Top 4 in state prospects..SSO thoughts...

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  1. HBK4life

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    https://forum.huskermax.com/threads...ep-tabs-on-for-nebraska-in-2021-class.115198/ Avante Dickerson is #1 on the list, and probably an uphill battle here. Ohio State, LSU, and now Oregon in the mix, things could get tough to keep this kid around. With a 40 listed below 4.4, it's a talent we need to get to Lincoln.
    Teddy Prochazka is already committed, and an athlete with this size is a must keep. Kudos to the staff working on this kid and getting him solid to us early.
    Keagan Johnson, who is a legacy and the son of Clester Johnson, is the brother of 2 other Bellevue West standouts. One went to Wyoming, the other to South Dakota State. He is a great athlete to help build our room whichever position he chooses. Luckily we won't have to worry about the coaching staff telling his dad they don't have time for him when he has a son that is being looked at by FBS programs, we have already offered.
    AJ Rollins has all the measureables that you could ask for from a player that has a Nebraska offer. While i'm not sure how he projects.... in a class where we need at least 2 TEs, a local kid is a good bet to help get your room re-stocked when Austin Allen, Kurt Rafdal, and Travis Vokolek will all be seniors his first year, with only Chris Hickman left on the roster after that.

    There will be one or two others that garner offers from Scott Frost and Nebraska after this spring, but that is what we have for now. We will gain 3 of the 4 to be part of this class.
     
  2. jeans15

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    Every player worthy of a FBS offer in Nebraska needs to be offered unless he is just highly overrated after evaluation.

    That's your base in recruiting.
     
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    Cant agree with that
     
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    Dickerson is the one that we really need to get... I’m not sure what is background is... meaning if he has always been from the area or moved here from a different state... but he is right there in our back yard and is a highly ranked player with a great offer list... honestly don’t care as much about the highly ranked part as I do the offer list, when you start seeing kids have those offer lists, you know they’re legit prospects.... I hope we get this kid and keep him in state
     
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    not sure if I’d say uphill battle for A Dickerson. Most of the recruiting experts assume the Huskers lead for him. But Frost, Chin and Fisher can’t back off on him at all or sleep on him even a little bit. That’s how we will lose him to LSU or OSU.

    and it’s funny. On Rivals Teddy Prochazka is a Top 100 talent (Top 60 at that) and A Dickerson is 4 star Top 250 DB. But on 24/7 Dickerson is the Top 100 players while Teddy Prochazka isn’t. Literally flip flopped around between the two sites lol.



     
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    Dickerson is very athletic, so he has a big upside, but give me Teddy P, everyday. He is going to be a monster.
     
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    SSO has more goods than you’d ever deliver. Usually everything he says coMes to fruition
     
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    I think the worry with Dickerson is Florida.
     
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    If anyone can keep Dickerson in state...then it’s definitely Fisher. Dudes a great recruiter and great with player development. I’ll put my money on Fisher locking Dickerson up. GBR

    oh yeah...Huskers already have 3 crystal Balls for the Huskers with A Dickerson and ones Wiltfong and making it 100% Huskers for the moment...;)
     
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    definitely agreed there. If we were to miss out on any player I’d rather be at the DB position (we have loaded that position up the past few years) and not a Top 100 OLineman. We need all those guys we can get and keep loading up that Oline room.
     
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    Fish can coach with anybody, so, it comes down to AD liking the coaches and the school.
    He won't get a better chance of going next level going anywhere else than here.
     
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    I’d love to share the same thoughts as you do here, but I guess I kind of see it the other way... he is a DB and LSU is known for putting DBs in the league... Nebraska on the other hand has struggled putting players at any position in the league as of late...

    Now I do like fish and he is one heck of a recruiter, I just don’t think I say say he has a better chance of getting to the league from Nebraska then anywhere else, especially with DBU hot on his trails... I think if he stays close to home it will be because the relationship he builds with fish and wanting to stay close to friends and family
     
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    Id have assume most recruits know that’s due to I
    Mike Riley his staff and not this staff fault. We have a good amount of DBs in the NFL right now ourselves and Fisher is an elite DB coach. That’s why he’s one of the best recruiters in the country.
     
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    I do think your assumption would be more correct with a local kid like Dickerson, and that is an angle that I haven’t looked at it from... I go off the assumption that most kids just look at what’s in the league and not really account for previous staffs downfalls... so very good point there

    I do hope to see some more progression from our DBs... and by progression I mean toughness and aggression... I’m tired of seeing our DBs not really hustling, not turning to find the ball, and most of all not wrapping up (bootle)... at the beginning of the year I had high hopes for our DBs more specifically Lamar, and by the end of the year I found myself kind of frustrated by not seeing him hustle on some plays... and for Bootle just tired of seeing him diving at feet without ever wrapping up
     
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    And you’re right, that was a huge issue of ours recently. But since Fisher has gotten here, that area has improved a lot. Just look how much better our DBs played this year and how far M Dismuke and Lamar Jackson have came along under Fisher? I only WISH Fisher would have been here for 5-6 years or so...
     
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  16. HBK4life

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    If you don't quote whose post we have no idea what you can't agree with or why? Lol
     
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    Ummm, lets see how LJ does, as I'm sure whoever was brand new db coach at lsu had the same level of talent and was putting guys in the league year two?

    Guess you'd need links and ratings of players,plus new systems etc. But talent is talent, LJ is the only talent Fish will have graduated,so,we will see.
    He had one at ucf for sure,first rounder,not sure if theres others.
     
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    Wow, just depressing we can't retain top in-state talent, our football team is turning into our basketball program. Terrible.
     
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    AD hasn't shown any disinterest either, not as much as Henrich did anyways.
     
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    we haven’t lost him by any means. We are even favored on 24/7 with 3 crystal balls and one of those by Wiltfong. So far it’s only been X Watts we lost and that’s because he grew up a Notre Dane fan. I honestly think Dickerson ends up being a Husker.
     
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    Who said we aren't retaining? If we lose Avante but keep the other 3 that's still pretty good. Far from over with Dickerson.
     
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    Ok, good, hope you're right.
     
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    If Fish can get two guys into the pros at ucf, he will be better here.
    Hughes and Griffin, been coaching since 2015 at D1
     
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    Damn straight. We can never have enough animal Olinemen,
     
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    I like how they go get their top O lineman early,it shows their priority as a staff.
     
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    Fisher and Held get a lot of credit as recruiters, but I’m not sure anyone has done better than Austin.
     
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    Clester Johnson doesn't get the hype he deserves as a key cog on those 90s teams. I watch those games from time to time and he's just there making plays from that WB position. IIRC he was an option QB who they moved to wingback. They used him running, receiving, returning, and naturally he was a solid run blocker to see the field in that offense.
     
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    that is correct. our WR were a bunch of very solid players who don't get near the credit they deserve. Abdul Muhammad, Jon Vedral, Brendan Holbein, Clester, Kenny Cheatham, Shevin Wiggins, Davison, Lance Brown. Dependable players.
     
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    Watch the 94 CU game and watch how we handled their good DT Kerry Hicks in the first half. WB would come in motion and wham block him along with Aaron Graham (doubt it's still legal with today's rules). Hicks got hit enough times by Clester and Vedral to take away his hard charge. His head was on a swivel anytime we did motion.
     
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