The Jet Sweep - could be significantly more effective in 2017?

[koolhusker]

It's obvious the HCMR will always want the jet sweep to be a part of his offensive package. I think most of us would agree that it was largely ineffective last year. I see a few reasons that this play may be measurably better this coming season.

1. Personnel of the ball carrier - Alonzo Moore, Westy, and Reilly never looked fluid or dynamic (at least to me) on this type of run. I look for DPE and Spielman to be quicker and much more explosive to hit the edge with more aggression and a better ability to change direction or cut it up.

2. Quarterback under center more often. I think that opposing defenses keyed on our tendency that we liked to run the jet sweep from under center. The fact that we weren't under center much meant that there was a higher percentage chance that our tendency would hold true. If we are under center more often, that percentage will go down, as I don't believe we will run the jet sweep any more often than we did previously.

3. An increase in misdirection, screens, and backfield passes will keep defenses more honest. This kinda goes along with #2, but if we can keep the defenses from cheating up due to screens, TE usage, and RB checkdowns, I don't think the safeties and ILB can jump as quick as they did last year, or leave themselves open to Langs setting them up as the game goes along. TA was awful at these "timing" plays. We should be significantly more effective with them this season with either Lee or POB.


Thoughts?

 

[chicolby]

Sounds good.

 

[HuskerJuice]

 

[otismotis08]

I'm not sure the talent is all that much better at this, especially at QB. It's a big unknown.
The jet sweep still serves as a constant reminder of the Wisconsin beatdowns we've taken lately. They clobbered us with it and we had no answer.

 

[chicolby]

I'm not sure the talent is all that much better at this, especially at QB. It's a big unknown.
The jet sweep still serves as a constant reminder of the Wisconsin beatdowns we've taken lately. They clobbered us with it and we had no answer.

Back when the former defensive wizard head coach was around. There were several things that teams would do over and over and over again with absolutely no adjustment, but we'd hear afterwards about players not being where they were supposed to be.

 

[timnsun]

I'm not sure the talent is all that much better at this, especially at QB. It's a big unknown.
The jet sweep still serves as a constant reminder of the Wisconsin beatdowns we've taken lately. They clobbered us with it and we had no answer.

I so much look forward to next season... then we will know if our QBs are more talented or not. As long as they haven't played in games for us we won't know until we see them on the field.

I myself see the QB position as a tremendous upgrade for the offense these coaches want to run. We will see...

 

[huskerhooligansdotcom]

Alonzo Moore was the best at running the jet sweep last year... when his shoulder got banged up.. we couldn't really run it with him. Brandon Reilly was good at it too, but was limited with his hamstring issues. Every time we ran it with DPE it didn't seem to work very well for whatever reason even though it would seemingly fit his skill set.

 

[QQ_CEO]

I'm not sure the talent is all that much better at this, especially at QB. It's a big unknown.
The jet sweep still serves as a constant reminder of the Wisconsin beatdowns we've taken lately. They clobbered us with it and we had no answer.

I thought the exact same thing.

 

[jflores]

We could have been better at it this last year if DPE was more of his normal self. He seemed abnormally bad at that play despite his athleticism

 

[tpmcg]

guess he was a little ginger on the knee, but it's time to break his old self out.

 

[tstaup]

DPE failed during the USC game too. Doesn't seem like he thinks too much when his number is called. Hoping Taz is more electric

 

[cubsker]

year number 3 of hearing this

 

[timnsun]

year number 3 of hearing this

What is the history of this board? 20 years? Year number 20 (or whatever it is) of hearing stuff like this post as well.

It's the nature of the beast.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

Alonzo Moore was the best at running the jet sweep last year... when his shoulder got banged up.. we couldn't really run it with him. Brandon Reilly was good at it too, but was limited with his hamstring issues. Every time we ran it with DPE it didn't seem to work very well for whatever reason even though it would seemingly fit his skill set.

If Moore being healthy was a prerequisite to the jet sweep being successful, then it should have been thrown out of the playbook. That guy was almost as tough as a Walmart plastic bag.

