Using the terrorists own video, the full Capitol coup attempted is pieced together

scopeandtime

Nebraska Football Hall of Fame
Gold Member
Jul 3, 2016
18,514
32,679
113
So, should the Police have defended the Capital by shooting every one of the people found inside the building?
Of course not. They should have had the National Guard surround the building and apprehended/charged/jailed anyone inside though. Missed opportunity, imo.
 

rgrachek

Head Coach
Gold Member
Dec 2, 2004
12,960
12,532
113
Nah Pubs didn't like "man-made global warming" because it scared them because 99% of scientists were in agreement. So Pubs buried their head in the sand and said all those scientists were wrong. Dems figured they could fool Pubs into buying into the science if we called it "climate change."

Pubs will be Pubs though and they will never get behind it. Until it's too late.
What are 99% of scientists in agreement of? I know what it is and I as an engineer and scientist are one of them (i.e. I agree with them), I'm just wondering whether you do.

Your story of why it was changed to "climate change" is complete bullshit, just made up crap.
 
  • Like
Reactions: countrybob

Huskermatt23

Graduate Assistant
Gold Member
Jan 11, 2017
5,473
11,157
113
Seattle
And to imagine that you guys say that people on the right are off the rails! Another one of your narratives for the 2022 elections. This is the Russia probe of 2021.

What happened on January 6 was a protest gone bad, a bunch of unarmed middle aged people losing their shit. It wasn't a coordinated insurrection or a coup attempt, as something like that would have been VERY different and frankly would have led to hundreds or thousands of dead people and many other actions in other places simultaneously.

In a real coup, the military would have been involved on the side of the people organizing the coup. A real coup would have resulted in people like Schumer, Pelosi, and all of the squad dead. The military would have seized power in all of the states at the same time.

You guys watched cities being firebombed all year last year and didn't say a word about it. The BLM people and their enablers in the government (congress) call for the complete dissociation and reconstruction of this country in their likeness. They bash the constitution and call all of our institutions bastions of white supremacy. They do all of this and you say nothing, but a bunch of middle aged people running around in the capitol causes you to lose your shit. You people make me sick.
Apparently you didn’t watch it, otherwise you would see everything you just said was false
 

Jhollenbeck41

Graduate Assistant
Gold Member
Nov 29, 2018
5,441
8,530
113
Put a Biden shirt on and let me know how you feel about the crazies.

For honesty, same could be said for the wacko far left also.
All they’d do is yell insults and yell “Trump 2020” or “the election was stolen!” Great cool yeah just trying to get some groceries can you hop outta the way please?

both sides has their complete and total morons
 
  • Like
Reactions: nelsonj22

maggs

Recruiting Coordinator
Gold Member
Dec 4, 2001
6,393
4,324
113
Coup? Really? What, were the insurrectionists going to take over the government by swinging their flags around in a very violent manner? Dumbasses? Without a doubt. Coup? Nope.
 

rgrachek

Head Coach
Gold Member
Dec 2, 2004
12,960
12,532
113
As with most of your posts, only the words that you've left visible just prior to hitting the "enter" key.
You literally can't point out anything specifically. Therefore, you think that nothing I said was false. OK.
 

Huskermatt23

Graduate Assistant
Gold Member
Jan 11, 2017
5,473
11,157
113
Seattle
No dude! Be specific. Quote me and tell me why it's false.

Oh wait, you can't. But we all knew that already.

You guys are total morons.
Dude you are the only moron in this conversation, you were the guy defending children getting brain damage in football. But here you go:

“This is the Russia probe of 2021.” Except in this situation the whole world saw it with their own eyes

“What happened on January 6 was a protest gone bad a bunch of unarmed middle aged people losing their shit.” Except the video evidence shows otherwise, there was a coordinated effort by groups to storm the capitol, while some of them were morons that were used as lemmings, many within the mob were on a mission.

“It wasn't a coordinated insurrection or a coup attempt, as something like that would have been VERY different and frankly would have led to hundreds or thousands of dead people and many other actions in other places simultaneously.” Except the video evidence that those dummies recorded show otherwise

“In a real coup, the military would have been involved on the side of the people organizing the coup. A real coup would have resulted in people like Schumer, Pelosi, and all of the squad dead. The military would have seized power in all of the states at the same time.” There are plenty of examples throughout history where the military was not involved in a coup, however in this case the military was involved, as Trumpers within the military were participants as shown in their own video clips… again you must have not watched any of this. Also Trumpers in high levels of the military delayed national guard coming to stop the coup attempt.

