Well this thread got weird. I was wondering with all the crowing about how hard the new S&C staff was gonna go and about trash cans and IV bags if they were gonna run some kids in with rhabdo. I also wonder how often this stuff used to happen back when and you just didn't hear anything about it. Go too hard and you kill the golden goose. Vigorous S&C is a vital part of a successful program. But put kids in the hospital and you'll find yourself attracting "outside opinions" on how hard you're allowed to work the kids out. They'd better walk that line carefully.