Where we sit right now in recruiting.....according to me

[Tuco Salamanca]

Currently on scholarship - 74
Seniors leaving - 16
Commitments - 22
Open - 5



QB - 2 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 1, 2019 - 3
RB - 4 on scholarship, losing 2, committed 3, 2019 - 5
WR - 7 on scholarship, losing 2, committed 2, 2019 - 7
Duck - 1 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 2, 2019 - 3
TE - 4 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 1, 2019 - 5
OT - 5 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 2, 2019 - 7
OG/C 7 on scholarship, losing 3, committed 2, 2019 - 6

DE - 9 on scholarship, losing 1, committed 2, 2019 - 10
NT - 4 on scholarship, losing 2, committed 0, 2019 - 2
OLB - 11 on scholarship, losing 1, committed 1, 2019 - 11
ILB - 3 on scholarship, losing 1, committed 3, 2019 - 5
S - 9 on scholarship, losing 3, committed 2, 2019 - 8
CB - 5 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 1 - 2019 - 6

ST - 3 on scholarship, losing 1, committed 0, 2019 - 2

Based on those numbers, and what I see as the number of players needed per position, here is what we need to finish out the class.

CB - 1
OL - 2
ILB - 1
Pass rusher - 1
NT - 1
Understand that this does not include any "non announced" departures from the current roster. When/ If there are more of those, these numbers will change.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan]

Nice work dude...

 

[DudznSudz]

Love your analysis as always, @Tuco Salamanca.

As to your "needs," you're going to have to give one up for Ty Robinson at DE. We got Graham as a pass-rush specialist, so perhaps that is a wash or are you saying we need 1 more?

I'd love for us to get more OL commits, and 1 more Safety or CB, but I have no idea where they would be coming from.

Also, is it just me, or are your numbers showing that our roster is balancing out nicely, FINALLY?

 

[GretnaShawn]

Does this include the NT grad transfer?

 

[Lincoln100]

Currently on scholarship - 74
Seniors leaving - 16
Commitments - 22
Open - 5



QB - 2 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 1, 2019 - 3
RB - 4 on scholarship, losing 2, committed 2, 2019 - 4
WR - 7 on scholarship, losing 2, committed 2, 2019 - 7
Duck - 1 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 2, 2019 - 3
TE - 4 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 1, 2019 - 5
OT - 5 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 2, 2019 - 7
OG/C 7 on scholarship, losing 3, committed 2, 2019 - 6

DE - 9 on scholarship, losing 1, committed 2, 2019 - 10
NT - 4 on scholarship, losing 2, committed 1, 2019 - 3
OLB - 11 on scholarship, losing 1, committed 1, 2019 - 11
ILB - 3 on scholarship, losing 1, committed 3, 2019 - 5
S - 9 on scholarship, losing 3, committed 2, 2019 - 8
CB - 5 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 1 - 2019 - 6

ST - 3 on scholarship, losing 1, committed 0, 2019 - 2

Based on those numbers, and what I see as the number of players needed per position, here is what we need to finish out the class.

CB - 1
OL - 2
ILB - 1
Pass rusher - 1

Understand that this does not include any "non announced" departures from the current roster. When/ If there are more of those, these numbers will change.

Well done. Does this include Wyatt?

 

[frostonthegrass]

Commitment lists 23 and hasnt added Daniels to the list unless i missed it

 

[Lincoln100]

Amare Barno visiting this weekend? He might be that pass rusher. 6'6" and 220, he is a long, rangy dude with good speed.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Does this include the NT grad transfer?

Does not, he isn't here yet. I know it is announced, but I don't think his scholarship will have an effect on these numbers. I believe, he will take a scholarship from future attrition.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Commitment lists 23 and hasnt added Daniels to the list unless i missed it

Daniels is not a recruit. I don't tend to count D1 or Grad transfers as part of the class, simply because, they usually take a scholarship from a player that we don't know is leaving.

fixed the math on 23, I started before Robinson committed, and didn't go back to check my math. good catch.

 

[husker2612]

Currently on scholarship - 74
Seniors leaving - 16
Commitments - 23
Open - 4



QB - 2 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 1, 2019 - 3
RB - 4 on scholarship, losing 2, committed 3, 2019 - 5
WR - 7 on scholarship, losing 2, committed 2, 2019 - 7
Duck - 1 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 2, 2019 - 3
TE - 4 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 1, 2019 - 5
OT - 5 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 2, 2019 - 7
OG/C 7 on scholarship, losing 3, committed 2, 2019 - 6

DE - 9 on scholarship, losing 1, committed 2, 2019 - 10
NT - 4 on scholarship, losing 2, committed 1, 2019 - 3
OLB - 11 on scholarship, losing 1, committed 1, 2019 - 11
ILB - 3 on scholarship, losing 1, committed 3, 2019 - 5
S - 9 on scholarship, losing 3, committed 2, 2019 - 8
CB - 5 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 1 - 2019 - 6

ST - 3 on scholarship, losing 1, committed 0, 2019 - 2

Based on those numbers, and what I see as the number of players needed per position, here is what we need to finish out the class.

