistantly for schools in the north in this day and age outside of luck. In the BCS and CFP era only OSU (2) has won a natty from the north. That is because they and a few other schools have the truly best recruits.
It is only getting worse. Of the 8 CFP years it is all SEC cept the very 1st (OSU) and 2 by Clemson.
stop worrying about competing for natties. Not gonna happen consistantly for schools in the north in this day and age outside of luck. In the BCS and CFP era only OSU (2) has won a natty from the north. That is because they and a few other schools have the truly best recruits.
It is only getting worse. Of the 8 CFP years it is all SEC cept the very 1st (OSU) and 2 by Clemson.
A great example is a player being any where close to a blocked put vs ND. If I was the coach there, He would of been kicked off team or never seen the field again. That was a great example of very poor coaching. We told 6th grade young boys to not do what he did! Very elementary stuff!!
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