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US Soccer team could learn a lot from this woman

At least this board had the decency not to hijack an event that was not theirs to promote its views.

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well, we wanted to play football last year, which, according to the spineless/dickless/brainless/insanely lame b1g was an unwelcome view promoted during an event that wasn't ours (covid)
 
No govt can force a citizen (outside of the military) to take the vaccine. However, schools have been requiring certain vaccines for attendance for as long as my kids have attended. I have had to get some shots over the years to travel. I certainly hope that businesses and other private entities (such as the NFL, NBA, major college sports) step up and require vaccines to enter their premises.
I'm all for vaccines for major viruses that affect children, but Covid just isn't one of those and until it has time to be studied a little more in depth, there isn't a chance in hell I would give it to my kids. If you are over 60, you should probably get the vaccine, if you are above 30 probably with some health issues I would say get the vaccine, but there needs to be some evidence that this virus does harm to young healthy people before we get so buck wild mandating a vaccine.

The stats have shown that this virus predominately kills older folks, obese folks, folks lacking vitamin D and those who have serious underlying conditions. This virus is not like a lot of the other major vaccines where it will affect most no matter your condition (including children).
 
Good gravy, can you answer the answer the question? IF you think the masks work, why does it take the government to tell you to wear the mask before you will do it? You WANT the masks and vaccines to be required, and you will be a good soldier and wear one IF you are told to do so by the government. If you genuinely care about your fellow Americans, just wear the mask, period. I take it if the government mandated that everyone always had to wear a mask because there is some chance it will help prevent the spread of the flu, you would gleefully endorse it. Amiright? And what about the vaccine question. Should every American be required by the government to take a flu vaccine because there is a chance, even if only a small chance, that it will prevent just one more person on the planet from getting sick with the flu?

Focus on my questions when you answer.
If my Governor issues an indoor mask mandate, I will of course comply. I doubt that will happen. But it there is a substantial rise in cases, I may wear one when I'm indoors. I do not think my governor will mandate masking for the flu (of course an influenza pandemic would change that), but judicious use of masks in years where flu cases are high would be helpful. So youarewrong. More people should take the flu vaccine, but outside of a pandemic situation, I doubt there will be a govt mandate. Nor should there be.
These are all very reasonable positions, given the current circumstances.
 
Also, Covid is the only virus that I can think of where we are worrying about case rates instead of death. When the flu is hitting we aren't focused on how many have the flu, instead how many are dying from it. The same should be for Covid. The death numbers still remain somewhat low and yet you would think we are losing 4000 a day still. Nope, closer to the amount of Alzheimers death.
 
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78% of ICU patients over the course of covid have been obese in the US

if you want to know what would be helpful, start there instead of with masking

unless, of course, you care more about your narrative than the actual health of your fellow countrymen
 
Also, Covid is the only virus that I can think of where we are worrying about case rates instead of death. When the flu is hitting we aren't focused on how many have the flu, instead how many are dying from it. The same should be for Covid. The death numbers still remain somewhat low and yet you would think we are losing 4000 a day still. Nope, closer to the amount of Alzheimers death.
UC Davis - More than one in four COVID-19 patients develop long-haul symptoms lasting for months – even if they had mild cases, according to a handful of studies that have emerged recently.

 
UC Davis - More than one in four COVID-19 patients develop long-haul symptoms lasting for months – even if they had mild cases, according to a handful of studies that have emerged recently.

fatigue and shortness of breath are long-haul symptoms of the real pandemic we're suffering from in this country:

fatness
 
96% of those have been Vitamin D deficient.
In a study of 640 patients with self-reported long haul, 58 percent of respondents had at least one preexisting condition, the most common being asthma and vitamin D deficiency.
 
In a study of 640 patients with self-reported long haul, 58 percent of respondents had at least one preexisting condition, the most common being asthma and vitamin D deficiency.
Of the 216 patients, 19 were on vitamin D supplements and were analyzed separately. In COVID-19 patients, mean ± standard deviation 25OHD levels were 13.8 ± 7.2 ng/mL, compared with 20.9 ± 7.4 ng/mL in controls (P < .0001). 25OHD values were lower in men than in women. Vitamin D deficiency was found in 82.2% of COVID-19 cases and 47.2% of population-based controls (P < .0001).ts

Also, Dr. Rhonda Patrick is the one who had the study early on that suggested 96% of people infected at the time were Vitamin D deficient.
 
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Of the 216 patients, 19 were on vitamin D supplements and were analyzed separately. In COVID-19 patients, mean ± standard deviation 25OHD levels were 13.8 ± 7.2 ng/mL, compared with 20.9 ± 7.4 ng/mL in controls (P < .0001). 25OHD values were lower in men than in women. Vitamin D deficiency was found in 82.2% of COVID-19 cases and 47.2% of population-based controls (P < .0001).ts

Also, Dr. Rhonda Patrick is the one who had the study early on that suggested 96% of people infected at the time were Vitamin D deficient.
Were the people vitamin D deficient before they were infected?
 