“You guys watched cities being firebombed all year last year and didn't say a word about it. The BLM people and their enablers in the government (congress) call for the complete dissociation and reconstruction of this country in their likeness. They bash the constitution and call all of our institutions bastions of white supremacy. They do all of this and you say nothing, but a bunch of middle aged people running around in the capitol causes you to lose your shit. You people make me sick.” None of these people attempted to overthrow our government, and any criminal activity should result in people going to jail.

there you go, you moron. Hope I answered your questions specifically like you asked
 

IowaHuskerFan3

Recruiting Coordinator
Gold Member
Jun 7, 2007
6,037
4,547
113
They should of started shooting them on the steps and we wouldn't have continued being the laughing stock of the world after the last 4 years.
Got news for ya Nelson the world is still laughing with Biden or whoever is calling the shots
 
  • Like
Reactions: nelsonj22

franzix

Senior
Gold Member
Aug 25, 2003
2,062
2,332
113
No dude! Be specific. Quote me and tell me why it's false.

Oh wait, you can't. But we all knew that already.

You guys are total morons.

Randall,

Please just watch the video. There were at least ten different breaches of the capital building (by my count on the video), and very few of them had "capital police escort them on to the premises." I've seen the footage of it happening, and I'm sure it's not coincidence that NYT left those clips out, but I think it's probably good to take the events in their entirety.

I know you're probably busy, but you can start at around the 10:13 mark to see when the violence begins, and end at around the 38:15 mark to see just the major violence and final clearing of the grounds. I'd provide a link to the video starting at that time, but all of the formatting buttons are currently greyed out in this browser window.

So, if you've got 15 minutes to spare, watch from 10:13 to 38:15 on 2x speed. You'll see where your later posts about nobody pointing out where you were wrong were actually wrong.
 

rgrachek

Head Coach
Gold Member
Dec 2, 2004
12,960
12,532
113
Randall,

Please just watch the video. There were at least ten different breaches of the capital building (by my count on the video), and very few of them had "capital police escort them on to the premises." I've seen the footage of it happening, and I'm sure it's not coincidence that NYT left those clips out, but I think it's probably good to take the events in their entirety.

I know you're probably busy, but you can start at around the 10:13 mark to see when the violence begins, and end at around the 38:15 mark to see just the major violence and final clearing of the grounds. I'd provide a link to the video starting at that time, but all of the formatting buttons are currently greyed out in this browser window.

So, if you've got 15 minutes to spare, watch from 10:13 to 38:15 on 2x speed. You'll see where your later posts about nobody pointing out where you were wrong were actually wrong.
Man, no one has ever disputed that people broke into the capitol and that there may have been some violence or threats of violence. But in an attempt to paint this as something that it was not though, the leftists on this forum are trying to create a notion that there's some coordinated movement to overthrow the government in this country. There wasn't and there isn't.

The only effort in this regard is the current democratic power structure that's trying to overturn about everything good about this country pitting races against each other. It's not from a angry mob of Trump supporters on one day.

My ENTIRE point is that this was not a coordinated coup attempt masterminded by Trump or anyone else in power. It was an angry mob that went bad. There was no coordination nationwide, no attempt to squelch the media, no actual direct threats to the lives of the people in power. It was a demonstration that went too far and had some incendiary rhetoric.

The irony is that this type of protesting gone bad seems to be OK in America if it forwards a leftist agenda (riots, Kavanaugh hearings, etc.). We have to be sensitive to the people firebombing people's businesses because of the grievances that they have. But somehow this doesn't apply to people on the right who feel, right or wrong, that they have been cheated. These people get treated very differently and worse yet, a narrative is created that anyone who has the same color skin as these people must be an insurrectionist.

What you saw on January 6 was a major blow off of steam that has been accumulating for years of people being told that because of the color of their skin, they are racists, people who have seen their lives turned upside down by globalization and hedge-fund destruction. I have a deep and honest fear that if this bullshit continues there's going to be something happen that makes last year's riots and January 6 look like a walk in the park.

