What’s the difference between Nebraska and Bama?
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I agree with this. We can all live in the past all we want but that is just a sign we are old and means nothing in the present. The term Blue Blood is rapidly fading, whether anyone wants to admit it or not.
I would take what Tuco said a step further. I have said on her numerous times, the success of the Huskers rested solely on the shoulders of one Tom Osborne. He was on Bob's staff and had a tremendous influence even at the early stage of his career. He didn't stay stagnant with the game, going from a passing team to one that overpowered opponents. But more than that, he had an incredible mind for the game, players, and coaches. A totally unassuming person who would not demand immediate attention except by anyone with an ounce of football IQ. He knew and understood the game, his coaches, his players and the fans and was continually improving every aspect of each players development both physically and mentally.
Yes, we may win some games someday but it we ever want to get to that consistent success, the entire package needs to be in place. To be certain, it is a rate individual who has all of this. We all saw it and experienced it, I graduated in 72 so I remember the "glory days" and when the program turned the corner. Someday we will find that special person to run this program. Is is Frost? I have no idea, there is a huge learning curve and he is finding himself smack dab in the middle of it. There are only three ways to go from here.
If after 3 years and you say “ I don’t know if Frost is the answer” you probably have your answer.
Alabama hires ex NFL coaches to be assistants, and we don't. That might have something to do with the difference.
It's cyclical because of coaching changes. If you don't change coaches, you'll just continue to get the same results. Coaches impact everything in college football.
This is a stupid argument. Riley and Frost got destroyed by good teams AND they lost to a bunch of scrubs. We got blown out a few times by good teams during the Pelini era, so what? He always put respectable teams together with very few off the field issues.
We don’t hire ex NFL coaches because they don’t want nothing to do with NU right now. Why would they?
almost 50% of the population of the United States is within 500 miles of Columbus, Ohio.
35% of U.S. population is withing 500 miles of State College PA.
30% of the U.S. population is within 500 miles of Ann Arbor MI.
15% of the U.S. population is with 500 miles of Lincoln, NE.
23% of the U.S. population is within 500 miles of Tuscaloosa, AL, but it is some of the most fertile recruiting region in the country.
what is the percentage within 500 miles of Boise, ID, Eugene OR, Madison WI? For that matter what about Chapel Hill, NC or Clemson, SC
I’m sure you can pick and choose cities and say they recruit well because of population then pick a few more and say they recruit well because of “fertile recruiting regions”
population means some but not all. New York City is the largest city in the country, so by your standard Rutgers, UConn and Syracuse should be top 5 in recruiting every year. Boston College and UMass should be dominating as well with all of the inner city football factories in these areas. (Sarcasm)
Why don’t all the teams in the “fertile recruiting regions” help provide some parity within conferences? Why does Georgia do well but Ga Tech is routinely below average? Clemson and South Carolina share a state, in theory they have the same population within 500 miles and the same “fertile recruiting region”. How about ole Miss and Miss St. why are those teams so inconsistent? Starkville is less than 100 miles from Tuscaloosa and Oxford is 130 miles?
Then take into account, in the post you replied to, I wrote that Penn St, Michigan, Ohio St all recruit and sign kids from “warm weather states”. So the population within their 500 mile radius was never my point.
Ohio States 500 mile radius includes the entire eastern seaboard, Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, the Northern half of Georgia, as well as the northern half of Alabama, and the northeast corner of Mississippi.
Our 500 mile Radius barely includes the cities of Chicago, St. Louis, and Denver.
Since it has been reported here by numerous recruiting experts on multiple occasions, that the key to recruiting is to get the bulk of your players in the 500 mile radius, which makes sense because that distance can be driven in a day. Which radius is more valuable.
I am not saying that we cannot have success again like we've had in the past. I think there are advantages here as well, like the fan support and the incredible amount of money that is poured into this program by such a small state. But the farther we get from the turn of the century without being competitive, the harder our disadvantages will be to overcome.
Our 500 mile Radius barely includes the cities of Chicago, St. Louis, and Denver.
Since it has been reported here by numerous recruiting experts on multiple occasions, that the key to recruiting is to get the bulk of your players in the 500 mile radius, which makes sense because that distance can be driven in a day. Which radius is more valuable.
I am not saying that we cannot have success again like we've had in the past. I think there are advantages here as well, like the fan support and the incredible amount of money that is poured into this program by such a small state. But the farther we get from the turn of the century without being competitive, the harder our disadvantages will be to overcome.
