Tennessee coaching search updates (Currie fired, Fulmer hired, Pruitt update post # 356)

Discussion in 'Husker Board' started by coachDubs, Nov 26, 2017.

  1. c2o

    c2o Defensive Coordinator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2009
    Messages:
    7,516
    Likes Received:
    4,871
    Location:
    Uptown
    Tennessee fans shouldn't have to google him.
     
    newAD likes this.
  2. TheNewNU

    TheNewNU Blackshirt
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2014
    Messages:
    3,067
    Likes Received:
    3,441
    I think I would have rather had Schiano.
     
  3. firm_bizzle

    firm_bizzle Walk On
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2008
    Messages:
    178
    Likes Received:
    68
  4. SkerinDallas

    SkerinDallas Redshirt Freshman
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2010
    Messages:
    634
    Likes Received:
    652
    They should have just hired Tee Martin. Unless they are waiting to see what he does as a head coach somewhere. But, damn, what a dumpster fire in Tennessee. Why would any fan, anywhere, want a 0 experience HC over a well-proven college HC in Schiano? BS PSU excuses aside. Either they really thought Gruden was coming, or they have grown used to living in the crapper.
     
    maplesyrup95 and TheNewNU like this.
  5. oldjar07

    oldjar07 Blackshirt
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2009
    Messages:
    3,487
    Likes Received:
    1,970
    Pruitt's a great hire. He is probably the best assistant coach out there, the guy knows how to coach and is successful everywhere he goes. Tennessee couldn't have asked for much better.
     
  6. barney44

    barney44 Graduate Assistant
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2005
    Messages:
    5,860
    Likes Received:
    4,590
    Location:
    Nebraska
    The changes in coaching this season have been crazy...
     
  7. Mack In Motion

    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2001
    Messages:
    2,086
    Likes Received:
    3,507
    I hope Schiano goes somewhere and spends the rest of his career kicking their asses. Not because I particularly like Schiano, but because they tarred and feathered him in their town square on third or fourth hand “overheard” information.
     
  8. hddude55

    hddude55 Defensive Coordinator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    7,609
    Likes Received:
    1,258
    Location:
    Arizona
    This has to set a Rivals record for longest thread about an opponent last played twenty years ago. But we might play them in 2038 so it’s never too soon to keep close track of their coaching search.
     
  9. MOhusker12

    MOhusker12 Redshirt Freshman
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2010
    Messages:
    876
    Likes Received:
    1,240
    I think you are spot on playing them in 2038, that is why they hurried so quickly to hire a coach, so that he would have them ready to play by then.Laughing
     
  10. coachDubs

    coachDubs Sophomore
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2016
    Messages:
    1,260
    Likes Received:
    2,210
    Music City bowl, 2016 season.
     
    timnsun, mel mains and WHCSC like this.
  11. 9and4

    9and4 Junior
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2013
    Messages:
    1,870
    Likes Received:
    2,623
    Location:
    Iowa City
    Jeremy Pruitt first learns about asparagus at age 31.

    "Ain't never heard of it." Good fit for Tennessee.

     
    GretnaShawn and gw2kpro like this.
  12. gw2kpro

    gw2kpro Blackshirt
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2007
    Messages:
    3,178
    Likes Received:
    1,579
    I'm not sure why that's so funny............ but it is.
     
  13. NebChicago

    NebChicago Walk On
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2009
    Messages:
    387
    Likes Received:
    193
    I dont understand the passionate defense of Schiano? I think the fans response was well reasoned. McQueary is the one who made the allegation, and he appeared to be the only honest broker in that whole viper pit. He's the one who uncovered the whole disturbing PSU abuses and cover up. Id believe McQueary before Schiano.

    Any smart AD should weigh the risk of that hire knowing what rumors are out there and opt to go a different way.
     
  14. GretnaShawn

    GretnaShawn Graduate Assistant
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2010
    Messages:
    5,412
    Likes Received:
    4,661
    Because McQueary said that he heard from somebody that Shaino knew. Not that he knew that Shiano knew, but somebody said that he did. And that person was later interviewed and said that he never said Shaino knew.
     