There's about one half of the country who sees their way of life being taken from them in the name of race, climate change, globalization, and the formation of a permanent ruling class. It's really doesn't matter whether you think that they're wrong or should crawl in a hole and die. They're not going to do that, they are going to rebel big time unless our leadership wises up.
 

jw.3

Nebraska Football Hall of Fame
Gold Member
Dec 5, 2013
17,720
69,348
113
Nothing like the video clips coming directly from the traitors of America to dispel all the fake news coming from the right about the attempted coup

Facts that are shown:

1. Trump and his supporters attempted to overthrow the government and kill elected officials
2. Blue lives don’t matter to the right
3. Laws don’t matter to the right
4. people died because of Trump and his supporters
5. Republicans are stuck lying to keep tards in their camp
6. it was a coordinated effort to overthrow the government
7. Trump encouraged the efforts and didn’t attempt to stop it

Great 45 minute watch for all you who are confused about what happened.

saw both Hank and jw.3 LARPing near the outskirts of the fracas in quite a few shots! still not sure why Hank had his wrestling headgear on during this protest
 
  • Like
Reactions: scopeandtime

Jhollenbeck41

Graduate Assistant
Gold Member
Nov 29, 2018
5,441
8,530
113
Man, no one has ever disputed that people broke into the capitol and that there may have been some violence or threats of violence. But in an attempt to paint this as something that it was not though, the leftists on this forum are trying to create a notion that there's some coordinated movement to overthrow the government in this country. There wasn't and there isn't.

The only effort in this regard is the current democratic power structure that's trying to overturn about everything good about this country pitting races against each other. It's not from a angry mob of Trump supporters on one day.

My ENTIRE point is that this was not a coordinated coup attempt masterminded by Trump or anyone else in power. It was an angry mob that went bad. There was no coordination nationwide, no attempt to squelch the media, no actual direct threats to the lives of the people in power. It was a demonstration that went too far and had some incendiary rhetoric.

The irony is that this type of protesting gone bad seems to be OK in America if it forwards a leftist agenda (riots, Kavanaugh hearings, etc.). We have to be sensitive to the people firebombing people's businesses because of the grievances that they have. But somehow this doesn't apply to people on the right who feel, right or wrong, that they have been cheated. These people get treated very differently and worse yet, a narrative is created that anyone who has the same color skin as these people must be an insurrectionist.

What you saw on January 6 was a major blow off of steam that has been accumulating for years of people being told that because of the color of their skin, they are racists, people who have seen their lives turned upside down by globalization and hedge-fund destruction. I have a deep and honest fear that if this bullshit continues there's going to be something happen that makes last year's riots and January 6 look like a walk in the park.

There's about one half of the country who sees their way of life being taken from them in the name of race, climate change, globalization, and the formation of a permanent ruling class. It's really doesn't matter whether you think that they're wrong or should crawl in a hole and die. They're not going to do that, they are going to rebel big time unless our leadership wises up.
This. This is why we're no longer "The United" States of America. The left expects you to bow down and do things their way in the name of inclusion and not hurting feelings or else you're a shit hole of a person. Until someone in the middle wins some races and takes concepts from both sides into account and lets the citizens decide what they want to do without forcing everything from one side or the other, we will never again be the "United" States of America.
 

rgrachek

Head Coach
Gold Member
Dec 2, 2004
12,960
12,532
113
Dude you are the only moron in this conversation, you were the guy defending children getting brain damage in football. But here you go:

“This is the Russia probe of 2021.” Except in this situation the whole world saw it with their own eyes

“What happened on January 6 was a protest gone bad a bunch of unarmed middle aged people losing their shit.” Except the video evidence shows otherwise, there was a coordinated effort by groups to storm the capitol, while some of them were morons that were used as lemmings, many within the mob were on a mission.

“It wasn't a coordinated insurrection or a coup attempt, as something like that would have been VERY different and frankly would have led to hundreds or thousands of dead people and many other actions in other places simultaneously.” Except the video evidence that those dummies recorded show otherwise

“In a real coup, the military would have been involved on the side of the people organizing the coup. A real coup would have resulted in people like Schumer, Pelosi, and all of the squad dead. The military would have seized power in all of the states at the same time.” There are plenty of examples throughout history where the military was not involved in a coup, however in this case the military was involved, as Trumpers within the military were participants as shown in their own video clips… again you must have not watched any of this. Also Trumpers in high levels of the military delayed national guard coming to stop the coup attempt.

