Way to teach your kids to respect our country tards....

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He said what he needed to say to take power. kind of like your boy Trump. Historians disagree with your take.

And his own words... "A very different kind of socialist." ie... Totalitarian Dictator, Fascist, Far right conservative, and profound racist.
Did Hitler support socialized medicine? Did he support nationalization of industry? Did he support free education? Did he support wealth confiscation? Did he support crushing totalitarianism (which is where your lip-service applies, as this notion of “community ownership” quickly transforms into “oppressive government control”)? Did he support the confiscation of guns?

Where did he differ from the socialist of yesteryear and today? The only way I see is the emphasis on the extermination of Jews, which neither socialism or capitalism claims to be a central platform, but only one system allowed to thrive.
 

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Like I said. I defend parts and acknowledge that the US, in fact has many socialist programs and ideals that benefit all of the masses....even people, like yourself, who in fact benefit from those very programs.

I call out hypocrisy when I see it. My favorite is the staunch anti health care guy..who can't wait to turn 65 so he can go on medicare. I gotta get me some new knees when I turn 65. lol

I'm going to suggest you avoid beating your chest about how intelligent you are. Take that advice or leave it, it doesn't matter to me.

Nobody is "anti health care". Whether you realize it or not, Medicare is funded by the taxes you and I pay throughout our working years. When we get to retirement age, the health insurance you and I purchased through our employer is no longer available to us. Therefore, we must turn to an alternative. That's the way the system worked for many years, but there was no alternative years ago.

Therefore, instead of relying on the free market, the government took the chance to seize power. At the time, they provided an option for seniors to get health care through taxation of the working. Most seniors today will say that they love Medicare, but they don't actively pay a bill (it was already paid through their working lives), the program is bankrupt, and it threatens to leave those who already paid for the program without coverage in the future because of the mismanagement of the government. That's a fact.

If you pay for a service to be rendered in the future, are you ignorant or hypocritical when you get to the age to use the service you paid for even though you criticize the program itself? I'm critical of the system and I've been paying in all my life because the system has a good chance of taking my money and not providing me ANY service I paid for. You can't understand why that isn't hypocrisy? That's called government mismanagement and greed of our politicians.

This is also the same boat as Social Security. The government spent all your money you put into that program. If you invest in a 401K or an IRA and the company you invest in doesn't give you back your money you invested, they go to jail (not really, the Government protects these big businesses now). If you pay into Social Security and Medicare and don't get the money and services promised, your representative gets reelected and praised by the Democrats. I'm glad there are now free-market options for these programs, but Medicare still does not have one. I wish those entering into the job market today would have the option to save for their own retirement and healthcare needs, or decide to go with a government plan. That would be a step in the right direction. A step in the wrong direction is what you're asking for - government-owned healthcare for all.
 

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Did Hitler support socialized medicine? NO! Did he support nationalization of industry? Yes to benefit the war machine. Did he support free education? Only for those that were worthy and met his racist ideals. And wait you don't support free education? Did he support wealth confiscation? Yes but not to benefit the masses. Only to benefit those who were in his inner circle and the most devout in the NAZI party. Did he support crushing totalitarianism (which is where your lip-service applies, as this notion of “community ownership” quickly transforms into “oppressive government control”)? NO in fact he took full advantage of it.

Establishing a totalitarian state

Totalitarianism is a form of government that controls every aspect of individuals' lives. Under Hitler, the Nazis tried to take total control of Germany through a range of measures:
  • crushing of opposition
  • fear and state terrorism
  • social controls
  • propaganda
  • successful foreign policy
  • economic policies
  • social policies
The graphic below illustrates some of these key measures.

Did he support the confiscation of guns? Yes.

Where did he differ from the socialist of yesteryear and today? The only way I see is the emphasis on the extermination of Jews, which neither socialism or capitalism claims to be a central platform, but only one system allowed to thrive. Well you're wrong. Not sure what else to say about that. Do you see Sweden, Denmark and other socialist countries doing what Hitler did?
 

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I'm going to suggest you avoid beating your chest about how intelligent you are. Take that advice or leave it, it doesn't matter to me.