  15. NebChicago

    NebChicago Walk On
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2009
    Messages:
    387
    Likes Received:
    193
    I think that coaching staff proved to be untrustworthy. So why would you believe their response. And it was in Tom Bradley's best interest to say he didn't say as much. Why would McQueery make that up? He's the only one who told the truth.
     
  16. GretnaShawn

    GretnaShawn Graduate Assistant
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2010
    Messages:
    5,412
    Likes Received:
    4,661
    It seems like pretty flimsy evidence to me. Pretty he said/she said. Which is a hard thing to convict a guy on, even if it is just the court of public opinion.

    I also don't trust McQueary more than anybody else. Yes, he went to the top of the organization with what he saw. But after it went nowhere he never reported that he saw a man raping a boy in a shower to the police. And then kept it secrete for decades. He isn't somebody I would count as trustworthy.
     
    huskerhooligansdotcom likes this.
  17. NebChicago

    NebChicago Walk On
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2009
    Messages:
    387
    Likes Received:
    193
    Why would he lie about Schiano and Bradley?
     
  18. GretnaShawn

    GretnaShawn Graduate Assistant
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2010
    Messages:
    5,412
    Likes Received:
    4,661
    Maybe he didn't lie. Maybe he misheard or misremembered.

    Or maybe he lied because he didn't want to be seen as one of the only guys that knew and didn't go to the police.

    I have no idea the truth. But he heard that somebody else knew is pretty weak evidence to ruin a guys career over.
     
    newAD likes this.
  19. hddude55

    hddude55 Defensive Coordinator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    7,609
    Likes Received:
    1,258
    Location:
    Arizona
    I think the fact I forgot about that game speaks more to the state of our program since 2001 than my bad memory. As for the true reason for my reply to your note, I’m trying to get this record breaking meaningless Tennessee thread up to 11 pages.
     
  20. NebChicago

    NebChicago Walk On
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2009
    Messages:
    387
    Likes Received:
    193
    Ironically McQueery has been the most harmed in terms of his career. The only one to step fwd. This article quotes the deposition in question:
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...see-rutgers-national-media-reaction-misguided

    McQueery is pretty vivid in his recollection of his convo with Bradley. Don’t know how someone would craft that for no reason. That would be enough for me not to hire Schiano over numerous coaches with better pedigrees and records. Not to mention the shit show he ran in TB (staph infections/mutinies). Completely stupid move on Curries part. You think Husker fans would’ve been pleased with a Schiano hire?

    And Schiano is still DC for OSU... there are worse fates. I fail to see how he’s been so greatly harmed.
     
    dinglefritz likes this.
  21. WHCSC

    WHCSC Senior
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2002
    Messages:
    2,895
    Likes Received:
    3,025
    Bo to Bama DC?
     
  22. newAD

    newAD Head Coach
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2007
    Messages:
    11,055
    Likes Received:
    5,776
    Location:
    Omaha
    That is what I have an issue with. If you witness something as crazy as that, (in 2001) which is illegal and flat out immoral, you don't need to tell your boss. You call the freaking police, then tell your boss. You just witnessed a crime. Let those who investigate crimes investigate it. You don't drop it on your boss' lap and expect something to be done, and then claim, "Well I told my boss." We're not talking about sleeping on the job, or taking too long a lunch break, its a felony. It is not a University issue, it was an issue for law enforcement and the courts. Go to your boss, tell him, "I just called the police. They are on the way. I just saw ........" You don't tell a person who could be completely biased to not believe it.

    Here's another issue I have. You are Schiano. You were at PSU from 91-95. That overlapped McQueary's playing time there, but McQueary returned as recruiting coordinator in 2000, and then coaching staff in 2004. Even if McQueary is 100% correct with what he allegedly heard from Bradley, that is hearsay. It is inadmissible. It is also McQueary recalling an alleged conversation from approximately 7-8 years prior with Bradley, recalling an alleged conversation between Bradley and Schiano had approximately 10 years prior to that.