“You guys watched cities being firebombed all year last year and didn't say a word about it. The BLM people and their enablers in the government (congress) call for the complete dissociation and reconstruction of this country in their likeness. They bash the constitution and call all of our institutions bastions of white supremacy. They do all of this and you say nothing, but a bunch of middle aged people running around in the capitol causes you to lose your shit. You people make me sick.” None of these people attempted to overthrow our government, and any criminal activity should result in people going to jail.

there you go, you moron. Hope I answered your questions specifically like you asked
You didn't answer anything dipshit. Just added some aimless rantings to my good points. I'll give you credit however for trying. Most of your cohorts are cowards.

Except in this situation the whole world saw it with their own eyes JFC, it was a comparison to one attempt to create a political issue for the mid-terms with another. You really don't get it do you!

Except the video evidence shows otherwise, there was a coordinated effort by groups to storm the capitol, while some of them were morons that were used as lemmings, many within the mob were on a mission. Every mob is on a mission. What, were they going to take over the government with their flag poles? God this is dumb.

Except the video evidence that those dummies recorded show otherwise I missed the video evidence of a coordinated national effort to overthrow the government, taking out the media and putting other people in charge. Who was slated to be the new SOTH? New Senate majority leader? Which of the protestors was tasked with being the new leader of the military. You're premise is ridiculous. Just because someone says something inflammatory, it doesn't make it a movement.

There are plenty of examples throughout history where the military was not involved in a coup, however in this case the military was involved, as Trumpers within the military were participants as shown in their own video clips… again you must have not watched any of this. Also Trumpers in high levels of the military delayed national guard coming to stop the coup attempt. Name a coup attempt that didn't involve the military. Who were the "high level" people who delayed the national guard being deployed? Have they been arrested? It was pretty clear that the Mayor of DC didn't want the National Guard. What a load!

None of these people attempted to overthrow our government, and any criminal activity should result in people going to jail. Good God, the entire BLM movement and their enablers in the Congress and now in the White House are trying to overthrow our government. They say that our system is racist, dominated by White Supremacy, and needs to be scrapped for something different. Where the hell have you been the past several years?
 

cavalot

Head Coach
Gold Member
Oct 3, 2003
12,643
9,315
113
They took over a group of unarmed people in a tight space with box cutters. Due to people not acting, the terrorists took over a larger weapon, the airplane.

If the guards had guns at the capital, and the terrorists used their flags to acquire the guns. Then the terrorists used the guns to wreck more havoc, that would then be an accurate comparison.

People should just stand up for what they believe, and if we have to fight for what we believe, then so be it.
So you are validating their belief that Trump actually won and the election was stolen. You are saying that what they did was justifiable because they believed in a proven lie.

Wow
 

cavalot

Head Coach
Gold Member
Oct 3, 2003
12,643
9,315
113
Nothing like the video clips coming directly from the traitors of America to dispel all the fake news coming from the right about the attempted coup

Facts that are shown:

1. Trump and his supporters attempted to overthrow the government and kill elected officials
2. Blue lives don’t matter to the right
3. Laws don’t matter to the right
4. people died because of Trump and his supporters
5. Republicans are stuck lying to keep tards in their camp
6. it was a coordinated effort to overthrow the government
7. Trump encouraged the efforts and didn’t attempt to stop it

Great 45 minute watch for all you who are confused about what happened.

The first two minutes of that pisses me off.
 

Jaemekon

Graduate Assistant
Gold Member
Apr 23, 2007
5,302
5,075
113
So you are validating their belief that Trump actually won and the election was stolen. You are saying that what they did was justifiable because they believed in a proven lie.

Wow

I didn't realize that was what I was saying. But this is obviously your interpretation. I honestly didn't think any of those things.

Mostly just saying that if we are going to compare shit, then let's be accurate about it.

And it is better to have your own personal belief system that matters to you. I have my own beliefs that don't typically line up with mainstream. I purposely do this.

As you have found out from past comments of mine, I am completely ignorant on things that most people would consider common knowledge. Like that rich pervert guy that everyone talks about.

If something or someone becomes very popular, I go out of my way to not know anything about it.