Nobody is "anti health care". Whether you realize it or not, Medicare is funded by the taxes you and I pay throughout our working years. When we get to retirement age, the health insurance you and I purchased through our employer is no longer available to us. Therefore, we must turn to an alternative. That's the way the system worked for many years, but there was no alternative years ago. I understand how medicare works. If you are fortunate to have insurance provided by an employer good for you. Many are not. I believe that the wealthiest country on earth should never see any of it's citizens lose their homes because they were unfortunate enough to get sick and accrue massive health bills.

Therefore, instead of relying on the free market, the government took the chance to seize power. At the time, they provided an option for seniors to get health care through taxation of the working. Most seniors today will say that they love Medicare, but they don't actively pay a bill (it was already paid through their working lives), the program is bankrupt, and it threatens to leave those who already paid for the program without coverage in the future because of the mismanagement of the government. That's a fact. Its not there yet but it is close. Forcasted to run out in 2024. Mismanagement or price gouging at by hospitals, doctors, pharma, insurance or any combination of the four? That is the question.

If you pay for a service to be rendered in the future, are you ignorant or hypocritical when you get to the age to use the service you paid for even though you criticize the program itself? I'm critical of the system and I've been paying in all my life because the system has a good chance of taking my money and not providing me ANY service I paid for. You can't understand why that isn't hypocrisy? That's called government mismanagement and greed of our politicians. You can be critical...you just shouldn't be hypocritical. What's to say that we can't have medicare for all if we only can agree to work together to get there? Problem is.... it has become politicized and we all know that nobody wins in that situation except those at the very top of the pile who it benefits most. Do you really think Insurance companies, doctors, big pharma and hospitals want to see people have a health care system that works for everyone but isn't mega-profitable? IMHO if you support medicare for the elderly you should support it for all, especially for those less fortunate.

This is also the same boat as Social Security. The government spent all your money you put into that program. If you invest in a 401K or an IRA and the company you invest in doesn't give you back your money you invested, they go to jail (not really, the Government protects these big businesses now). If you pay into Social Security and Medicare and don't get the money and services promised, your representative gets reelected and praised by the Democrats. I'm glad there are now free-market options for these programs, but Medicare still does not have one. I wish those entering into the job market today would have the option to save for their own retirement and healthcare needs, or decide to go with a government plan. That would be a step in the right direction. A step in the wrong direction is what you're asking for - government-owned healthcare for all. Agreed... SS is f**&ed. But why? because the govt. is trying to F*** us or..
The Problem With Social Security
So what’s the problem? Basically, demographics.


Americans are having fewer children and living longer, both of which contribute to an aging population. Baby boomers (those born between 1946 and 1964) are retiring at a record pace. As of 2018, 16% of the population is age 65 and over, and by 2060 it is estimated that it will rise to 23%.7 8 At the same time, the working-age population will be getting smaller, from about 62% today to 57% in 2060.9 Less paying in... More taking out. Something needs to be done but of course gridlock in congress is keeping a lot of that from happening. However...

Possible Solutions​

Fortunately, that’s a worst-case scenario. Social Security is nowhere near bankruptcy, and it has nearly two decades to act before funds are completely depleted. Increased taxes (including raising the income level after which no more taxes are due), benefit cuts, and upping the age at which people can start collecting benefits (66 in 2020 but rising to 67 by 2026) are all changes that, alone or in concert, could be implemented to make up any future shortfalls. Hopefully people can put apart the partisan divide and get the ship righted. I don't care who gets to take credit for it.
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Send the Antifa BA to Cuba. The Republicans Need to start the 1861 project in our Schools to Tell the truth about the rat ass Democrats Attack on Fort Sumter and It’s treasonous response to Lincoln’s EO to End Slavery. The real reason they won’t Stand is they want to serve for the confederate states Flag or George Soros Version of the KKK flag

BC you Need fact checked. Bye the way so you’re saying the Flag burning is over Grams and gramps Health Care?
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I think he would fully support all welfare/ social safety net/helping the needy programs.

Of all forms of govt I'd say he would choose socialism or communism over capitalism.

Capitalism is all about ME ME ME, not really a thing Jesus is down with.
I don't think he'd be for any government. I mean the tax collector was evil. Tell everyone how they should be and let them decide.
 

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I don't think he'd be for any government. I mean the tax collector was evil. Tell everyone how they should be and let them decide.
If we are being honest, Jesus was probably a dumbass. Think about the average intelligence of someone during that time period...complete idiots.
 
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Jim14510

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If we are being honest, Jesus was probably a dumbass. Think about the average intelligence of someone during that time period...complete idiots.
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