Tarin Smith leaving
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More than likely, didn't want to play the 2 going forward, he wants to run an offense. That's what I was told in January, haven't heard anything different.
Expect one more.
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That would be odd, because Coach Miles worked hard in getting him to come to Lincoln.
Kid is good it has to be his decision to leave not Coach Miles.
I don't know for sure, but he couldn't have been happy with his role in the offense. No transition game to speak of and how much fun would it to play "point guard" and not get to get the team started in the offense? Miles' offense, if you want to call it that, this year really didn't use a point guard to initiate the action. Usually the point guard would hand the ball to Petteway or Shields and run to the ball side corner. How much fun is that?
This is a big loss for the program. Getting sick of not keeping recruits around for four years. Same old sh... crap that Doc Sadler had. Small lineup with a failure to recruit good posts and frequent transfers. Miles is a good coach but this has not been a positive year.
This post was edited on 3/31 7:16 PM by Dean Pope
big loss, lmgdfao, go watch some video of Gylnn Watson then edit your response.
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This tells me that Miles is extremely high on Watson coming in as a freshman. If you were to look at Tai Webster after his freshman season at PG compared with Tarin Smith coming off his freshman season at PG, I would be likely to see more upside from Tarin Smith. Now one premise here that we tend to take is that Miles is an active part in these transfers (aka, he tells a player that it's in his best interest to look elsewhere.)
Now it's possible that Tarin isn't pleased with the coach, the team, his position on the team, etc. If that's the case, there's very little that can be done. I just think if Miles saw great potential in Tarin Smith that he would have put a full court press to keep him here.
My best hope is that Miles is actively putting together a team with the type of players he feels is necessary to elevate and build a team. It was no mystery that Miles was frustrated by the team's inability to shoot the ball. Hopefully the team next year has more of the look of a team that passes the ball in rhythm and can actually knock down the outside shot. If we have more isolation, one on one reliance on the ability to drive to the rack, next season could be even worse.
Now it's possible that Tarin isn't pleased with the coach, the team, his position on the team, etc. If that's the case, there's very little that can be done. I just think if Miles saw great potential in Tarin Smith that he would have put a full court press to keep him here.
My best hope is that Miles is actively putting together a team with the type of players he feels is necessary to elevate and build a team. It was no mystery that Miles was frustrated by the team's inability to shoot the ball. Hopefully the team next year has more of the look of a team that passes the ball in rhythm and can actually knock down the outside shot. If we have more isolation, one on one reliance on the ability to drive to the rack, next season could be even worse.
Tarin looked like he could have been a pretty good 2. It didn't look to me like he had the necessary skillset to be a top flight point in the B1G. He did some nice things on the bounce taking the ball to the hoop, but he struggled against the press at times. He could have been a Ray Gallegos type of player for us perhaps if he had stayed. It sounds to me like there was more to his decision to leave than purely basketball. He's an east coast kid and his family was involved with his decision. Hate to lose him but his skillset isn't that difficult to replace.
Miles has been here for 3 years now....2.5 which have been mediocre to absolute crap....if he has another 2 years like that his seat will get very warm. Hopefully some roster stability leads to results on the court
No kidding. How quickly people have forgotten how terrible the basketball program was a few years ago. The NCAA tourney bid has become a negative to Miles because it made fans forget the Sadler years.
Miles first year should not count, he inherited a dumpster fire. Year two, he defies the odds and blasts the expectations out of the water. Year three, there is a let down only due to the previous years success. If year two was a steady improvement, year three would have been seen as either improvement or the same as year two.
By my count, 1 great year, 1 slightly disappointing year and 1 year that John Wooden couldn't have made a success, so it doesn't count.
This post was edited on 4/1 9:45 AM by GretnaShawn
Easy...last year was crap then they got on a roll which in hindsight was a fluke but a fluke that led to a tourney bid....half of the season was really mediocre and the back half was great. He has coached for 3 years and for 2.5 or so its been not so great. Have to figure he gets two more and if the program is in the same place after 5 years it might be time for a new coach.
Yeah so this logic is stupid. Miles and his staff were coaching the team the ENTIRE time, and used observations regarding play/personalities/roster management (etc.) to get the most from our guys down the stretch. You don't get to bifurcate the season to fit your narrative.
Year One - who care he inherited a dumpster fire.
Year Two - big success.
Year Three - disappointment on the court but very encouraging recruiting
and we move forward.
I agree that player turnover is something to keep an eye on; however, I'm not ready to call it a problem. It was very clear that we had chemistry issues this year. Last year kicking a guy off the team led to our NCAA run. Let's see what happens after this shake up.
One doesn't get to choose what constitutes a season. And one sure as heck doesn't get to nitpick "first half of the season" compared to the "last half of the season" to conclude the success of a coach after three years. You play 30-ish regular season games, and a conference tournament for a reason. Had Nebraska finished 5 games under .500 in conference play, won the B1G tournament to get the automatic bid then yes, one could easily make a case about a fluke or not.
Using your ridiculous logic, one could break down the season as 10% early on, 10% middle, 40% late, etc, etc, etc.
It's a good thing Tom Izzo isn't judged by this standard. He's only half as good of a coach as he has made us all believe he is. What a facade!Originally posted by HuskerTimOmaha:
You're trying way too hard, and stumbling.
One doesn't get to choose what constitutes a season. And one sure as heck doesn't get to nitpick "first half of the season" compared to the "last half of the season" to conclude the success of a coach after three years. You play 30-ish regular season games, and a conference tournament for a reason. Had Nebraska finished 5 games under .500 in conference play, won the B1G tournament to get the automatic bid then yes, one could easily make a case about a fluke or not.
Using your ridiculous logic, one could break down the season as 10% early on, 10% middle, 40% late, etc, etc, etc.
Izzo's teams, in general, struggle somewhat in the first half of many seasons. This year is a prime example. There are plenty of others where his teams start playing very good basketball when it means the most. I agree with HTO, you play the entire season for a reason and you judge the season based on final outcome, not on a few November losses.
Just pure speculation on my part but the part, but the not wanting to play the 2 was a concern of once Watson committed. I dont know if Smith would be the solution at the 1, but I'm disappointed that we'll never get a chance to see what he could do at the 2 with Watson if that is what TM was planning. I think Smith would be a very good 2, but if he's hell bent on being a 1, and didn't want to be here if he wasn't going to be the 1, then I wish the kid luck. Transfers in inevitable at every program. At this point, I trust TM.
HTO any cryptic hints on your last sentence?
Smith was not really highly regarded. But, if he would have stuck it out I think he could have ended up being a good one.
I actually thought Miles did a GREAT job in Year 1. That team was very competitive with zero talent. This year was a complete disaster.
I am also of the belief that losing some players from this team will be a positive, this team clearly needs some turnover (off the court).
Widely rumored since spring break is over that Petteway is gone.
My reference is another player, can't get confirmation though.
I'm fine with that interpretation. I was just trying to note that nobody should care too much about (perceived) lack of accomplishments in year one given what Miles inherited.
thought they did the best they could with what they had in year 1. Ubel was significantly better than he had been the prev 3 years, which gave me some hope when it came to developing offensive players. Year 2, more of the same. Year 3 and now you have to question offensive development.
When your program is where NU's was at, you don't get the highly talented guys with no issues to your program. Miles took some guys that had some problems elsewhere in order to be able to field some sort of competitive team. It worked for a year. Now we have to develop some new kids. No worries. He'll get there.
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