    I'm not saying there is no way Schiano didn't know something. I'm saying that is pretty flimsy proof, and it'd never hold up in court. If McQueary saw what he saw regarding Sandusky (a revered figure at PSU at the time) in 2001, and he kept in inside for years, do you think he'd be a bit stressed about it? If you automatically assume that McQueary is correct about his memory about a verbal conversation, you have to consider the possibility that he was mistaken about what he thought he heard. Maybe Bradley said something else?

    As best as I have been able to find is McQueary's quote was that Bradley had heard stories about Sandusky, "doing something with a boy." What does that mean?

    I believe people there post 2001 likely heard rumors (but had no evidence). But to just assume that anyone at PSU that was there during the time Sandusky was there is implicit in covering up Sandusky's crimes is lacking evidence (to my knowledge). It's possible, those before 2001 did, but prove who.

    That being said, I'd love to see Schiano, Bradley, and other staff members from that era take polygraph tests. Again, can't be used in court, but I strongly believe in them when conducted by an experienced examiner. I've had to take a few for employment and observed numerous ones being conducted.
     
    GretnaShawn likes this.
  23. hddude55

    hddude55 Defensive Coordinator
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    7,609
    Likes Received:
    1,258
    Location:
    Arizona
    Bo for Bama write in US Senator?
     
  24. coachDubs

    coachDubs Sophomore
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2016
    Messages:
    1,260
    Likes Received:
    2,210
    I applaud everyone on here for keeping this thread active with updates and comments instead of starting a new thread every time something happened. I wish it happened more often with subject title edits for pertinent updates.
     
    SOHusker11 likes this.
  25. NebChicago

    NebChicago Walk On
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2009
    Messages:
    387
    Likes Received:
    193
    My point is this... we’re not talking about convicting Schiano, we’re talking about hiring him for a big HC job. A job where you want him to be a person who does the right thing. For better or worse, proveable or not, his name was uttered in tandem with the grossest most immoral travesty in NCAA history. With numerous layers of cover up and intentional negligence. As an AD you would have to be a moron not to see the backlash coming. Or at least weigh the risk. It was a poorly thought through hire
     
  26. newAD

    newAD Head Coach
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2007
    Messages:
    11,055
    Likes Received:
    5,776
    Location:
    Omaha
    I get the Tennessee fan base was delusional thinking they could get Gruden. So they raised hell, and looked for an easy excuse. That is what this is all about.

    It's funny I don't remember mass protests in Columbus after he was hired there.
     
    GretnaShawn likes this.
  27. GretnaShawn

    GretnaShawn Graduate Assistant
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2010
    Messages:
    5,412
    Likes Received:
    4,661
    I agree with this. The protests looked a lot like virtue signally masked by disappointment in not getting a better hire.
     
    newAD likes this.
  28. newAD

    newAD Head Coach
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2007
    Messages:
    11,055
    Likes Received:
    5,776
    Location:
    Omaha
    Funny how no one (as far as I can tell) is complaining about the hire of a Defensive Coordinator from one of the top schools in the country when the job went unfilled for how long, and they were the butt of jokes across the country.
     
    dinglefritz and GretnaShawn like this.
  29. SoFL Husker

    SoFL Husker Defensive Coordinator
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2017
    Messages:
    7,936
    Likes Received:
    4,186
    Pruitt is a good hire. Proven SEC guy with solid recruiting skills. Having worked under Saban can't hurt his chances at future success. Good option for the Vols. Doesn't fit the narrative of this thread which is a general dump on all things Tennessee/SEC but the fact remains. And Schiano still sucks.
     
  30. SoFL Husker

    SoFL Husker Defensive Coordinator
    Gold Member
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2017
    Messages:
    7,936
    Likes Received:
    4,186
    What part of this guy's resume is off for a top SEC HC job???

    Leach is the ultimate wildcard. UT got a safer bet, with upside.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Pruitt
     
  31. WHCSC

    WHCSC Senior
    Expand Collapse

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2002
    Messages:
    2,895
    Likes Received:
    3,025
    He's got a little bit of Leach's crazy in him too
     

Share This Page