What if Nebraska looks good at the end of the season?
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I don't understand comments like this. I am getting tired of beating up on Mr. Riley, but when has he shown he can be a consistent winner? I think threads like this a put us fans in a no-win situation. Do we all want Nebraska to win? Sure we do. nothing is better than a Husker win. Do we think it is probable? No. I don't think any of us want to beat-up on the Huskers, but there has to be a time when we all become realist.
Win or lose, Riley is going to get fired. That is my gut feeling. I think that decision was made when Eichorst was fired. You don't fire your AD mid contract unless you are fixing to fire the football coach too.That NIU loss cooked Riley's goose. Not by itself of course. But there are some powerful boosters who never liked the Riley hire is my guess and used the NIU loss as leverage. And Riley's overall record was no help either.
Moos was probably told in the interview process that one of his first jobs would be the firing of Riley and the hiring of a new coach. I thought it was a telling comment when Moos said in the presser "I don't fire coaches mid season" in responding to a question about the football program. Why say that at all? Why not say something far more bland like "I have a process of evaluation for all coaches and I will be applying that here as well".
Moos was probably told in the interview process that one of his first jobs would be the firing of Riley and the hiring of a new coach. I thought it was a telling comment when Moos said in the presser "I don't fire coaches mid season" in responding to a question about the football program. Why say that at all? Why not say something far more bland like "I have a process of evaluation for all coaches and I will be applying that here as well".
Sometimes the players get what they are doing? Well it appears to me like the opponents are getting it a lot better than ours. At what point do you say its coaching when we have so many players not getting it?
Well, I am one that isn't as certain as you apparently are. No particular feeling. I don't think firing Riley was mentioned at all. I think the overall work of SE was judged and probably some things we don't know about. The football situation was one of those issues, albeit a big one. I think most of the time the talk is all positive about building programs and helping coaches, players and staff be successful, not about firing people right away. That tends to make an interview a bit icy.
I have hired people telling them exactly what they were coming in to and there were some people not pulling their weight in some departments. In this case, he already knew it. To say he doesn't fire until after the season is simply a matter of policy he wanted to get out in front of everyone and to shut everyone up and to let the rest of the coaches know how he operates. SE said he doesn't comment until after the season, it is a common trait. In fact, to even hint that Riley would be fired before the guy (Moos) even starts would be really really dumb in my opinion. He has to stick with his process of working through these things in his own way and systematically, not reacting before he even gets his desk set up with the pictures of his family.
But I could very well be completely wrong. It would not be the first time.
Doesn't matter. Nebraska does not lose to anyone 56-14 at home. I repeat, Nebraska should never lose 56-14 period! It's like a dull marriage, 3 years is enough and it's time to pull the plug.
I think he even could have survived the NIU loss if we had shown that were getting close to Wiscy and OhioSU. But we didn't. Heck, I think he might yet survive if he could go 4-1 or 5-0 from here on.
I hope Nebraska wins 5 in row! I happen to buy into all the hype and bet NU would win more than 7 Games. GBR!
This.
Riley's fate was sealed when Eichorst was fired. Since then, Riley hasn't done much to help make that decision tougher. Closing out the season with wins will not and should not save him.
Let’s be real guys, we are not going to win out. I like to make believe and dream just as much as the next guy, but then reality slaps us in the face when Saturday arrives. Riley is done. GBR
I just think the last two weeks definitely sealed his fate. Moot point anyway. There is no way this team wins 4 out of the next five.
Gotta give you credit, dude. You are still on the deck of the Titanic with the band playing.
We've got one maybe 2 more winnable games on the schedule. Northwestern is a pick em. Purdue and Minnesota are probably L's depends on turnovers, Penn State and Iowa are L's. I think we beat Northwestern and steal one in Minnesota to get to 5 wins. That aint enough
Most everyone including myself want the Huskers to win out but I realistically can't see more than 3 wins at best. Let's just say that the Huskers win 3 or even 4 games and Coach Riley is not fired,,,if the 2018 season would go anything like this one I can't even imagine the s**t storm that would happen
I'm trying to give pass happy as much chance as possible. Then we can go back to decisively running the ball, if pass happy doesn't work.
The team came out of the tunnel, and that was the last sign of life. They were defeated before kickoff, something we used to do to other teams. We need to state the obvious: they quit on the game. Incompetent at best, disinterested at worst. I can count on one hand the players whom had fire and gave effort. We won't need to worry about improvement. Riley is done, or I am.
