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This will probably be used to end football....even though his team didn’t play.

Very sad. Dying from anything at 17 is a tragedy.
Still tragic, but he wasn't 17, that was the year he graduated, he was 20. I couldn't tell from the tweet, but the school he played for was California University of Pennsylvania, a Division 2 school.
 
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Seems like there are significant health issues with this guy. Itd be nice if we got more info.
 
The number of deaths directly related to COVID are astronomically overstated and the reason is $$$$ - hospitals get paid more if they can tie a death to the virus.

For example, I have a family member who recently lost her aunt to cancer. The aunt, although obviously battling cancer and dying from it, was tested FOUR times in the last 72 hours of her life because they wanted to try and get a positive COVID test before she passed. It's disgusting, misleading, and just plain wrong.
 
Seems like there are significant health issues with this guy. Itd be nice if we got more info.

almost all diseases or injuries have worse outcomes if the patient has significant underlying health issues

if a police officer gets tragically shot people aren't demanding to know more about his/her health history in order to opine if their outcome might have been better if they were just a bit healthier at baseline
 
If only the cop's heart was stronger, he would have survived that headshot

yes - outcomes of GSW to the head/chest/abd etc are better if you are without significant underlying cardiac, pulmonary, kidney disease etc

the acute neurohormonal effects of a traumatic brain injury on the cardiovascular system are tremendous and often deleterious

same goes with motor vehicle accidents etc

if you are in poor health at the time of an acute insult outcomes are worse - comordities alter outcomes in all conditions
 
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almost all diseases or injuries have worse outcomes if the patient has significant underlying health issues

if a police officer gets tragically shot people aren't demanding to know more about his/her health history in order to opine if their outcome might have been better if they were just a bit healthier at baseline

Do gunshots have 99.98% chance of survival?
 
Still tragic, but he wasn't 17, that was the year he graduated, he was 20. I couldn't tell from the tweet, but the school he played for was California University of Pennsylvania, a Division 2 school.
If they had continued football, his life choices may have been different and maybe he does not get it and is still alive.....
 
Do gunshots have 99.98% chance of survival?

2 identical traumatic injuries

who has the better chance of survival with the least significant long term health consequences?

a 55 yo with obesity, coronary artery disease, diabetes and renal failure requiring dialysis or a 55 yo who is otherwise healthy?
 
The number of deaths directly related to COVID are astronomically overstated and the reason is $$$$ - hospitals get paid more if they can tie a death to the virus.

For example, I have a family member who recently lost her aunt to cancer. The aunt, although obviously battling cancer and dying from it, was tested FOUR times in the last 72 hours of her life because they wanted to try and get a positive COVID test before she passed. It's disgusting, misleading, and just plain wrong.
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source data : https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/...typically defined,in which the death occurred.
 
2 identical traumatic injuries

who has the better chance of survival with the least significant long term health consequences?

a 55 yo with obesity, coronary artery disease, diabetes and renal failure requiring dialysis or a 55 yo who is otherwise healthy?
No traumatic injuries to either person... a 55 year old with obesity, coronary artery disease, diabetes and renal failure requiring dialysis or a 55 yr old who is healthy.

Which one is more likely to die next week?
 
2 identical traumatic injuries

who has the better chance of survival with the least significant long term health consequences?

a 55 yo with obesity, coronary artery disease, diabetes and renal failure requiring dialysis or a 55 yo who is otherwise healthy?
Were they shot in the head with a .50cal ?
 
We lose around 12-15 football players a year for random reasons. If this player hadn't got Covid maybe he would have died from an undiagnosed heart issue or other illness. One death is not justification that football directly contributes to the risk of dying from Covid. Now if we start seeing a ton more all of the sudden then there is a case.
 
almost all diseases or injuries have worse outcomes if the patient has significant underlying health issues

if a police officer gets tragically shot people aren't demanding to know more about his/her health history in order to opine if their outcome might have been better if they were just a bit healthier at baseline

For someone allegedly so educated you post some thing things that challenge that notion.
 
2 identical traumatic injuries

who has the better chance of survival with the least significant long term health consequences?

a 55 yo with obesity, coronary artery disease, diabetes and renal failure requiring dialysis or a 55 yo who is otherwise healthy?

A guy posts inane straw man arguments on a message board. How long can he survive?
 
*a person is fatally shot*

"yea, sure, but what was his blood pressure?"
- @jlb321

a person is only fatally shot if they die
some traumas are going to be universally fatal

for those that survive the initial resuscitation and make it to the ICU - underlying health conditions play a large role in subsequent survival and long term health challenges

not sure why some find this to be so complicated
 
So did someone actually try to use this young man's death as a reason to cancel Big Ten football, swing an election, and destroy the American way of life and everything we hold dear?

Or did a high school just post a nice obituary for a recent graduate who happened to play football?
 
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a person is only fatally shot if they die
some traumas are going to be universally fatal

for those that survive the initial resuscitation and make it to the ICU - underlying health conditions play a large role in subsequent survival and long term health challenges

not sure why some find this to be so complicated
I get what you’re saying. I agree everyone should be as healthy as possible. Obesity costs this country tens of billions annually, not to mention the limits it puts on people’s quality of life.
 
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It's always best to live by the old adage: "Don't believe all of what you read and only half of what you see."


The problem now is all the people that read the original post are running all over spreading the word...

I seen the updated version on facebook and the original on here..
 
If they had continued football, his life choices may have been different and maybe he does not get it and is still alive.....
If his life took such a downward turn because he didn't have football for 2 months, then he was going to be in a world of hurt very soon, as it is highly unlikely that he has football beyond college if he is at a Division II school.

In other words, blaming a football shutdown for life choices is a crap excuse.
 
If his life took such a downward turn because he didn't have football for 2 months, then he was going to be in a world of hurt very soon, as it is highly unlikely that he has football beyond college if he is at a Division II school.

In other words, blaming a football shutdown for life choices is a crap excuse.

Wow you completely missed PC’s point. Had he been a part of a structured
football program (practice, weight, film etc), he may of not been out doing activities that led to him being infected.
 
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Wow you completely missed PC’s point. Had he been a part of a structured
football program (practice, weight, film etc), he may of not been out doing activities that led to him being infected.

Why is there any assumption he or anyone else for that matter was careless and doing something that led them to become infected?
 
r. Stephens’ death was initially believed to be from COVID-19 complications, according to a Facebook post Tuesday from Central Catholic. But on Wednesday, the school said it “mistakenly attributed his death without official confirmation on cause” and apologized for the error.

 
Because we have been told that if we social distance and wear a mask we won't get the covid. Anything else is careless

The 2 key words in your response is we

too many freedom fighters out there that are only concerned with the me rather than the we
 
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