 

[Cornicator]

It's obvious the HCMR will always want the jet sweep to be a part of his offensive package. I think most of us would agree that it was largely ineffective last year. I see a few reasons that this play may be measurably better this coming season.

1. Personnel of the ball carrier - Alonzo Moore, Westy, and Reilly never looked fluid or dynamic (at least to me) on this type of run. I look for DPE and Spielman to be quicker and much more explosive to hit the edge with more aggression and a better ability to change direction or cut it up.


Thoughts?

You have a bad memory. BR and Moore both averaged more than 10 yards per carry on the Jet Sweep. Westy rarely ran the play. DPE is actually the last player who should be running the jet sweep because his skill set is built around one cut explosiveness getting vertical.

However, the biggest threats in the Jew Sweep going forward are going to be Spielman and Lindsey.

As for the play losing its effectiveness last season, injuries all over the place really derailed Nebraska's ability to do much of anything offensively, over the last half of the season.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

You have a bad memory. BR and Moore both averaged more than 10 yards per carry on the Jet Sweep. Westy rarely ran the play. DPE is actually the last player who should be running the jet sweep because his skill set is built around one cut explosiveness getting vertical.

However, the biggest threats in the Jew Sweep going forward are going to be Spielman and Lindsey.

As for the play losing its effectiveness last season, injuries all over the place really derailed Nebraska's ability to do much of anything offensively, over the last half of the season.

Ha ha you wrote Jew Sweep, are the Protestant Pass and Buhhdist Bomb and the Islamic Iso also in the playbook?

 

[ctscts]

I'm not sure the talent is all that much better at this, especially at QB. It's a big unknown.
The jet sweep still serves as a constant reminder of the Wisconsin beatdowns we've taken lately. They clobbered us with it and we had no answer.

I may be missing your point, but what is the critical role of the QB in a jet sweep?

 

[Cornicator]

I may be missing your point, but what is the critical role of the QB in a jet sweep?

If the QB is a true threat out of the passing game, the second and 3rd levels are forced to read QB keys on every drop back. This short amount of hesitation is manufactured by the QBs ability to deceive before executing the sweep action. If the ball carrier is a dynamic runner, he can exploit the delayed reaction, thus reaching the edge before the backers or safeties responsible for making the play.

I think a good argument can be made that the QB will help the play produce more explosive results. However, I think the OP was incorrect in starting Moore and BR couldn't execute the play. They both were very dangerous and often produced first Downs.

 

[Bremser]

It is clear we need more Jewish running backs!

 

[jflores]

You have a bad memory. BR and Moore both averaged more than 10 yards per carry on the Jet Sweep. Westy rarely ran the play. DPE is actually the last player who should be running the jet sweep because his skill set is built around one cut explosiveness getting vertical.

However, the biggest threats in the Jet Sweep going forward are going to be Spielman and Lindsey.

As for the play losing its effectiveness last season, injuries all over the place really derailed Nebraska's ability to do much of anything offensively, over the last half of the season.

Agree. Everyone wanted DPE to be a beast at the durn play, but he was simply outperformed by both Moore and BR, howoever kludgy they might have looked.

 

[bigboxes]

Ha ha you wrote Jew Sweep, are the Protestant Pass and Buhhdist Bomb and the Islamic Iso also in the playbook?

I'm looking to see how close the "w" is to the "t" to see if it was a slip of the finger or something subconscious.

 

[jflores]

I'm looking to see how close the "w" is to the "t" to see if it was a slip of the finger or something subconscious.

As long as they include more Mormon middle screens in games, I'm good with the new playbook verbiage.

 

[NikkiSixx]

Yeah, 2016 was really that bad.. if the offense can't do better than this, we got bigger issues than the jet sweep.

 

[otismotis08]

I may be missing your point, but what is the critical role of the QB in a jet sweep?

Timing and pass-threat.

 

[timnsun]

Yeah, 2016 was really that bad.. if the offense can't do better than this, we got bigger issues than the jet sweep.

Relevance to OP?

 

[oldjar07]

If Moore being healthy was a prerequisite to the jet sweep being successful, then it should have been thrown out of the playbook. That guy was almost as tough as a Walmart plastic bag.