The tunnel walks say everything. We looked beat before we even took the field. I was watching back the 2001 OU game on YT the other day. Wow. those guys looked like they were ready to kill somebody. They had so much energy and passion and honestly we have none of that now. The tunnel walk is a shell of its old self.
Then Riley’s coaching eulogy will be a bit more positive at the press conference announcing his release
I said almost the exact same thing after Saturday night..."watch Riley win out or something like that, so the narrative will be that we want to can a coach who won 8 games". Then I realized we are talking about Mike Riley and I felt a lot better about that not happening. The chance of us going on a heater like that is the same chance as me scoring with Kate Upton, maybe worse....
Winning out is a low probability. Winning out minus one is within the range of reasonable. Let's say NU ends up 7-5 (as in assume it happens). We will have terminated the employment of three of our last four coaches after winning seasons. And in this scenario, only one of those three coaches had a losing season. At what point does your potential pool of coaches constrict? An argument could be made that if a coach isn't up to the challenge, then we don't want them here. However, it would be perfectly reasonable for a potential hire to consider how much time he actually has. Will it be two years next time?
Riley can lose more, we can write of the season and this can be easier. But our underlying problems of the absence of difference making players and the prospect of yet again shifting styles of play (which may exacerbate issues with talent we now have on the roster) will still exist. At some point, we have to allow a coach to come in and get some time to stabilize the program. That probably isn't Riley, I get that. But at what point does the hiring process of a coach become an issue of beggars can't be choosers? That's when we truly become Minnesota or worse.
Can Riley with a winning record and quite possibly we might be hoping that Frost says yes.
Riley can lose more, we can write of the season and this can be easier. But our underlying problems of the absence of difference making players and the prospect of yet again shifting styles of play (which may exacerbate issues with talent we now have on the roster) will still exist. At some point, we have to allow a coach to come in and get some time to stabilize the program. That probably isn't Riley, I get that. But at what point does the hiring process of a coach become an issue of beggars can't be choosers? That's when we truly become Minnesota or worse.
Can Riley with a winning record and quite possibly we might be hoping that Frost says yes.
no, I'm run the ball guy...but if we spent all this time trying to be pass happy, I want to see what this road has, before I turn around and head back to the run.
This. I was all for waiting to see how well he does down the stretch. But I am over that. Get rid of him and move on. Riley put together a shit staff and it cost him. Too bad for him. Now he can take his millions and go home.
So is 54/46 run pass ratio pass happy? What about 58/42?
Asking for a friend. I'll hang up and listen.
If Mike Riley can turn the softest team in the history of the Big 10 conference into a good football team, I say give him another year! I don't see it happening, the team I saw play against Ohio State was the softest college football team I've ever watched
The national press is laughing a little bit at Nebraska for its blunders in hiring coaches. They do not have our best interests in mind. The Huskers cannot worry about how they are perceived nationally. Moos and company have to do what is best for Nebraska football without regard to what someone on the outside thinks they should do.
(Watching winter storms roll onto the Oregon coast is one of the big attractions of the area. Riley should be home in plenty of time to sit in his rocker, grab a good book, spread a blanket over his lap, sip a cup of hot cocoa and nod off to dreams of all his Husker dollars.)
No, it is not reasonable to think that this team can win 4 out of 5. Moreso, it is laughable that some seem to think it has even a snowball's chance in hell of happening. Some of these guys still praying for Riley to get another season are hilarious. And no. There is not a coach in the country that would question Riley being fired at this point. For those that would, I sure as hell wouldn't want them being our next HC, anyway.
So in essence, you now feel the bar should be lowered to just having a winning season at NU, regardless of whether NU is getting the s*it kicked out of them by teams happen to be above average. Got it.
You I would put in the same camp as redwine. Great poster....just lost your damn mind in thinking Riley is ever going to deliver here.
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Fair enough, redwine. It just isn't going to happen with Riley. Hell, that isn't even my opinion anymore.....that is a fact. You have been a good poster and always seemed to get it when it comes to the 'optics' of how a team looks.... or even how well they are coached. Just kinda shocked your one of the ones still on a sinking ship. Take care, man.
And....edit...i hate that MR failed here. I love the guy.
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What do we want to be? Is Riley the one to get us there? Then everything else doesn't matter. Worries of stabilization and national perceptions of firing and such is minor compared to where we want to be.
I specifically stated that Riley probably isn't the guy. No, I didn't say the the bar should be lowered. I used the word assume. And I disagree with you if you think that firing multiple coaches who finish with winning records (again, hypothetical wrt Riley) doesn't affect the next applicant pool.
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