My belief, is that it is hilarious when I don't know common pop culture crap.

fad2e7a3-cc4f-4c4e-8b23-c74c2e4bc3f0_text.gif
 

Jaemekon

Graduate Assistant
Gold Member
Apr 23, 2007
5,302
5,075
113
Nothing like the video clips coming directly from the traitors of America to dispel all the fake news coming from the right about the attempted coup

Facts that are shown:

1. Trump and his supporters attempted to overthrow the government and kill elected officials
2. Blue lives don’t matter to the right
3. Laws don’t matter to the right
4. people died because of Trump and his supporters
5. Republicans are stuck lying to keep tards in their camp
6. it was a coordinated effort to overthrow the government
7. Trump encouraged the efforts and didn’t attempt to stop it

Great 45 minute watch for all you who are confused about what happened.


It's not that I don't know what happened, because I've seen some of the videos.

It's that the story has become worn down by overplay. It's like the college football playoff, why watch? I already know who will be there, and it's not any teams I like.

I just don't care. Our government should have shown strength, didn't, now they look stupid.
 

rgrachek

Head Coach
Gold Member
Dec 2, 2004
12,960
12,532
113
This. This is why we're no longer "The United" States of America. The left expects you to bow down and do things their way in the name of inclusion and not hurting feelings or else you're a shit hole of a person. Until someone in the middle wins some races and takes concepts from both sides into account and lets the citizens decide what they want to do without forcing everything from one side or the other, we will never again be the "United" States of America.
I agree to a point, but the answer isn't always in compromise. There are some things that you can't compromise on. Your right to speak out without retribution from the government, your right to defend yourself, your right to the pursuit of happiness and economic/social freedom. The problem is that the things that the Democrats are extreme about are things that target our basic freedoms and take us down a path to economic disaster. People on the left always claim that Republican economic policies are "unfair" but they almost never make the case that these policies take us off the financial cliff, or if they do, it's just a political speak.

Something has changed during the past 30 years though and it started with the Clintons. It was the movement of liberals away from their traditional roots of live and let live, a social safety net, and the defense of the working person. Most people agree with these premises.

Now, the modern left is totally authoritarian, beholden to wall street, creepy people who are really wealthy and want control of things too, and China/Europe. They, and some republicans, are all in on this globalist agenda and in many ways don't really give a damn about the people that they used to champion.

THIS IS WHY WE GOT TRUMP, and the democrats used a pandemic, stoking racial tension, and some creative voting methods to get him out. But did you ever think about the fact that while Trump lost, the Republicans actually picked up seats in the house? Sure, the Republicans lost seats in the Senate, but that was mainly because there were many more Republican Senate seats up for grabs and then there was the amazing thing in Georgia where you had an unexplained massive vote shift in 2 runoffs (one of those seats will be back in the Republican column in 2022 when Hershel Walker runs against Warnock).

The democrats hold on power is razors edge fragile and it will evaporate in November 2022. People tend to not like it when you bring millions of illegal immigrants into America to replace them.
 

Jhollenbeck41

Graduate Assistant
Gold Member
Nov 29, 2018
5,441
8,530
113
I agree to a point, but the answer isn't always in compromise. There are some things that you can't compromise on. Your right to speak out without retribution from the government, your right to defend yourself, your right to the pursuit of happiness and economic/social freedom. The problem is that the things that the Democrats are extreme about are things that target our basic freedoms and take us down a path to economic disaster. People on the left always claim that Republican economic policies are "unfair" but they almost never make the case that these policies take us off the financial cliff, or if they do, it's just a political speak.

Something has changed during the past 30 years though and it started with the Clintons. It was the movement of liberals away from their traditional roots of live and let live, a social safety net, and the defense of the working person. Most people agree with these premises.

Now, the modern left is totally authoritarian, beholden to wall street, creepy people who are really wealthy and want control of things too, and China/Europe. They, and some republicans, are all in on this globalist agenda and in many ways don't really give a damn about the people that they used to champion.

THIS IS WHY WE GOT TRUMP, and the democrats used a pandemic, stoking racial tension, and some creative voting methods to get him out. But did you ever think about the fact that while Trump lost, the Republicans actually picked up seats in the house? Sure, the Republicans lost seats in the Senate, but that was mainly because there were many more Republican Senate seats up for grabs and then there was the amazing thing in Georgia where you had an unexplained massive vote shift in 2 runoffs (one of those seats will be back in the Republican column in 2022 when Hershel Walker runs against Warnock).

The democrats hold on power is razors edge fragile and it will evaporate in November 2022. People tend to not like it when you bring millions of illegal immigrants into America to replace them.
Yeah, I agree with pretty much everything you said but I'm just under 30 years old.

