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The Vote Was 11-3 to Postpone


Although the speculation is that the three are Nebraska, Iowa and Ohio State, it was not confirmed. It was also stated that two separate medical expert groups were consulted when they made the decision, but they did not indicate what medical data/concerns led them to recommending the season to be cancelled. I'm not sure this is the level of transparency that will satisfy anyone.
 
Aren’t there state sunshine laws that could be applied to this since so many of these universities are government or state sponsored because they are a public institution?
 
So why does it take a lawsuit to get that kind of minimal response? Why is the B1G so secretive if the process was fair and legit? What the heck are they hiding? I always thought before this fiasco of secrecy that the B1G was supposed to be THE model of decent behavior. So I don't get it. They look worse each time they stonewall it.
 
Pararaphrasing the B1G said that the conference voted 11-3 according to the sworn affadavits, but if you remember, there were at least 2 presidents who said there was no vote. Credit to the gentleman above, but I had forgotten about that. He is correct.

I was wondering who was lying?

Ronnie Green has said unequivocally that there was a vote

 
Iowa has always been in favor of playing I have no idea who the other 2 were nor do I care I just know Iowa has been at the forefront of this move to play.
 
Maybe it depends what is meant by "vote". The drift I got is the "vote" Green was talking about was basically a "straw poll". I thought in the B1G the only time there is a "vote" is if the straw poll is unanimous, then they vote. So it could be that they voted, but didn't really vote. Does that make sense? Even I'm getting confused.
 
Day and Frost were obviously on the same page as their schools respective administrators and have been consistently saying in unison “we do not want to postpone”. Evidently Iowa administrators vote to play yet Ferentz has been silent. I suspect Ferentz is satisfied to collect his 7 figure salary without playing a game, although he will miss out on that potential half million bonus check for winning 8 games.
 
Day and Frost were obviously on the same page as their schools respective administrators and have been consistently saying in unison “we do not want to postpone”. Evidently Iowa administrators vote to play yet Ferentz has been silent. I suspect Ferentz is satisfied to collect his 7 figure salary without playing a game, although he will miss out on that potential half million bonus check for winning 8 games.

Kirk had publicly stated from day 1 he wanted to play! Not so sure about the other two whoever they were.
 
The "vote" was probably based on a leading question. Something along the lines of "if we are told that players will develop a heart condition if we play, so do you still want a season"?
 
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Since the B1G won't tell us, we can only speculate how and what really went down.

So my speculation is that there wasn't much discussion or information in the "formal" meeting for the "official" vote on record. The B1G likely is embarrassed to show the public just how "thin" the formal process was so they don't want to share any minutes.

And the formal process likely was thin because all the real action/discussion took place prior to the vote between certain individuals and that discussion was more political in nature than factually based. I'd guess some governors and other politicians were heavily involved in the private discussions. Certain individuals representing schools like Nebraska probably weren't included in any meaningful private one-off pre-discussions. The pro "let's play" football schools were likely provided very vanilla pre-discussions that weren't so controversial so those schools don't really have a clue either on how it all came down. They can just speculate like the rest of us.

So which schools were really involved in the meaningful discussions? Likely the ones that have presidents that are being most silent now. That's your big clue.

As I said, I emphasize this is just MY speculation on the actual process because the B1G refuses to tell us any details without a court order.

P.S. IF I had to guess, I'd bet the governors of Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois and Pennsylvania were very involved. Governors of Nebraska, Iowa and Ohio likely had little input. Don't know about the others.
 
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The presidents were leaning hard against a study that has been debunked. You cam say it's a conspiracy or whatever, but there is no doubt its political. The cover has been removed and information is being sourced and timetables are moved up. That isn't good enough.

First weekend in October. They ****ed up.
 
Although the speculation is that the three are Nebraska, Iowa and Ohio State, it was not confirmed. It was also stated that two separate medical expert groups were consulted when they made the decision, but they did not indicate what medical data/concerns led them to recommending the season to be cancelled. I'm not sure this is the level of transparency that will satisfy anyone.
OWH said in their story they confirmed Iowa, Nebraska and tOSU.
 
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Many years ago, the chairman of the Nebraska Legislature's Judiciary Committee retired, generating a lot of interest in the chairmanship. Several senators ran for it, including one from Omaha who was, to put it nicely, not up to the job. When she made calls asking for support, even her friends would say things like, "Uh yeah, sounds good. Really gotta run... have a Merry Christmas... bye now!"

And she would put them down as a solid "Yes."

These votes were done the old-fashioned way, with secret ballots dropped into a basket and the votes recorded on big notepad. They would keep voting until someone got 25, with the person having the lowest total dropping out each round. She got one very early vote, which was obviously her own. Then about 45 more votes went on the board before she finally got a second one. At that point there was a huge sigh of relief, because everybody in the chamber could claim it was theirs.

So I guess that's the beauty of leaking an 11-3 vote, with no names attached. Most will assume Ohio State and Nebraska voted yes, and 12 university presidents can claim vote #3.
 
It's just a whole bunch of inconsistent BS. What makes playing football so unsafe but classes and intramurals are not? It just makes no sense.
It's inconsistent because different states/localities are all handling things their own way - ie., differently. For example, in some places school is being held with in-person classes, in other places it's totally virtual. In some places gyms and movie theaters are open. In other places they are closed by lock down edict. Even in different states, different business are treated differently. In Michigan you can go to a strip club or a casino but you can't go to a gym.
 
Not sure who the other two are? Seriously? It's quite obvious who the main one is, which is Nebraska. We are at the forefront, OSU second and Iowa clinging to the shirt tails whispering, "we want to play"!
Yep this^^^^^exactly. Teams with options voice their opinion loudly....teams who know their lucky to be where their at and don’t have options, whisper their protest.
 
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It's inconsistent because different states/localities are all handling things their own way - ie., differently. For example, in some places school is being held with in-person classes, in other places it's totally virtual. In some places gyms and movie theaters are open. In other places they are closed by lock down edict. Even in different states, different business are treated differently. In Michigan you can go to a strip club or a casino but you can't go to a gym.

Are any B1G school 100% virtual?
 
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Are any B1G school 100% virtual?
That's the part where it got nonsensical to me. I can understand the risks that exist with football. But to have the kids all on campus and then be like, "...but no organized sports though" doesn't make a lot of sense.

I think they did it based on liability fears but it's a very weird look that 1) Students are still on campus and 2) Other conferences didn't hop on the postponement bus like everyone was predicting
 
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