https://rivals.yahoo.com/nebraska/football/recruiting/player-Marcel-Southall-178663 Trent Bray lead recruiter. He's big Suh fan.
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Not to be a wet blanket here but looking over our commit list does not really show that. Our current commits look more like OSU than what we normally get. I like what Riley has done so far but I am concerned with our overall commit quality at this point. Am I missing something? And I do not mean that sarcastically.
I couldn't agree more. I don't understand the board's displays of unbridled enthusiasm, regardless of basis in fact, for all things Riley. Optimism is one thing but c'mon.
Like the comment above about Bray being national recruiter of the year "if he snags a few big time players." Well, that's a big "if."
Just a quick comparison (done quickly, so may not be 100% accurate on dates of commit)
Our current class:
5.8 (2) - both have nice offer lists
5.7 (3) - one has a nice offer list, one is JUCO, one has ok offers, but was in the Elite 11
5.6 (4) - all 4 have nice offer lists
5.5 (4) - one has a nice offer list, two have decent lists (P5 offers), one has a mediocre offer list
5.4 (1) - has a mediocre offer list, but includes one P5 offer
2015 class at this time:
5.9 (1) - has decent offer list
5.8 (2) - one has nice offer list, one has decent offer list
5.7 (2) - both have nice offer lists
5.6 (4) - three have nice offer lists, one has a mediocre offer list
2014 class at this time:
5.9 (1) - has nice offer list
5.8 (1) - has nice offer list
5.7 (1) - has nice offer list
5.6 (4) - two have decent lists (P5 offers), two has a mediocre offer list
5.5 (3) - all three have decent lists (P5 offers)
5.4 (1) - kicker
2013 class at this time:
5.8 (2) - has nice offer lists
5.7 (6) - all 6 have nice offer lists
5.6 (1) - has decent list
5.5 (3) - all three have decent lists (P5 offers)
5.3 (1) - long snapper
I think we can win with the same overall talent that Bo had if you mix in better coaching, improved roster management that doesn't leave key positions with no depth and an actual QB playing QB. Michigan state and Wisconsin are prime examples. If people think we are going to go toe to toe with Ohio state, LSU etc for recruits they are delusional.
2012 class at this time:
5.9 (1) - has nice offer list
5.8 (3) - all have nice offer lists
5.7 (1) - has nice offer list
5.5 (1) - poor offer list
They all look similar to me. By no means worse. There has been speculation of ratings bumps, but who knows about that.
5.9 (1) - has nice offer list
5.8 (3) - all have nice offer lists
5.7 (1) - has nice offer list
5.5 (1) - poor offer list
They all look similar to me. By no means worse. There has been speculation of ratings bumps, but who knows about that.
Thanks A lot for spending the time preparing this analysis. It shows MR & staff are already recruiting better than Bo's typical year "At This Point". On field performance will be critical for elite top 10-12 recruiting success, however, that never stopped Callahan.
I don't think Nebraska a is going to ever be a perennial top 5- top 10 team again.
You get your handful of 4 stars, the rest of the class is 3 stars and every so often you get an unusually high percentage of recruits that "hit" and with a playmaker at QB you make your 2-3 year run. In the "off" years you hover in the back half of the top 20 and wait for the next time the stars align.
You get your handful of 4 stars, the rest of the class is 3 stars and every so often you get an unusually high percentage of recruits that "hit" and with a playmaker at QB you make your 2-3 year run. In the "off" years you hover in the back half of the top 20 and wait for the next time the stars align.
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I am sure you love to agree and try and downplay everything now that Blo is gone. Except none of those claims have any factual basis, and your agenda shines brightly.
The key is getting difference makers in your front 7 on defense, QB, and offensive linemen. Those spots are where you compete for championships. If guys like Amari Cooper or Adrian Peterson want to come to Nebraska, to take them. But you don't need them to win championships.
I never really followed recruiting, so I took people literally that pelini's recruiting was horrible. I just expected more or better results with pelini gone. It doesn't look significantly different.