Are you kidding me? The dude never went down with the first tackle

 

[huskerhooligansdotcom]

Are you kidding me? The dude never went down with the first tackle

i think he was referring to injury propensity

 

[huskerhooligansdotcom]

Yeah, 2016 was really that bad.. if the offense can't do better than this, we got bigger issues than the jet sweep.

Umm... there aren't 178 teams.. not sure where you got that from

 

[NikkiSixx]

Umm... there aren't 178 teams.. not sure where you got that from

it's from the yahoo sports page
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/teams/nnd/

Not sure the actual number is important, but overall it shows how bad the offense was last year.. All I'm saying is the jet sweep should be the least of anyone's concerns going into this season.

 

[timnsun]

it's from the yahoo sports page
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/teams/nnd/

Not sure the actual number is important, but overall it shows how bad the offense was last year.. All I'm saying is the jet sweep should be the least of anyone's concerns going into this season.

No question our offense was bad last year. Some of us, however, see the potential for significant improvement on offense. If we have a healthy and deeper Oline to go alon with a QB who is better suited to run this offense, there's no reason to think we won't be much improved. And with that said, the OP was asking about how effective the jet sweep will be in 2017.

But that's the last thing we should be talking about. So if we can't talk about that, what can we talk about? A list of topics would be nice... thanks in advance.

 

[Hoosker Du]

It's obvious the HCMR will always want the jet sweep to be a part of his offensive package. I think most of us would agree that it was largely ineffective last year. I see a few reasons that this play may be measurably better this coming season.

1. Personnel of the ball carrier - Alonzo Moore, Westy, and Reilly never looked fluid or dynamic (at least to me) on this type of run. I look for DPE and Spielman to be quicker and much more explosive to hit the edge with more aggression and a better ability to change direction or cut it up.

2. Quarterback under center more often. I think that opposing defenses keyed on our tendency that we liked to run the jet sweep from under center. The fact that we weren't under center much meant that there was a higher percentage chance that our tendency would hold true. If we are under center more often, that percentage will go down, as I don't believe we will run the jet sweep any more often than we did previously.

3. An increase in misdirection, screens, and backfield passes will keep defenses more honest. This kinda goes along with #2, but if we can keep the defenses from cheating up due to screens, TE usage, and RB checkdowns, I don't think the safeties and ILB can jump as quick as they did last year, or leave themselves open to Langs setting them up as the game goes along. TA was awful at these "timing" plays. We should be significantly more effective with them this season with either Lee or POB.


Thoughts?

DPE ran it a number of times last year, and the results were quite bad. I'm hopeful he has gained some of his on field confidence back. Goodness knows his off the field confidence didn't suffer much at all.

 

[jimbosc]

DPE has shown flashes of his former self but clearly he was not 100% back last season - my guess is that was more mental than physical....that and the fact we were TERRIBLE at blocking punt returns - never game him a chance to have that big game that restores his confidence. Hopefully he has that game early in 2017 - or we find someone else to provide the big play spark. We need it - forcing a D to take away somebody opens up ALOT of options including the Jet Sweep.

 

[NikkiSixx]

No question our offense was bad last year. Some of us, however, see the potential for significant improvement on offense. If we have a healthy and deeper Oline to go alon with a QB who is better suited to run this offense, there's no reason to think we won't be much improved. And with that said, the OP was asking about how effective the jet sweep will be in 2017.

But that's the last thing we should be talking about. So if we can't talk about that, what can we talk about? A list of topics would be nice... thanks in advance.

I said it should be the least of people's concerns, you can talk about it all you want. Look, the jet sweep is all hat, no cattle, and has been for the last two years.. it isn't going to change or have any measurable impact on the 2017 offense.

 

[ConvenientParking]

We're thinking about changing things up at Iowa and running the inside guard trap. In addition to zone blocking. What you can do with being known for perfect execution of the trap is unimaginable. You can sweep with two guards. You can reverse (inside) with influence action and a capable backfield. You can showboat by running blast. You can even Jet sweep with a slot guy.