I guess I didn't mean compromise, I meant more of like pulling different concepts from each side that make sense and putting them together. Like, hey, you have every right to defend yourself, but does it make sense for the average Joe to own a bazooka and a basement full of grenades? Probably not, that's weird. Freedom of speech? Absolutely, but maybe don't call people racial slurs as that's very wrong. Instead of defunding the police, add more funds and include social workers for cases like suicide prevention or someone with a mental disorder causing a disturbance, but with police involved on the scene to a certain extent. If someone is trying to jump off a bridge, I assume it adds a little tension to be talking to a guy with a gun in plain sight. I know many cops have talked people off the ledge before, and I'm not saying it doesn't work, but let's ease the tension a little. Have cops maybe 40 yards in the background once the subject is off the bridge.


I'm not into feelings by the way, I'm into common sense and action.
 
  • Like
Reactions: nelsonj22

rgrachek

Head Coach
Gold Member
Dec 2, 2004
12,960
12,532
113
Yeah, I agree with pretty much everything you said but I'm just under 30 years old.

I guess I didn't mean compromise, I meant more of like pulling different concepts from each side that make sense and putting them together. Like, hey, you have every right to defend yourself, but does it make sense for the average Joe to own a bazooka and a basement full of grenades? Probably not, that's weird. Freedom of speech? Absolutely, but maybe don't call people racial slurs as that's very wrong. Instead of defunding the police, add more funds and include social workers for cases like suicide prevention or someone with a mental disorder causing a disturbance, but with police involved on the scene to a certain extent. If someone is trying to jump off a bridge, I assume it adds a little tension to be talking to a guy with a gun in plain sight. I know many cops have talked people off the ledge before, and I'm not saying it doesn't work, but let's ease the tension a little. Have cops maybe 40 yards in the background once the subject is off the bridge.


I'm not into feelings by the way, I'm into common sense and action.
I hear you and on things like the budget, compromise is appropriate. I think that one of the problems is the degree of misconception out there. For example:

You made the case that while people have the right to bear arms, that they shouldn't have a bazooka or grenades. But that's not what the debate is about. It's already illegal to have these kinds of weapons and no 2nd amendment advocate is trying to make them legal. It's all about the idea on the left of disarming people completely. The problem is that it's a slow iterative process that the left uses to get to disarming the population.

On your second example, I disagree. You either have free speech or you don't and the government cannot and should not infringe on this, otherwise the logical conclusion is the current government banning speech of their opponents. However, you should always assume the risks of damage you cause to yourself from the marketplace or from private citizens based on what you say, because that's their freedom.

As far as the social worker vs. the police, what you are saying is great in concept, but after the first social worker is gunned down by someone standing on a bridge with a concealed weapon, then the whole thing falls apart. The call the Police to handle these types of situations because they are inherently unstable and unpredictable. The social worker can be effective in stable environments where people need help, but a case where someone needs to be talked down from the brink is too risky.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jaemekon

Jhollenbeck41

Graduate Assistant
Gold Member
Nov 29, 2018
5,441
8,530
113
I hear you and on things like the budget, compromise is appropriate. I think that one of the problems is the degree of misconception out there. For example:

You made the case that while people have the right to bear arms, that they shouldn't have a bazooka or grenades. But that's not what the debate is about. It's already illegal to have these kinds of weapons and no 2nd amendment advocate is trying to make them legal. It's all about the idea on the left of disarming people completely. The problem is that it's a slow iterative process that the left uses to get to disarming the population.

On your second example, I disagree. You either have free speech or you don't and the government cannot and should not infringe on this, otherwise the logical conclusion is the current government banning speech of their opponents. However, you should always assume the risks of damage you cause to yourself from the marketplace or from private citizens based on what you say, because that's their freedom.

As far as the social worker vs. the police, what you are saying is great in concept, but after the first social worker is gunned down by someone standing on a bridge with a concealed weapon, then the whole thing falls apart. The call the Police to handle these types of situations because they are inherently unstable and unpredictable. The social worker can be effective in stable environments where people need help, but a case where someone needs to be talked down from the brink is too risky.
Full disclosure, I don't like government having their hands in much of anything to be honest. There are probably examples I can think of later that I'm cool with them doing, like taxes, part of life, whatever. But for the most part, I know right from wrong, I'm no one special, let me do me and be happy. Others can do the same.


