Tanner Lee cleared

[Husker.Wed.]

Sounds like he will be cleared to play. Since Penn St is tied for 17th in sacks, I was thinking we might have a better chance with POB. On the other hand, it is an intimidating place for a first time starter to play.

Nebraska BTW is 116th in sacks

 

[SoFL Husker]

Crap.

Would have liked to have seen POB get a shot, to give him some hope, at sticking around.

The more options at QB the better, IMO

 

[Husker Sledge]

This game is gonna be brutal.

 

[meo1960]

Sounds like he will be cleared to play. Since Penn St is tied for 17th in sacks, I was thinking we might have a better chance with POB. On the other hand, it is an intimidating place for a first time starter to play.

Nebraska BTW is 116th in sacks

116th in sacks? So your saying................................it could be worse ;0)

 

[cubsker]

i don't see any way POB gives us a better chance than Lee

 

[redfanusa]

If he has a concussion, they need to salvage what shred of respect people have for them and keep him OUT of the game. Playing an injured athlete in a game that is 99.995% guaranteed to be a total blowout is just wrong.

 

[Cloud@Heart]

If lee gives us a better chance to compete with the Hawkeyes, you sit him against psu, in my opinion.

 

[SkerinDallas]

If lee gives us a better chance to compete with the Hawkeyes, you sit him against psu, in my opinion.

I don't see how this has any relevancy. We have a kid here who had a migraine and was supposedly vomiting during last weeks game. That is an obvious concussion. Given the shit show we have seen this season, there is no reason to risk the health of one of our players, especially one that is likely declaring at the end of the season. For Lee's sake, even if he doesn't agree, he should probably sit the rest of the season.

 

[shine003]

If he has a concussion, they need to salvage what shred of respect people have for them and keep him OUT of the game. Playing an injured athlete in a game that is 99.995% guaranteed to be a total blowout is just wrong.

Cleared means not injured...concussion protocols are pretty conservative these days. If the medical staff says he’s ok, let him play

 

[dand84]

Nebraska BTW is 116th in sacks

Strange, what have we done on defense to be ranked that high in sacks?

 

[TarheelHuskerFan]

We've had a sack?

 

[bleed husker red]

Our o line lined Big Macs

 

[timnsun]

I don't see how this has any relevancy. We have a kid here who had a migraine and was supposedly vomiting during last weeks game. That is an obvious concussion. Given the shit show we have seen this season, there is no reason to risk the health of one of our players, especially one that is likely declaring at the end of the season. For Lee's sake, even if he doesn't agree, he should probably sit the rest of the season.

Let’s say Nebraska was 9-1 at this point and Lee was cleared by the doctors to play. Should he still sit for the rest of the season?

 

[TruHusker]

If he has a concussion, they need to salvage what shred of respect people have for them and keep him OUT of the game. Playing an injured athlete in a game that is 99.995% guaranteed to be a total blowout is just wrong.

What do you mean "if"? He has gone through extensive testing to make certain he is 100%. You do know that they try to eliminate team bias by not relying on team doctors to make the decisions. The liability of playing a player you even suspect has a concussion is not remotely worth the risk.

 

[HuskerHusaria]

We've had a sack?

We sacked SE earlier this season...

 

[GeauxBigRed]

If he has a concussion, they need to salvage what shred of respect people have for them and keep him OUT of the game. Playing an injured athlete in a game that is 99.995% guaranteed to be a total blowout is just wrong.

For you to even insinuate that Mike Riley would put Tanner Lee in harms way on purpose like that is at the very least ignorant.

 

[timnsun]

For you to even insinuate that Mike Riley would put Tanner Lee in harms way on purpose like that is at the very least ignorant.

I think he’s just laying the groundwork to fire Riley before the season ends. The only way moos will fire Riley is if he does something wrong. This would do it.

 

[Bugeater]

Let’s say Nebraska was 9-1 at this point and Lee was cleared by the doctors to play. Should he still sit for the rest of the season?

Yes.

 

[timnsun]

Yes.

Doctors cleared him. He is medically fit to play. And you would sit him if we were 9-1 fighting for a conference championship and a spot in the playoffs? Whatever.

The coach isn’t being paid millions to sit starters who are cleared to play.

 

[gw2kpro]

The coach isn’t being paid millions to sit starters who are cleared to play.

Agreed.

He's being paid millions to....... ummmm........ hmmm....... never mind. Not sure where I was going

 

[timnsun]

Agreed.

He's being paid millions to....... ummmm........ hmmm....... never mind. Not sure where I was going

Not sure the coaches know either.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

What do you mean "if"? He has gone through extensive testing to make certain he is 100%. You do know that they try to eliminate team bias by not relying on team doctors to make the decisions. The liability of playing a player you even suspect has a concussion is not remotely worth the risk.

This still makes me wonder what the hell was the deal with Tommy Armstrong last year after the OSU game?

 

[HuskerHusaria]

This still makes me wonder what the hell was the deal with Tommy Armstrong last year after the OSU game?

