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  1. Red I 73

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    3- 7 deaths from covid this fall with 30- 50 infection rate according to Dennis Dodd from CBS. Players most at risk: OL because of body type. Numbers produced from CDC data for 18-22 year olds.
     
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    ZERO young athletes die from Covid19. Unless they do, then they had an underlying condition and they were going to die anyway. Frees up scholarships that much sooner.
     
  3. Red I 73

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    Bold statement.
     
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    What is the comparable estimate of deaths if they cancel season.? More ? Less? That is an important angle people forget. Players may be around more people if the season is off due to spare time and less control.
     
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    might be the same, however in one of those scenarios the school isn’t going to be involved in a lawsuit
     
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    Good point. There is always a cause and effect with anything and everything. May think it is doing good by stopid Covid deaths but could be causing other issues.
     
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    bigboxes College Football Hall of Fame
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    This is all going to happen. I'm not sure how the country will react to it.
     
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    I think if you read the article, the data is based on a specific age group of men THAT IS NOT SPECIFIC TO FOOTBALL.
     
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    but sooooo many people want their GD Football.. they don't give a crap how many deaths there are or whatever.. they just want what they want.. now get your asses out there and play football so I can get drunk and gamble and yell and enjoy myself...
     
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    The CDC has been dead right about everything this virus has done. Fauci made enough predictions that one of his scenarios are bound to be right
     
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    This is America. They don't have to play. We're not talking about the Soviet union. Let's not pretend all these college students wouldnt be around each other anyways. Getting 18 - 22 year olds to isolate for years? Good luck with that.
     
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    Most of these measures are just around to make people feel better. How do arrows at stores making people walk a certain direction work when everyone walks right by the other shoppers that stop. Contain nursing homes and let people who are at risk isolate. Let the rest of us go about our lives. Too much inconsistency for me to believe any of this is really working.
     
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    many of those 18-22 year olds are not doing it for their health, but rather a shot at a career in the league.. and nobody said for years either.. I just knew there would be statements like Charlie's.. people just want what they want and don't really give af. That is all I'm pointing out.
     
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    My point is, what's the difference if they are playing football, drinking and dancing at a party, messing around at the beach......

    College students aren't going to isolate anyway, so why not let them play football?
     
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    We don’t know of the long term damage from covid-19 to the lungs. We are learning more and more but there’s still more we need to know. Post covid-fibrosis can lead to permanent lung damage and end an athlete’s career. It will be interesting to learn more about the long term consequences of covid-19 exposure. NBA players will provide some insight before football season.
     
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    Scott Frost essentially makes this point that some players are likely to get it regardless of whether they are playing football or not. In fact, he suggests that the structure that football provides in players lives may make them less likely to get it because it motivates them to be more mindful of it.
     
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    are the schools going to assume liability.
    That may or may not be true - not enough experience to know

    Are the schools going to accept the potential liability or they going to assure all the parents and kids that things will be ok and then say these darn administrators are making us give you this waiver to sign
     
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    The devil is in the details. How many non-college linemen with that body type work out? What kind of shape is the cardiovascular system of most 320 lb 18-22 year olds in who aren't playing football? The CDC data and the Illinois guess does not consider underlying conditions that predispose those large 18-22 year olds to die from COVID. How many of them have diabetes? How many of them have heart disease? Leukemia? Cystic fibrosis? Chronic refractory asthma? There's science and then there's junk science. It won't matter anyway. IF we're going to test and quarantine as a condition of playing games, they're won't be college football this fall.
     
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    3-7 deaths that would happen regardless of whether they play football or not.

    Seriously, how is this a thing? An uncontrollable infectious disease miraculously won't kill someone that isn't playing football but it will if they do?
     
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    Oh, you thought my post was serious? oops
     
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    This whole liability thing is blown way out of proportion. Nobody is going to even be heard in court, let alone win a lawsuit because they caught a virus that they can't prove came from any certain interaction.
     
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    Nah. A 320 lb college athlete is a whole different animal than a 320 lb video game player..
     
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    dinglefritz College Football Hall of Fame
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    It should have been serious. Somebody takes a f'n generalization which included couch potato 300 pounders with diabetes, heart disease, asthma or cystic fibrosis and extrapolated that to college athletes. That's f'n ludicrous.
     