CB - 1
OL - 2
ILB - 1
Pass rusher - 1

Understand that this does not include any "non announced" departures from the current roster. When/ If there are more of those, these numbers will change.

Do we know of anyone that will more than likely be leaving?

 

[DudznSudz]

@Tuco Salamanca , what about my question above? Looks like we're getting the commit from Ty Robinson; how does that affect your "needs" list?

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Do we know of anyone that will more than likely be leaving?

There are rumors, but nothing substantiated.

My guess is that Lightborn will be gone, and that will open up a scholarship, since the starter is a walk on.

I would bet we lose an OLB or 2, maybe a RB, and a DB or 2.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

@Tuco Salamanca , what about my question above? Looks like we're getting the commit from Ty Robinson; how does that affect your "needs" list?

It doesn't really, when Robinson commits, I will adjust after.

We are over at a couple of positions, so hopefully the attrition comes from those positions, maybe Vaha.

edit - continuation on Ty Robinson thoughts - Dawson also likes to have his players, especially the young ones, learn and be able to play all three spots up front.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Also, my OLine numbers are based on where they are playing now. I know there is talk of moving Farniok inside, etc. So any additional OL recruiting could still be at OT, even though it show that position as full.

 

[HominidHusker]

It’ll be an interesting finish for sure.
The good news is they’ve put together a good looking class so far. And there’s room to fill some of those holes.

I wouldn’t mind a JUCO ILB if we could land the right one as we transition more youngsters.
OL is still a concern.
I want Ty (big twin) Robinson baaaad!
I dont mind a young NT (Pola family package fills NT/DB)
I worry less at skill spots as it’s easier to plug in the younger players, but projecting out a couple years, help is still needed in the trenches where it takes longer to develop. That would be my focus.

 

[TheBeav815]

Just me or is that a TON of DEs? Maybe some of those end up at OLB?

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Just me or is that a TON of DEs? Maybe some of those end up at OLB?

I don't know, all of them are pretty big dudes. Wildeman, Rogers and Graham appear to be the only DEs listed that aren't over 260ish

 

[yunginsNU2]

8 safeties... if we lose a cb does one of these safeties fit better at cb?

 

[-LVhusker-]

It’s preferred for guys on the back end to be able to play safety or corner.

 

[TruHusker]

It’s preferred for guys on the back end to be able to play safety or corner.

When was the last time you saw a good safety who moved to CB? Different skill sets, they are not necessarily interchangeable.

 

[yunginsNU2]

When was the last time you saw a good safety who moved to CB? Different skill sets, they are not necessarily interchangeable.

Thats what worries me

 

[scarletred]

Won’t be able to replace a Stanley Morgan right off the bat but Darien Chase looks like he could be that replacement..

I remember how good Morgan was his Freshman year, Chase reminds me of him in his highlight film..

 

[SnohomishRed]

I don't know, all of them are pretty big dudes. Wildeman, Rogers and Graham appear to be the only DEs listed that aren't over 260ish

I suspect he is planning on doing what a lot of teams do convert a few to DT's

 

[Huskerfan2112]

my oregon insiders tell me ty will be flipping to the ducks.

My dentist tells me 4-5 dentist prefer trident. So what?

 

[scarletred]

my oregon insiders tell me ty will be flipping to the ducks.

He hasn’t even commited yet how could he flip?

 

[Chief Wiggum]

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[-LVhusker-]

When was the last time you saw a good safety who moved to CB? Different skill sets, they are not necessarily interchangeable.

Charles Woodson made it look easy. Let’s just get a bunch of guys that look like that!

 

[snootalope]

Holy crap - nice write up Tuco! Btw, if it wasn’t your name that started this thread I wouldn’t have opened it.

For the love of football, send us 2 damn good pass rushers!!!

 

[WestCoastCornhusker2]

Currently on scholarship - 74
Seniors leaving - 16
Commitments - 22
Open - 5



QB - 2 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 1, 2019 - 3
RB - 4 on scholarship, losing 2, committed 3, 2019 - 5
WR - 7 on scholarship, losing 2, committed 2, 2019 - 7
Duck - 1 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 2, 2019 - 3
TE - 4 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 1, 2019 - 5
OT - 5 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 2, 2019 - 7
OG/C 7 on scholarship, losing 3, committed 2, 2019 - 6

DE - 9 on scholarship, losing 1, committed 2, 2019 - 10
NT - 4 on scholarship, losing 2, committed 0, 2019 - 2
OLB - 11 on scholarship, losing 1, committed 1, 2019 - 11
ILB - 3 on scholarship, losing 1, committed 3, 2019 - 5
S - 9 on scholarship, losing 3, committed 2, 2019 - 8
CB - 5 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 1 - 2019 - 6

ST - 3 on scholarship, losing 1, committed 0, 2019 - 2

Based on those numbers, and what I see as the number of players needed per position, here is what we need to finish out the class.

CB - 1
OL - 2
ILB - 1
Pass rusher - 1
NT - 1
Understand that this does not include any "non announced" departures from the current roster. When/ If there are more of those, these numbers will change.

Isn't WR in need for a couple more?