Maybe Tommy lied at his own expense for the benefit of the team? He was determined, proud, and willing to give his body for his brothers. If true, he played well below 100% and still was a baller. It's what I'd do if I were in his shoes.

 

[Bugeater]

Doctors cleared him. He is medically fit to play. And you would sit him if we were 9-1 fighting for a conference championship and a spot in the playoffs? Whatever.

The coach isn’t being paid millions to sit starters who are cleared to play.

Guess you don’t pay attention to the risks of getting another concussion within a week, but you go ahead and roll the dice on the health of a player. Just because he’s cleared doesn’t mean he’s 100% healthy, and there’s plenty of medical evidence to back that up. But like you said, whatever.

 

[Cornicator]

If you take away Nebraska's 5 sacks against a dreadful Illinois offensive line, the Huskers would be tied for dead last with UTEP.

 

[HuskerHusaria]

If you take away Nebraska's 5 sacks against a dreadful Illinois offensive line, the Huskers would be tied for dead last with UTEP.

That is putrid. Thanks for sharing that stat.

 

[timnsun]

Guess you don’t pay attention to the risks of getting another concussion within a week, but you go ahead and roll the dice on the health of a player. Just because he’s cleared doesn’t mean he’s 100% healthy, and there’s plenty of medical evidence to back that up. But like you said, whatever.

Then why is he cleared, Dr. bugeater? You know more than the Drs who cleared him. Why are they allowed to practice medicine?

 

[Bugeater]

Then why is he cleared, Dr. bugeater? You know more than the Drs who cleared him. Why are they allowed to practice medicine?

Just because he’s cleared doesn’t mean his brain is 100% healed, but it seems you’re quite ignorant of that fact. Much like an ankle, shoulder, or knee sprain, injuries that take time to get back to 100%, so it is with your brain.

Bottom line is, you’d play him, I wouldn’t. And the mounting evidence concerning brain injuries says sitting a player for at least one week certainly is safer than your way of thinking, especially since Nebraska isn’t 9-1.

You also stated that coaches are paid millions to play their starters, and that’s true. But they’re also paid millions to consider the health and safety of their players, and if sitting a player who just had a concussion chaps your hide, too bad, that’s where football is headed with concussions, whether you like it or not.

We’ll just have to disagree on this.

 

[Trojanhorse13]

If the medical community cleared him to play, then I would say he's good to play. I'm sure he is symptom free and passed his post injury baseline test.

 

[timnsun]

Just because he’s cleared doesn’t mean his brain is 100% healed, but it seems you’re quite ignorant of that fact. Much like an ankle, shoulder, or knee sprain, injuries that take time to get back to 100%, so it is with your brain.

Bottom line is, you’d play him, I wouldn’t. And the mounting evidence concerning brain injuries says sitting a player for at least one week certainly is safer than your way of thinking, especially since Nebraska isn’t 9-1.

You also stated that coaches are paid millions to play their starters, and that’s true. But they’re also paid millions to consider the health and safety of their players, and if sitting a player who just had a concussion chaps your hide, too bad, that’s where football is headed with concussions, whether you like it or not.

We’ll just have to disagree on this.

I’m not a doctor, so I have no dog in the fight. But doctors, whose job it is to say whether he can play or not, have said he can play. I seriously don’t get the issue here. Either he’s medically cleared or he isn’t. You are citing evidence that, I’m assuming, these doctors have as well. Why aren’t they saying he should sit?

Are you a doctor? Do you know better than the doctors that have examined him?

All I’m saying is someone who is an expert in the field of medicine has said he is good to go. And you (someone who evidently plays a doctor on tv) say he shouldn’t.

I guarantee you if this were Alabama, Florida State, Clemson, USC, Washington, Ohio State, or any other school in the nation, and I emphasize ANY OTHER SCHOOL, who were 9-1 and fighting for conference and national championships, and the coach sat their medically cleared starting QB, there would be hell to pay and you know it.

But you look good on your soapbox, so by all means, keep it up.

 

[timnsun]

I’m not a doctor, so I have no dog in the fight. But doctors, whose job it is to say whether he can play or not, have said he can play. I seriously don’t get the issue here. Either he’s medically cleared or he isn’t. You are citing evidence that, I’m assuming, these doctors have as well. Why aren’t they saying he should sit?

Are you a doctor? Do you know better than the doctors that have examined him?

All I’m saying is someone who is an expert in the field of medicine has said he is good to go. And you (someone who evidently plays a doctor on tv) say he shouldn’t.

I guarantee you if this were Alabama, Florida State, Clemson, USC, Washington, Ohio State, or any other school in the nation, and I emphasize ANY OTHER SCHOOL, who were 9-1 and fighting for conference and national championships, and the coach sat their medically cleared starting QB, there would be hell to pay and you know it.

But you look good on your soapbox, so by all means, keep it up.

And yes, at 4-6, it’s a moot point. Sit him, I don’t care. But you said you would sit him even at 9-1 with conference and national championship implications.