If we are going to recruit 25(?) or so guys this year, I'd rather be getting them now then scrambling in February. Don't take that as an endorsement. There may be other ways to see interest in NU, but using Rivals, there's not 25+ guys lining up for us. Smothers committed to WVU, Eletise committed to AZ, Juarez is at best a low percentage flip, and Wilson is a possible flip to Oregon. But, there are still some of the higher rated players still interested in NU.
So, some people are taking the optimistic approach. It lends another perspective and we can at least consider the possibilities. Pelini's worst recruiting ranking was 32nd, let's hope we can do better than that.
Stevenson was a big get, beating out Alabama and Miami. We're in on a number of big names for next year. Have a shot at the top rated linebacker in the country this year. They sealed the commitment of most of the highly rated players from Bo's last class, adding a 4* offensive lineman from Oklahoma. Dismuke this year. You can focus on the diamonds in the rough if you want, but there's plenty of evidence to suggest this staff can remain competitive recruiting with other big programs. Bo's staff hardly even tried unless the kid was a legacy or had ties to the program.
Maybe the difference is simply that I don't see a reason not to be optimistic, and I take all of the above as reason to be optimistic. I'm excited to see what the new staff can do, and until they show that they really can't compete in recruiting with other top programs, I'm going to believe we have a shot.
For now, this would be true. However, if MR keeps us climbing the ladder each year, we could get there in a few years. Granted, it will take some steady strides, momentum-building and some luck...but I could see it happening. The downside is that it kinda needs to happen soon because MR won't be here forever.
Pity poor digits and dots, looking for Bo love in all the wrong places. Angry troll.
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anon_umk0ifu6vj6zi
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No, I am just good at finding the recycled Blo-ners like yourself. So sad that you keep coming back and only cared for a coach, not the good of the program. Too narrow minded to understand facts, and you got controlled by a lunatic. I compare it to battered wife syndrome. It's ok though, maybe one day you will find the strength to move on to a healthy mindset toward the school and program you claim to be a fan of.
But if not, I suppose you can wish for Riley to talk crap and trash this place to like-minded thinkers like yourself. Because if that is true, I will be ready for him to leave as well. Because I have some pride left, and want the school and program to begin to get some respect back.
Dude, you're coming unhinged. Where do you come up with this stuff. You brought up Bo, not me.
Find me a single post of mine praising Bo or wanting him back. You won't, because I think he needed to be fired for the good of the program, 9 or 10 wins notwithstanding. He acted like a lunatic, and to me looked he was overwhelmed by the job's pressures.
And while you are looking to prove these statements wrong, find me the posts where I wish for Riley's failure. I guess it's just to much for you to see past your Bo-hatred to handle questions about whether a sexagenarian with a barely .500 record, hearing rumblings about his own position, was the best available coach upon Bo's firing.
Give me a break.
Edit: And you must have forgotten that the last time you accused me of being a "recycled" poster I noted I've been on the Board longer than you. But reading and reality are not your strong points.
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Your track record speaks for itself. Just like mine does. In this very last post you took another shot at Riley. Your bullshit about recruiting being the same as when he was at Oregon State has been proven to be completely fabricated. Keep trying. He is in a different place, keep up the backhanded insults. I will join you in due time if he acts like the last 2 jackasses.
Rivals hasnt updated there recuits ina while and really really need to. On other sites, ESPN for example has us wiyh 4 or 5 4 star guys with the rest 3 stars, both QBs we have will be 4 stars and DE Alexander us a 4 star on ESPNs recuiting site and i bet they get it on Rivals to, if they ever update the stars again. So this staff isnt exactly bombing it and we are also in ob a bunch of 4 star guys and a 5 star LB which is visiting for the BYU game, so we have a chance with this dude.
Hes dead on, your only going to get certain level recuits at OSU, anyone with a brain knows that, i dont care if its U Meyer or N Saban at OSU Beavers, they would of landes simular level recuits. Want to admit it or not, the team its self sells its self to big time recruits. Sorry but you wont see a bunch of 5 star guys lining up to sign with the Beavers no matter who the coach is.
