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Talent level Big 10 West

we shouldn't have to state the obvious in the title of the thread for the sake of slow Iowa fans
you don't need to be a rocket science to see it clearly mean BT WEST RECRUITING which means every team in the West.

can we get a mod to weigh in on this?
 
another thought on Purdue
they currently have 5 4* commits that have signed with a class ranking of 27th.
they may move up 1-2 spots in the rankings but Bell will give Purdue 6 4* recruits in the 2019 class compared to the 8 in your class.
Wisconsin has 6 4* recruits in the 19 class and they only have 19 commits and sits in 25th place.

the West teams are all improving the talent they are bringing in the BT West will no longer be a cake walk to the Division Title.

Can they maintain a higher level of recruiting? Recruiting one class isn’t going to cut it so I can’t say I’m willing to call it a new norm before it even shows to be the norm. This division has a ways to go in terms of athletes but I do think several of the programs have the coaching in place.
 
Can they maintain a higher level of recruiting? Recruiting one class isn’t going to cut it so I can’t say I’m willing to call it a new norm before it even shows to be the norm. This division has a ways to go in terms of athletes but I do think several of the programs have the coaching in place.
they do have the coaches in place to maintain that level plus they are closer to top talent.
 
in some cases I believe you are stating a very close to a true statement.

As west recruiting improved, and I believe most will be developing their athletes at least as well as Iowa, how will Iowa maintain their standing within the division?

MAC recruits will not suffice.
 
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As west recruiting improved, and I believe most will be developing their athletes at least as well as Iowa, how will Iowa maintain their standing within the division?

MAC recruits will not suffice.
Iowa is getting more players with P5 offers vs in the past when they got MAC level recruits
the NIU recruit they did flip was a grade 5.6 3* out of Michigan. a step up from a 2*. although that 2* is now starting for the Kansas City Chiefs.

Niemann was a 2* who played as a true FR and started at OLB as a true SO and ended up a 3 year starter. maybe he was better than his star ranking.

ATH Evans led his team to back to back undefeated seasons and State Championships
2 time 1st Team All State reguardless of class 3 year total rushing of 6386 yards 7th in the states history, 111 rushing TD's and yet the best he could get was a 2* ranking. he played QB for his team but was more of a Wildcat player that throws and runs.

he commits to ND and he is a 4*.
 
Iowa is getting more players with P5 offers vs in the past when they got MAC level recruits
the NIU recruit they did flip was a grade 5.6 3* out of Michigan. a step up from a 2*. although that 2* is now starting for the Kansas City Chiefs.

Niemann was a 2* who played as a true FR and started at OLB as a true SO and ended up a 3 year starter. maybe he was better than his star ranking.

ATH Evans led his team to back to back undefeated seasons and State Championships
2 time 1st Team All State reguardless of class 3 year total rushing of 6386 yards 7th in the states history, 111 rushing TD's and yet the best he could get was a 2* ranking. he played QB for his team but was more of a Wildcat player that throws and runs.

he commits to ND and he is a 4*.

nobody gives an io_a ... go play in traffic
 
Iowa is getting more players with P5 offers vs in the past when they got MAC level recruits
the NIU recruit they did flip was a grade 5.6 3* out of Michigan. a step up from a 2*. although that 2* is now starting for the Kansas City Chiefs.

Niemann was a 2* who played as a true FR and started at OLB as a true SO and ended up a 3 year starter. maybe he was better than his star ranking.

ATH Evans led his team to back to back undefeated seasons and State Championships
2 time 1st Team All State reguardless of class 3 year total rushing of 6386 yards 7th in the states history, 111 rushing TD's and yet the best he could get was a 2* ranking. he played QB for his team but was more of a Wildcat player that throws and runs.

he commits to ND and he is a 4*.

I'll give Ferentz credit for developing players. We should have some good games in the future.
 
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They should have a reality show in Iowa called “Pimp my 2 star”..

