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Urban says what he believes is wrong with Nebraska

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As many have already indicated on this board, he says it's Nebraska's recruiting base - plain and simple which just about eliminates him since his strength is recruiting, The article also says he just signed a new contract with Fox and will not be pursuing the Nebraska HC position.

 
As many have already indicated on this board, he says it's Nebraska's recruiting base - plain and simple which just about eliminates him since his strength is recruiting, The article also says he just signed a new contract with Fox and will not be pursuing the Nebraska HC position.

Thank **** for that insight. I mean no one has ever mentioned that. Ever.
 
The recruiting base IS the problem. The Huskers take too many low-rated, low-reward guys. Mickey Joseph knows what it takes, but the rest of the staff isn't at his level. That's nothing to do with geography. That's program-focus. There's a reason that Oregon pulls in 5-stars every so often to the college football backwater of the Pac-12.

How many football players is the state of Oregon producing? California helps, but not nearly enough to get Oregon the players it needs. So the Ducks go where the players are, and gear their program to be attractive. Get a recruiting coach like Meyer, or Meyer himself, and that will solve things that have plagued Nebraska for years.
 
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As many have already indicated on this board, he says it's Nebraska's recruiting base - plain and simple which just about eliminates him since his strength is recruiting, The article also says he just signed a new contract with Fox and will not be pursuing the Nebraska HC position.

Good. Did not want.
 
The defeatist attitude in regards to recruiting elite players is the one thing that drives me crazy. "They won't consider Nebraska" well no kidding, you never really recruit them. Mickey Joseph in one offseason showed that it's nonsense. Bill Callahan showed it was nonsense almost 20 years ago. If you don't put in the ground work, no surprise the top talent won't come.
 
The defeatist attitude in regards to recruiting elite players is the one thing that drives me crazy. "They won't consider Nebraska" well no kidding, you never really recruit them. Mickey Joseph in one offseason showed that it's nonsense. Bill Callahan showed it was nonsense almost 20 years ago. If you don't put in the ground work, no surprise the top talent won't come.
Right?? Even with that attitude NU pulls in top 25 classes...Imagine a staff that embraces recruiting and NIL
 
The defeatist attitude in regards to recruiting elite players is the one thing that drives me crazy. "They won't consider Nebraska" well no kidding, you never really recruit them. Mickey Joseph in one offseason showed that it's nonsense. Bill Callahan showed it was nonsense almost 20 years ago. If you don't put in the ground work, no surprise the top talent won't come.
Retention is a problem. They can leave very easily now.
 
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As many have already indicated on this board, he says it's Nebraska's recruiting base - plain and simple which just about eliminates him since his strength is recruiting, The article also says he just signed a new contract with Fox and will not be pursuing the Nebraska HC position.

Yes, recruiting has been ONE of the biggest issues and will need to get significantly better under the next regime if the Huskers ever want to be competitive in the Big 10. The other one that is slightly more important in my mind is talent development, which Neb. has been terrible in since Bo Pelini was coach
 
Hire great coaches that are great recruiters. Problem solved. The whole "can't recruit to Nebraska" bullshit is just an excuse.


Exactly, Nebraska needs someone who can do both... Which there are only a few coaches who can... Urban would be able to do this.... Also, Nebraska needs to be willing to pay top dollar to get that coach too.... Nothing comes cheap and if you are getting all this new money from Media deal, then you have to invest into bringing Nebraska brand back.... That means, developing top coaches, and paying them well, which also means along with the HC you have to have almost equal for assitants.... Also, Nebraska would do well to look at OSU, look at Nick Saban and clone their operations, and build up facilities... The bottom line is, unless you open the pocket books you aren't going to compete.
 
You do realize where you are right
Hmm, let me see, Nebraska's class of 2021 had players from Georgia, Florida, Texas, Utah, California, New Jersey. Same with the 2022 class. Ditto for the 2020 class, commits from all those states and more.

If you're implying that you can't get players because the location is Lincoln, NE, you're a really stupid person.
 
The recruiting base IS the problem. The Huskers take too many low-rated, low-reward guys. Mickey Joseph knows what it takes, but the rest of the staff isn't at his level. That's nothing to do with geography. That's program-focus. There's a reason that Oregon pulls in 5-stars every so often to the college football backwater of the Pac-12.

How many football players is the state of Oregon producing? California helps, but not nearly enough to get Oregon the players it needs. So the Ducks go where the players are, and gear their program to be attractive. Get a recruiting coach like Meyer, or Meyer himself, and that will solve things that have plagued Nebraska for years.
My only argument is Callahan got some high-level talent in here. If he and his staff could’ve coached it, Nebraska would be competing and winning conference championships again.
 
The problem is not recruiting, it is shit coaching and bad hires. It might be a problem if we want to be perennially in the top 10 year after after year. It is NOT a problem for competing in the big 10 west.
It's a combination of both.
 
Hire great coaches that are great recruiters. Problem solved. The whole "can't recruit to Nebraska" bullshit is just an excuse.
Sounds simple enough. But isn't that what every program wants? How many of those types are out there?
 
Hmm, let me see, Nebraska's class of 2021 had players from Georgia, Florida, Texas, Utah, California, New Jersey. Same with the 2022 class. Ditto for the 2020 class, commits from all those states and more.