If my Governor issues an indoor mask mandate, I will of course comply. I doubt that will happen. But it there is a substantial rise in cases, I may wear one when I'm indoors. I do not think my governor will mandate masking for the flu (of course an influenza pandemic would change that), but judicious use of masks in years where flu cases are high would be helpful. So youarewrong. More people should take the flu vaccine, but outside of a pandemic situation, I doubt there will be a govt mandate. Nor should there be.
These are all very reasonable positions, given the current circumstances.
You are "exhibit A" of why simply having a conversation with someone on the opposite side is becoming so damn difficult. You and your kind have such a hard time answering very basic questions. I'll try this one more time. 1) Is it correct that you think both vaccines and masks work (not just for covid, but for the flu too? 2) Because they work, you are all for those things being mandated OR you think everyone should go along with a mandate? 3) If you think masks and vaccines are a good thing, why don't you always do it (put another way, why must you be told to wear a mask before you will wear a mask)? Please answer these three questions.

Next, you use a number of qualifications when explaining your position. Who decides when it is "substantial," or "high," or "judicious?"
 
If cases were to substantially rise in WV, I will begin to wear a mask. If I think I've been exposed, I'll get a test.
It's interesting you're willing to risk the lives of those under the age of 12 just because you don't want to wear a mask.
 
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Masks only matter when you are within a close proximity to those people. If they are 25 miles away from you, you don't have to wear a mask.
He's making it sound like he's not currently wearing a mask when in close proximity to others since WV cases aren't at a high enough level.
 
The selfish SJWs differ with you in terms of what is embarrassing about the country. And are not particularly interested in listening to you tell them “shut up and (fill in the blank)”. Don’t like it, don’t watch.
Then they'll complain how they don't receive the same interest as the men.

If you try to make a lib happy, they're not going to like it. 🤣🤣🤣
 
I'm not wearing one now, but I see people who do. After the pandemic, the use of masks can be used to lessen the number of flu cases. Just as Covid spreads through asymptomatics, so does the flu. It would be helpful if folks who have family members ill with the flu wear a mask when they are indoors in crowded situations.
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They won’t, they be woke bitches that i hope loses bronze game
 
I beg to differ. This board has many patriots who attribute their opinions to common sense and a strong love of the nation and anyone who disagrees even slightly is a far left, idiot socialist bastard who should leave the country immediately.
Don't espouse socialist ideals and you won't be called one. I have a family member who grew up in a socialist country. She is horrified by the hard left turn this country has taken. We already have many socialist entitlement programs but we've headed to a level even Marx could have only dreamed of.
 
Of course the liberal idiot was talking about Trump's (eventually failed) attempt to mau mau the FDA into approving the vaccine, not the vaccine itself.
Trump did not fail at kicking the FDA and CDC in the ass to get a vaccine pumped out as quickly as possible. He in fact succeeded BIG time. Without his pressure we likely still wouldn't have one. Like it or not, you HAVE to give him some credit for that. I've dealt with federal agencies for over 30 years in my profession and they move at a snail's pace The federal bureaucracy is stuck in the 70s.
 
Were the people vitamin D deficient before they were infected?
You would need to do a study where you measured Vitamin D levels pre-exposure to be sure but common sense says they were Vitamin D deficient prior to being infected. Measuring Vitamin D levels in early infections should give you pretty accurate levels.
 
How about 7 feet?

6 feet?
Assuming he's vaccinated he has an excellent chance at not getting the virus or if he does get it, he will probably not have symptoms (no coughing = less contagious). So I wouldn't say he would have to, but if rules state or if he wants to, go for it. Doesn't bother me. In my mind, the issue is for unvaccinated people. Bryan hospital has 26 with COVID-- all unvaccinated. Two died last week.
 
Don't espouse socialist ideals and you won't be called one. I have a family member who grew up in a socialist country. She is horrified by the hard left turn this country has taken. We already have many socialist entitlement programs but we've headed to a level even Marx could have only dreamed of.
I'm assuming you are not calling me a socialist, right? It's totally appropriate to call a socialist a socialist, but terms like socialist and communist get commonly thrown around on this board. Either people don't know the meanings of those words (I guarantee you we've got politicians who don't) or they are just labeling others whom they disagree with in order to rile everyone up.

I do agree socialism is growing but some of those could be things people on the right like-- major increases in tariffs (from the "tariff man"), increased farm subsidies, taking away a Nebraskan's land to give to a foreign oil company (Keystone). Probably other examples (Social Security, etc). The point is that not all are bad. But clearly, coming from the pandemic, we've got to get a handle on some of this other stuff like not paying rent, paying people more not to work than to work and so on. That stuff is obvious and the far left is in many ways a centrist Democrats worst enemy and they will pay for it in the next election.
 
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