If the rules state it? Does the reason for the rule matter, or do you just trust those telling you what to do? What is the significance of 6 feet vs 5 or 7? I understood that I could be maskless around someone if 1) I stayed more than 6 feet away from them or 2) if I was within 6 feet of them, that i didnt stay there for more than 15 minutes. Am I good to be within the 6 foot zone of someone for 14 minutes? What is the efficacy of cloth masks?
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There was no science behind the 6 feet social distancing and it kind of came out of nowhere. The CDC had a recommended 3 foot buffer, but the 6 feet was just a phenomena that caught on.
I'll give you a like for simply admitting something the fringe elements of your "side" is for is bad news. Both sides need to do this more often and hopefully we can keep the fringe wackos in the shadows where they belong. Not dictating what we do.
The reason I have a disclaimer in my signature line.
I don't care if he wears a mask or not. Clearly you do if the rules state he must even after being vaccinated.
I'm sorry 2 people died, but 2 deaths (17 or so since beginning of April in Lancaster Count) doesn't validate mask wearing.
It's all relative. You could be around an infected person 14 minutes and be fine I suppose, but if they cough in your face all bets are off. It's a fluid situation (pardon the pun) though since they're still learning about variants. Cloth masks are better than nothing from what I hear.
Do I trust those telling me what to do? It depends. I listen to advice from experts in their field especially when the advice they give is universally accepted. I don't take financial advice from the guy who shines my shoes as the old story goes. I try my best to avoid listening to people who have an agenda. Both groups are telling us what to do. If someone bases what they say on what will give them more political support, popularity and ratings, I definitely tune them out.
My problem is that there is far too much censorship on social media and within the media itself. If Dr Joseph Varon here in Houston is saving tons of lives with his MATH+ protocols, why aren't they being shared? He has done about 1500 interviews and guest appearances on multiple regional, local and national news programs and we never once heard anything about his protocol. It was only discussed on social media, until it was blocked. He claims in an interview with Ivory Hecker on the website below that he mentions how he treats patients and every time that part is censored. Him using, less expensive and already existing, treatments and medicines then repurposing them for COVID, never gets on the air. Why is that? If a guy is having success and his research is peer reviewed, why wouldn't we use this instead of letting people die?
Take 15 minutes and watch the interview, if it doesn't cause you to ask yourself why, fine. But I ALWAYS hear people on the left talking about following the science and telling people to have an open mind. Let's see if that is a 2 way street.
But it isn't relative, not to the government or the "experts." You said "if the rules state it," suggesting you will do what the government tells you to do. The point being that our experts came up with a seemingly arbitrary 6 feet and 15 minutes rule. What in the hell? Why? The experts have been wrong, a lot, yet people lap that garbage up. Same with cloth masks.
Both groups are telling us what to do? How so? I see one group saying "you're going to do this or you will be prohibited from doing a lot of stuff" and one group saying "it's up to an individual to get the vaccine and they shouldn't be forced to do it."
If Dr. Varon was railing against the procedures he's doing or the meds he's using, it would be all over the news and not getting taken down.
All you have to do is look at Israel and England. Those countries are by and large fully vaccinated and still having cases. The vaccine is losing it's effectiveness. However, the case numbers in both of those countries are beginning to decline because of natural immunity. The data is out there, it is just tougher to find because of the censorship.
Image the absolute hysteria there would be in the media if this was happening under Trump. The vaccine hesitancy would be 100% because he is a liar and a racist. The lowest % of vaccinated by qualification are African-Americans, just above 30% I believe, and even with Dems controlling everything, media wants to blame right-wing nuts for "misinformation," despite the fact that a large % of African-Americans don't vote republican, and certainly don't tune into Hannity (not sure anyone should). It's a disaster. Now, cities / schools forcing people to mask up, despite the lack of efficacy, and are refusing to allow those without a vax card from joining in various activities / events? Almost looks like these liberal elitist geniuses are segregating, again.