 

[Dean Pope]

Given the shit show we have seen this season, there is no reason to risk the health of one of our players, especially one that is likely declaring at the end of the season.

Shit show? I thought it was a clown show! I wish people would just make up their minds!

 

[SoFL Husker]

This still makes me wonder what the hell was the deal with Tommy Armstrong last year after the OSU game?

TA got destroyed with a better OL. Kid played till he had nothing left. Warrior...

 

[SoFL Husker]

He'll keep it, touchdown!!!

Armstrong with 3 receivers to his right, can they get open???

 

[SoFL Husker]

Armstrong's got a step...TD!

 

[SoFL Husker]

How anybody could ever dog this kid, I will never know...

 

[Bugeater]

And yes, at 4-6, it’s a moot point. Sit him, I don’t care. But you said you would sit him even at 9-1 with conference and national championship implications.

Yes, I would. Sorry that doesn't jibe with your thinking.

 

[SoFL Husker]

Like Frankie London, well, TA got skillz...

GBR

 

[Bugeater]

I’m not a doctor, so I have no dog in the fight. But doctors, whose job it is to say whether he can play or not, have said he can play. I seriously don’t get the issue here. Either he’s medically cleared or he isn’t. You are citing evidence that, I’m assuming, these doctors have as well. Why aren’t they saying he should sit?

Are you a doctor? Do you know better than the doctors that have examined him?

All I’m saying is someone who is an expert in the field of medicine has said he is good to go. And you (someone who evidently plays a doctor on tv) say he shouldn’t.

I guarantee you if this were Alabama, Florida State, Clemson, USC, Washington, Ohio State, or any other school in the nation, and I emphasize ANY OTHER SCHOOL, who were 9-1 and fighting for conference and national championships, and the coach sat their medically cleared starting QB, there would be hell to pay and you know it.

But you look good on your soapbox, so by all means, keep it up.

And I'm sure if that was your son who just had that concussion, you'd be happy as a clam that he was "cleared" to play with no worries whatsoever. I'm not saying Lee shouldn't play, hell, if he's cleared and he thinks he's ready to go, more power to him, the coaches, and doctors. What I'm saying is I wouldn't play him for at least a game, period.

Evidence has not shown that baseline tests are always reliable and useful. Quality care and decision making can still be provided based on tests done after injury - just like with most other health conditions or injuries. A truly comprehensive baseline assessment is difficult and expensive to administer and takes a lot of time, so it is rarely done.

Most of the time baseline tests are of a single type (like the ImPACT test) and only assess a small number of issues. Concussions are a complex injury that have a wide variety of potential symptoms and issues, so unless they test absolutely everything there will be missing key information.

Funny, you've not addressed the fact that a concussion is a brain injury, and like I said, it takes time to heal just like any other. And you certainly can be cleared to play with the protocol and baseline tests, doesn't mean the injury has gone away. Sure, you can play with it, just like a sprained ankle, but the risks, as we're seeing more and more all the time, make a good case to at least sit a player for one game.

Certainly I'm no MD, but my cousin here in Denver is a top neurological doctor. I asked him today if Tanner Lee was his son, who was cleared to play this Saturday, would he advise him to play? His answer was an emphatic NO, and he's as big a Nebraska fan as you or I.

And your right, there's no real issue here, just a difference of opinion.

 

[timnsun]

And I'm sure if that was your son who just had that concussion, you'd be happy as a clam that he was "cleared" to play with no worries whatsoever. I'm not saying Lee shouldn't play, hell, if he's cleared and he thinks he's ready to go, more power to him, the coaches, and doctors. What I'm saying is I wouldn't play him for at least a game, period.

Evidence has not shown that baseline tests are always reliable and useful. Quality care and decision making can still be provided based on tests done after injury - just like with most other health conditions or injuries. A truly comprehensive baseline assessment is difficult and expensive to administer and takes a lot of time, so it is rarely done.

Most of the time baseline tests are of a single type (like the ImPACT test) and only assess a small number of issues. Concussions are a complex injury that have a wide variety of potential symptoms and issues, so unless they test absolutely everything there will be missing key information.

Funny, you've not addressed the fact that a concussion is a brain injury, and like I said, it takes time to heal just like any other. And you certainly can be cleared to play with the protocol and baseline tests, doesn't mean the injury has gone away. Sure, you can play with it, just like a sprained ankle, but the risks, as we're seeing more and more all the time, make a good case to at least sit a player for one game.

Certainly I'm no MD, but my cousin here in Denver is a top neurological doctor. I asked him today if Tanner Lee was his son, who was cleared to play this Saturday, would he advise him to play? His answer was an emphatic NO, and he's as big a Nebraska fan as you or I.

And your right, there's no real issue here, just a difference of opinion.

All I’m saying is the doctors cleared him. Why would they do that if he shouldn’t play?

That’s all I’m getting at. If your cousin is a neurological doctor he obviously knows his stuff. So why hasn’t it changed with football?