1. I'm not saying they shouldn't have bazookas or grenades. I just think it's dumb and you can probably buy other cool, more rational weapons other than bazookas or grenades. Can't just walk into a gun range with a bazooka and expect that to fly. Buy an AR instead and enjoy your afternoon at the range or farm or ranch or wherever you shoot it responsibly. That's all I'm saying there. I'm very pro 2A.


2. I don't think the government should have any say in your freedom of speech, absolutely agree. I'm more saying, know right from what with what you say, and understand the consequences from what you say whether that's good or bad. But, no, no censorship.


3. Agreed. I think my example is more of a perfect world kind of example where people are stable even if they're getting ready to commit suicide, which we both know doesn't exist. I can see a social worker being sent into the most minor of situations where risk if low, but I do still think there needs to be a police presence regardless.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jaemekon

jbskers

Athletic Director
Gold Member
May 29, 2001
13,645
3,961
113
You are so full of crap! It was changed to climate change because the left couldn't explain the times when temperature goes down.


From 1895 to around 1935, we had a warming trend (Before all of this carbon was supposedly being thrown into the air). Then from 1935 to 1972, we had a cooling trend (WWII and heavy industrialization). Since 1972, we have had a warming trend that looks like it may have peaked around 2011. The average temperature can fluctuate more than 2 degrees from one year to the next. We have no idea what the temperature levels were reliably before the late 1800s.

The most interesting thing though is that we experienced the most recent cooling trend during a time when there were almost NO environmental controls on emissions and air pollution (particulate and carbon) was at uncontrolled levels. Prior to the CAA in the 70s, you could barely see and breath sometimes in many of the industrial cities or in Southern California.

The left hates this because if we have another cooling trend, that undermines all of the cause/effect models pushed by the left. So we need to call it climate change so they can attribute any change in temperature, any storm, even illegal immigrant migration to carbon outputs.

The climate change fanatics would never do anything to appease Republicans.
you are arguing with a person who has been wrong on every single subject.
it's truly pointless
Only person who jumps for hoaxes twice is scopeandtime
 
  • Love
Reactions: scopeandtime

stevehammer

Graduate Assistant
Gold Member
Sep 18, 2001
5,722
6,078
113
This would have been the first time in history a country was taken over by an unarmed group of citizens. You would think a country as large as and powerful as the USA could defend itself. The whole world is laughing at us when we call this an attempted coup. Seriously unarmed small group of idiots take over the government.
God, you Trumpies are so fvcking dumb. No, those idiots weren't going to "take over the country" on January 6. What they were trying to do was disrupt the certification of Biden as President to try to set up some way for Trump to claim that he won the election. Miss the January 6 deadline and then try and go to the Supreme Court and get them to say, "too bad, so sad, Joe, Trump is still President." It was the first step in an attempt to try and keep Trump in office. Jesus you people are incredibly stupid.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TOMHP

Cornmaker

Blackshirt
Gold Member
Nov 26, 2007
3,291
3,595
113
This is a retard thread! If the protesters had wanted to kill people they could have. The police killed a protester.
 

Lar Gand

Blackshirt
Gold Member
May 6, 2012
3,027
3,072
113
This is a retard thread! If the protesters had wanted to kill people they could have. The police killed a protester.

Crossed the path from protester to terrorist after she violently forced her way into our Nations Capitol, not stopping there but continuing on, bashing through doors that were barricaded with the intention being to protect our politicians as well as proprietary classified records from said violent terrorists.
 

EriktheRed

Offensive Coordinator
Gold Member
Jul 1, 2001
8,271
7,058
113
Crossed the path from protester to terrorist after she violently forced her way into our Nations Capitol, not stopping there but continuing on, bashing through doors that were barricaded with the intention being to protect our politicians as well as proprietary classified records from said violent terrorists.
Did you make up her motive there? How do you know that? Is that your super power? You seem to have no other powers so maybe that's your one. No common sense, but can read people's motives.
 

jbskers

Athletic Director
Gold Member
May 29, 2001
13,645
3,961
113
Crossed the path from protester to terrorist after she violently forced her way into our Nations Capitol, not stopping there but continuing on, bashing through doors that were barricaded with the intention being to protect our politicians as well as proprietary classified records from said violent terrorists.
this is what a brainwashed moron looks like.......
 

Latest posts