I wish I could help you here with the link and optics. ha ha ha
Yes she stood while the rest of the women kneeled. Even more awesome about it, the Australians all stood.
pfffffttt
The six feet rule has to do with a reasonable distance for airborn droplets to spread. You probably know that already. The 15 minute rule has to do with the intake of the virus (viral load). As I understand it, the more you take in, the sicker you may get. They now say that the Delta variant achieves an average viral load that's up to 1000 times higher than the original virus. And that is probably what has people scared right now for the unvaccinated.
You make some good points though. The government from the start has sent out mixed messages. Many times in 2020, we were told by the government that the virus was contained and that it would go away, but then the experts on the government's task force would say the exact opposite. The government would downplay the risk and still spend $18 billion on Operation Warp Speed.
Yes, I understand the intent of the distance and duration, but how did they come up with those numbers? I'm guessing it would be very easy to make the experts look pretty dumb if they were pressed on it, but that's the problem, if you ask questions, you are labeled anti-whatever. Way too much 'this is the way it is" or "this is what you're going to do" without much, if any, justification. Prove that you know what in the hell you are doing, or what you are talking about, before I go along with it, especially since what has happened over these last couple of years.
Wrong. Members of my family have made the ultimate sacrifice for this country. The flag (and anthem) are an incredibly important symbol to us that we value highly. Mess with it and expect push back. We will not simply 'look the other way'. They can protest and they can expect to hear about it loudly from people who love our country and appreciate it. Effin progressives are the worst. Disgusting ingrates.
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I think all of them kneel except 1.
This is part of my problem with everything as well and why I find it hard to trust people.
1) The people pushing hardest for the vaccines/masks are the same ones who openly admit that they hate people like me.
2) The people pushing hardest for " " are the same ones who have been caught lying numerous times. Why should I trust them?
3) The people pushing hardest for " " are the same ones who have flip-flopped on numerous issues and we're supposed to just....go with it?
4) Social media is literally blocking people for saying things that really aren't that controversial.
5) The media is ignoring many studies and picking and choosing what information they want to put out there/go with. Why? There's obviously an agenda.
6) The CDC says those who have had covid can decrease their chances of getting it again with the vaccine. This is patently untrue. There is not one study to support this. In fact, I have read 2 other studies that reported the exact opposite--that vaccines really don't do anything for people who have already had it. In one of these studies, they found the opposite of their hypothesis and were honest enough to admit it and submit the results, anyway. So why is the CDC "follow the science" people putting something out that isn't true?
7) the people pushing hardest for " " are the same ones who do not care about illegal immigration at the border--in fact they are open to it. It is insane to me that the resident libs don't care about that, like...at all. If this covid is so deadly, lock it down, right?
8) The CDC manipulates data to prove a point, or narrative. "Science" doesn't push things this way. For example, on their website it is near impossible to find anything regarding death rate by age. But it's very easy to find death rate by age *compared to people 18-30 years old*. So if you are 35 it says you have a 4 times greater chance of death, if your 50 its 10x, etc. and up. They are trying to make it look scarier than it is. This is blatant manipulation of data to fit a narrative. Why should I trust them to give us the full story?
It's really obvious why these people are difficult to trust. There's more but my post is TL/DR as it is.
(I guess I coulda just posted a pic of all the democrats from Texas stuffed on their carbon-emitting private jet, crunched together and mask -less, smiling from ear to ear about skipping out of congress.)
There was some scientific evidence actually offered up and basically it was if 3 is good 6 is twice as good. Personally I think it was pretty damned sound logical thinking and there wasn't much of that going on. I have a lot more faith in 6 foot distancing than I do a mask in close quarters.
Any distance is going to be good when you are around someone sick, but the gospel of 6 foot came from nowhere and now has become yet another mechanism to try and control people. I don't care about the distance as is life, if you see someone that looks sick, you are probably going to stay 20 foot away from that person because you assessed the risk yourself. We shouldn't be mandating anything, we should let individuals who live in this free country assess their own risks.
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