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    exactly. They don't consider in their ludicrous "projection" that football players actually have some degree of cardiovascular fitness AND generally aren't 320 lbs with diabetes. The CDC includes all people in that age group regardless of their health or condition.
     
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    dinglefritz College Football Hall of Fame
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    I wonder how many million clicks this F'n article generated for CBS sports? How much money did they just make by publishing that crappy piece? That is a HORRIBLY irresponsible story.
     
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    Bingo. If a bar is open somewhere right now, it’s packed with kids in early 20’s.
     
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    probably correct - then I assume they will not have to sign a waiver
     
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    dinglefritz College Football Hall of Fame
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    The nanny state needs to protect them from themselves. I'm at the point where I don't think we're going to have kids in school if this is the attitude we're going to take. Good heavens everybody. Just go crawl in your hole and hide like Saddam.
     
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    Excellent. Another model.
     
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    dinglefritz College Football Hall of Fame
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    Hey IF they would let a 62 year old man with a hip prosthesis and who also needs a knee and the other hip replaced run down and cover kicks, I'M IN!!!! Your mistake is taking as gospel a "projection" from one college "researcher" looking to make a name for himself. What does the UNMC project? The CDC's numbers this guy used are for ALL people in that age group including people with some horrible disease processes.
     
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    Ok we can’t sit at home and hope it goes away, or can we? Maybe we should all stay home the next two years and let China foot the bills. It seems like there is no middle it’s either scare people into hysteria or you have the protesters either the rational or violent ones. Or people just saying screw it I’m doing it come hell or high water.
     
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    it's not about the nanny state or not.. it's about people not being informed, and also being selfish. Everyone seems to have their mind made up about this virus, except most people don't know a dang thing about it, or are terribly misinformed. That is not to say everyone is at fault, because the misinformation started from the very beginning, but you look at how it has worked in the rest of the world, and compare that to here.

    Why is it, that the US can't seem to get things under control? Because you have a society of selfish people. It isn't about socialism, or even communism, it's about people being of such low character and used to being so selfish, that they cannot come together anymore for any reason. You have people fighting each other over every little thing, and that certainly isn't going make matters better.

    Maybe some of you people should just go ask to be infected, since you think you know so much about it.
     
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    In case you missed it, quite a few people on this board have had it already. I have a college aged kid who I'm afraid is going to be sitting at home taking classes on line that I'm paying 70K per year. And yeah my kid is on a college sports team. For a HEALTHY college aged kid this virus poses about as close to ZERO percent risk as it gets. I'm honestly more worried about some other infectious agent such as a strep than I am COVID for my 21 year old. I'm a medically trained professional. When "researchers" like this guy at Illinois release things like he did, the general is not equipped to analyze the projection with a critical eye.

    Life involves some degree of risk no matter what. My "hobby" right now is considered to be one of the riskiest occupations for your health, injury or death in America and yet I do it and no I don't need the money. IF your kid has diabetes, severe asthma, cancer or some other disease process, then they shouldn't play football this fall. If he's healthy, I don't think we should deprive them of their college opportunities.
     
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    The biggest point you made is life involves risk. Others take on more, some take on less, but I live in the US and should be able to choose what risks I can take vs. a government telling me what to do. I wear a mask and listen to everything that is being stated to help, but at the end of the day I should be able to make a decision for myself and not have some POS politician telling me what to do because they are playing god. It's on both sides and facts and statistics don't seem to matter. Maybe some day we can get back to actual news being reported with out any bias and being able to work off of actual facts instead of trying to scare someone into being a sheep.
     
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    meanwhile another cop died yesterday after being shot while making a traffic stop. Crickets.
     
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    This will be as accurate as the rest of the models that have 0% accuracy rate.. This is purely a SCAMDEMIC.
     
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    The numbers say nothing to differentiate between football players and non athletes. They are numbers from 18-22 population at large. It's a projection. Nothing more.
     
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    If the goal was to minimize deaths we should disband the city of Chicago and disperse all citizens to other locations. Defund Chicago!! In fact if I don’t get my way I think it’s time for stealing some Nike’s and breaking windows because I won’t stand for these deaths. The blood is on the mayors hands. Killer. No justice, no peace chicago. We will resort to any tactic
     
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    Are you sure about that - "selfish people"? Or, are you soaking in what the TV and media tell us? I guess one person's perspective is another's argument And that my friends is all I have to say about that.
     
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