We all know that winning, and winning many games and beating the OSU's and other B1G top teams will take care of a lot of ills. Until that happens, it's business (bad) as usual in Lincoln.
But you replied to me and my post about those schools I mentioned. I am telling you all of them are further away from Texas and Louisiana and all of the schools I mentioned are at least 1000 miles from central Florida, yet they can recruit those areas and bring in guys like Dobbins, Okudah at Ohio St, Parker Washington at Penn St Noah Cain who went to school in Denton Texas before going to IMG. Michigan went into Texas and beat out Nebraska for Chuck Filiaga, even though he didn't pan out, he was a top 150 player coming out of high school and chose Michigan. They have a several top players from California and Florida, some who didn't pan out but they were still highly rated coming out of high school. Oregon used to live in Texas under Kelly and Helfrich. They still kill it in California, and Eugene to LA is almost 1000 miles. Hell they came to Kansas City and took a player right out of our backyard in Dontae Manning.
My point is that we are getting used to making excuses for why things don't go our way. We do it in recruiting, we do it every freaking week when we bitch about officiating, and all year long when we complain about ESPN not "liking" us and Herbstreit said this about Nebraska. The Big Ten hates us, look at the schedule, blah blah blah.
Back in the day only a few games were on television. Now every game is and that helped level the field. Nebraska was one of the few regularly televised teams. It had the biggest rivalry in college football at that time...........Oklahoma. It has lost that. I have been to Lincoln. It's not nice there. There is more to do in Morgantown, WV and that is saying a lot. In this modern era Nebraska is a have not. Sorry just telling you the truth. Remember Colorado under McCartney? That will never happen there again as well.
by more to do in Morgantown, are you including burning the porch and yard couches?
Considering 1 of 38 people will be a victim of violent or property crime, does murder or assault/ battery included in the "more to do in Morgantown?
Fire Moos. Let him ride off into the sunset. Get an AD who will light a fire into these coaches
Sometimes the truth can anger people.by more to do in Morgantown, are you including burning the porch and yard couches?
Considering 1 of 38 people will be a victim of violent or property crime, does murder or assault/ battery included in the "more to do in Morgantown?
When I was looking at UNO as a destination to extend my young hockey career I started watching more sports programing from the US. The major networks bled through to Canadian cities within close proximity of the US border. I remember seeing that huge red Nebraska hat on the mascot and thought "WOW"! This was mid 90's when we were pounding the crap outta teams. Nebraska seemed to be on national TV every week. It wasn't my deciding factor but it sure made a difference in my thoughts about moving away from home to another country. The first time I went to a game at Memorial was mind blowing. I'd never seen that many fans at any game in any sport. The atmosphere was electric and this was 3 hours before game time. I know almost every game is on TV nowadays but we've still got a story to tell recruits. With the right guy in charge it will attract them. So far Scott hasnt done that. I hate it because I was a huge fan of his when he played. He's just not getting it done as the coach though.
Difference between the states?
Number of teeth left per capita?
Number of trailer parks?
I admittedly did little to no research.
Number of teeth left per capita?
Number of trailer parks?
I admittedly did little to no research.
Nobody will. You just don't get it. You are a 5-7 win team most years from here on. WVU used to win 9-10 in the Big East. Now we are playing real competition. We are going to put up similar records as well.
You forgot literacy rates and number of people per capita that have slept with a first cousin.
every single blue blood program has played in a new years 6 (major bowl) bowl game in the last 5 years except Neb who hasn't played in a major bowl in 20 years
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It’s interesting how it’s mentioned that other blue bloods fall on hard times . Oklahoma and Alabama are often referenced. Yet one needs to look at how long most of these down times lasted for these teams versus what’s going on st Nebraska . They also recovered ( this is key) and we haven’t , I for one am really concerned that we won’t .every single blue blood program has played in a new years 6 (major bowl) bowl game in the last 5 years except Neb who hasn't played in a major bowl in 20 years
To me if within the next 2 years we don’t have a few breakout performances, meaning we beat a team like Oklahoma or Ohio State that we will not reverse this course , and the new norm will be 4 to 6 wins a year.
Not sure you can jump straight from getting humiliated by Illinois at home, to beating a national powerhouse in 2 years. I'd be content taking it to the 4th quarter with either team and losing in a hard fought battle right now. Figure out how to win that one over the next 2 years after that I think is more rational.
Is "disciple" correct? He played for T.O., but are there any similarities between his team/program and T.O.'s?
The Nebraska football team today is much closer to a poor man's version of Oregon than to anything T.O. ran.