If you're implying that you can't get players because the location is Lincoln, NE, you're a really stupid person.
Just players or really good/great players?
 
The transfer portal is mostly made up of kids who couldn't cut it or get much playing time at their previous schools. It's not the "cure all solution" like some are making it out to be
That's probably not true.
 
Callahan got top 10 classes. Something NU never did before or since, except TO in 96 and 97 maybe.
 
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The transfer portal is mostly made up of kids who couldn't cut it or get much playing time at their previous schools. It's not the "cure all solution" like some are making it out to be
To replace players that couldn't cut it or get much playing time.
 
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He knows he could recruit to akids hundred nywhere
But the point is he's nearing 60 and why would he want to recruit kids hundred miles away for almost all of the recruits he gets. He had SOLID recruiting bases at Florida and OSU
Hmm, let me see, Nebraska's class of 2021 had players from Georgia, Florida, Texas, Utah, California, New Jersey. Same with the 2022 class. Ditto for the 2020 class, commits from all those states and more.

If you're implying that you can't get players because the location is Lincoln, NE, you're a really stupid person.
The key is not so much where there from, but their ranking and quality......like 4 & 5 star kids. You're naming some states that have football factories in them - Texas, Texas A&M, Florida, FSU, Miami, USC. Georgia etc.....As for the B!G conference - OSU, Michigan, and PSU also hit some of those states hard......especially OSU who's pulled some phenominal talent out of Texas, Georgia and especially Florida in the last couple of decades. The difference - all of the schools mentioned have really solid HS football within a 300 to 400 mile radius to start with - and then they branch out. Nebraska is really at a big disadvantage starting out
 
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The transfer portal is mostly made up of kids who couldn't cut it or get much playing time at their previous schools. It's not the "cure all solution" like some are making it out to be
Kind of depends on the school they’re coming from, doesn’t it? The 2nd stringer leaving USC might be light years better than a 1st stringer at Minnesota. By the same token, a school like Wisconsin is going to be more leery of taking the 3rd string kid from Slippery Rock State.
 
Just players or really good/great players?
No reason Nebraska can't get really good/great players, otherwise players like Suh, Martinez, Burkhead would have gone elsewhere. Frost was able to secure a few top 20 type classes so even bad coaches can get decent talent, hell, Mike Riley and his 2017 class hauled in seven 4* players, all of which were from out of state.

Now imagine if someone could really coach them to be way better than what we've witnessed the past 8 years. Not sure if that coach/staff will show up, but if they do, I see no reason why Nebraska can't be quite a bit better.
 
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But the point is he's nearing 60 and why would he want to recruit kids hundred miles away for almost all of the recruits he gets. He had SOLID recruiting bases at Florida and OSU

The key is not so much where there from, but their ranking and quality......like 4 & 5 star kids. You're naming some states that have football factories in them - Texas, Texas A&M, Florida, FSU, Miami, USC. Georgia etc.....As for the B!G conference - OSU, Michigan, and PSU also hit some of those states hard......especially OSU who's pulled some phenominal talent out of Texas, Georgia and especially Florida in the last couple of decades. The difference - all of the schools mentioned have really solid HS football within a 300 to 400 mile radius to start with - and then they branch out. Nebraska is really at a big disadvantage starting out
Nebraska has always been at a disadvantage in state, but that doesn't mean there aren't at least 6 or so players that are true D-1 talent. I mentioned above that Mike Riley's 2017 class had seven 4* recruits that year, ALL from other states, nine 4* commits for the 2018 class! What he and Frost did with that talent was waste it for the most part.

Whomever the next coach/staff is will no doubt be aware of the slim amount of in state talent, let's hope they understand the urgency of filling up with quality out of state players.
 
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As many have already indicated on this board, he says it's Nebraska's recruiting base - plain and simple which just about eliminates him since his strength is recruiting, The article also says he just signed a new contract with Fox and will not be pursuing the Nebraska HC position.

Truth syrup the oldies don’t want to admit around here. No legit or big time coach who’s been around wants to go live on a plane vs Friday night lights with their family. Same reason our top coaches who were stud recruiters have left. You’ll get 2 maybe 3 years. Just like Mickey. He’ll be gone soon enough.
 
He knows he could recruit to anywhere
But why do it when it’s so much harder from the middle of nowhere like Neb? He could pick anywhere. Name one reason, not named the over used fan base, why he’d come here vs 40 or 50 other schools.
 
But why do it when it’s so much harder from the middle of nowhere like Neb? He could pick anywhere. Name one reason, not named the over used fan base, why he’d come here vs 40 or 50 other schools.
Yep. Texas threw a feeler his way and he basically said he wasn't interested. Same with USC and that surprised few people as both of those places are right in the middle of high school recruiting hotbeds.
 
But why do it when it’s so much harder from the middle of nowhere like Neb? He could pick anywhere. Name one reason, not named the over used fan base, why he’d come here vs 40 or 50 other schools.
Here is one very attractive reason, esp for urban:

nobody will ever ask any questions or say a word about literally anything so long as he’s the coach

doesn’t even have to win
 
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