 

[jmliehr]

Currently on scholarship - 74
Seniors leaving - 16
Commitments - 22
Open - 5



QB - 2 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 1, 2019 - 3
RB - 4 on scholarship, losing 2, committed 3, 2019 - 5
WR - 7 on scholarship, losing 2, committed 2, 2019 - 7
Duck - 1 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 2, 2019 - 3
TE - 4 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 1, 2019 - 5
OT - 5 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 2, 2019 - 7
OG/C 7 on scholarship, losing 3, committed 2, 2019 - 6

DE - 9 on scholarship, losing 1, committed 2, 2019 - 10
NT - 4 on scholarship, losing 2, committed 0, 2019 - 2
OLB - 11 on scholarship, losing 1, committed 1, 2019 - 11
ILB - 3 on scholarship, losing 1, committed 3, 2019 - 5
S - 9 on scholarship, losing 3, committed 2, 2019 - 8
CB - 5 on scholarship, losing 0, committed 1 - 2019 - 6

ST - 3 on scholarship, losing 1, committed 0, 2019 - 2

Based on those numbers, and what I see as the number of players needed per position, here is what we need to finish out the class.

CB - 1
OL - 2
ILB - 1
Pass rusher - 1
NT - 1
Understand that this does not include any "non announced" departures from the current roster. When/ If there are more of those, these numbers will change.

You seem to be missing two, or two have quit that I missed? Grouping positions to make it easier. I show 60 returnees to your 58

You say only 3 returning RB (I'll include Jones here)- I see 4 with Washington, Mazour, Bradley and Jones

We also seem to differ at DB, you list 11, I see 12 with Clark, Taylor, Bootle, Jackson, Lee, Anderson, Smith, Williams, Domann, Butler, Dismuke

Actually, I think I found it...Mazour and Weinmaster were awarded and technically were one year, but I assume they will both carry forward.

 

[Harry Caray]

Do we know of anyone that will more than likely be leaving?

I wouldn't be surprised if Lightbourn, Jaylin Bradley, Pernell Jefferson, Quayshon Alexander, Avery Anderson, and Vaha Vainaku are all "encouraged" to move on.

 

[red scowl]

When was the last time you saw a good safety who moved to CB? Different skill sets, they are not necessarily interchangeable.

We have moved good safety's to corner. It has been very bad. Corner, imo, should be your most athletic.

 

[z28craz]

We have moved good safety's to corner. It has been very bad. Corner, imo, should be your most athletic.

Having played the position a long time ago I personally think it is the hardest position to play on a football field. It’s just really hard to stick with a receiver, anticipate his route, and actually play the ball. For all the times i’ve Screamed at the screen for Lamar Jackson to turn his head and play the ball, I have to admit it’s far easier said than done. So the fact that he actually was turning his head and playing the ball toward the end of the season is huge IMO.

 

[red scowl]

Having played the position a long time ago I personally think it is the hardest position to play on a football field. It’s just really hard to stick with a receiver, anticipate his route, and actually play the ball. For all the times i’ve Screamed at the screen for Lamar Jackson to turn his head and play the ball, I have to admit it’s far easier said than done. So the fact that he actually was turning his head and playing the ball toward the end of the season is huge IMO.

He would be a great safety, but he doesn't have that hate you need. Hes got everything else.

Dude didn't quit or transfer, despite being demoted. I love him as a Husker.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

You seem to be missing two, or two have quit that I missed? Grouping positions to make it easier. I show 60 returnees to your 58

You say only 3 returning RB (I'll include Jones here)- I see 4 with Washington, Mazour, Bradley and Jones

We also seem to differ at DB, you list 11, I see 12 with Clark, Taylor, Bootle, Jackson, Lee, Anderson, Smith, Williams, Domann, Butler, Dismuke

Actually, I think I found it...Mazour and Weinmaster were awarded and technically were one year, but I assume they will both carry forward.

They will be removed from scholarship so the class can get two additional members, if there is enough attrition, to get the class below 85 come fall, they may well be awarded another 1 year scholarship.

I have Domann as a LB

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Isn't WR in need for a couple more?

When you look at the Duck R position, you will have 10 WR and/ or 8 RB, that is ample at both positions, in my opinion.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

I suspect he is planning on doing what a lot of teams do convert a few to DT's

Nebraska doesn't have any DTs. They have NT and DE. As I said before, in this thread or another, Dawson likes his players to be able to play all 3 positions in a pinch.

 

[scarletred]

Nebraska doesn't have any DTs. They have NT and DE. As I said before, in this thread or another, Dawson likes his players to be able to play all 3 positions in a pinch.

In the 3-4 Personally I consider them DT not DE and If Dawson likes to play all 3 in that personal they are more of a DT than a DE in a 4-3..

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

In the 3-4 Personally I consider them DT not DE and If Dawson likes to play all 3 in that personal they are more of a DT than a DE in a 4-3..

The DE in a 3-4 are clearly more like a 4-3 DT, but that doesn't make them DTs. Either way it is just semantics.

My point was that there aren't a lot of DEs, on this roster that could be converted to OLBs. Which is what I was responding to.

 

[SoFL Husker]

Thanks for the color Tuco. Great thread, lots of good work here.