I think we'll just pimp some 3 stars and walk-ons. Kids are actually turning down scholarships to walk-on again. I guess having a guy that doesn't tuck his unit between his legs, while saying he's pretty helps.
 
since there are no 2* players in this class it will be interesting to see what Ferentz can do with mid 3* and 4* recruits. after what he has done with 2* and low 3* recruits.
He hasn't done shit so far so what's your point?
 
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he hasn't done shit so far so what's your point?
they have only been on campus for 1 or 2 years with most of them RS'ing. can't exactly done shit with players that have not seen the field. now can you.
the 20 class will replace a class that was rated 58th as RSSR's what's left.
the 19 class will replace a class that was rated 59th in 2014 as RSSR's
18 class replaced the 2013 class that was rated 53rd as RSSR's.
the results should start to show in the 19 season.
 
4 low end 4# and two are in State OLmen
4*'s are still 4*'s. but just for you they have signed 4 US Army AA's although its now just the AA Game.
with 2 of them being 3*'s by Rivals
DT now moved to C Linderbaum and will join US Army AA RT Wirfs a low 4*
LB Jacobs 4* by 247

but the thing is they are not 2* or low 3* recruits now are they.
 
Will always be around. Especially after 5th straight.
Zero chance Iowa beats us next year. Take it to the bank. Not being cocky just being realistic. Iowa had a hard time with our young team this year. Add another year of strength and conditioning, and development. We have better talent overall, and I believe better overall/ young coaches. As long as Frost is here, Iowa will be lucky to beat us 20% of the time going forward.
 
Zero chance Iowa beats us next year. Take it to the bank. Not being cocky just being realistic. Iowa had a hard time with our young team this year. Add another year of strength and conditioning, and development. We have better talent overall, and I believe better overall/ young coaches. As long as Frost is here, Iowa will be lucky to beat us 20% of the time going forward.
Iowa's team was young as well. with the upperclassmen being from a class that was rated 59th and the few RSJR's class was rated 58th.
yet you still lost to a team with 2 of its worst recruiting classes being upper classmen.
 
Zero chance Iowa beats us next year. Take it to the bank. Not being cocky just being realistic. Iowa had a hard time with our young team this year. Add another year of strength and conditioning, and development. We have better talent overall, and I believe better overall/ young coaches. As long as Frost is here, Iowa will be lucky to beat us 20% of the time going forward.
You went a long way to say iowa sucks.
 
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Iowa's team was young as well. with the upperclassmen being from a class that was rated 59th and the few RSJR's class was rated 58th.
yet you still lost to a team with 2 of its worst recruiting classes being upper classmen.

This goes to show how much coaching and program stability does matter. What happens when Nebraska gets both?
 
Iowa's team was young as well. with the upperclassmen being from a class that was rated 59th and the few RSJR's class was rated 58th.
yet you still lost to a team with 2 of its worst recruiting classes being upper classmen.
It took 3 of Nebraska's worst teams in the last half a century, coached by one of the worst coaches in Neb history, and 1 rebuild year( with a true fresh QB) for Iowa to beat us. Not a chance now that we have a competent coaching staff.
 
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Zero chance Iowa beats us next year. Take it to the bank. Not being cocky just being realistic. Iowa had a hard time with our young team this year. Add another year of strength and conditioning, and development. We have better talent overall, and I believe better overall/ young coaches. As long as Frost is here, Iowa will be lucky to beat us 20% of the time going forward.


I kind of thought they handled us pretty well and were a Ferentz away from putting it to us pretty good. We really need to figure out why our O goes dormant for about 1.5 quarters a game with nothing but quick 3 and outs. That’s gonna be a problem.
 
I kind of thought they handled us pretty well and were a Ferentz away from putting it to us pretty good. We really need to figure out why our O goes dormant for about 1.5 quarters a game with nothing but quick 3 and outs. That’s gonna be a problem.

We were in season one of a new coaching staff, a new offensive system and a true freshman QB running the show. Once the system is established it will be one of the more productive offenses in the nation and very difficult to shut down. The defense is what needs to be figured out.
 
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I kind of thought they handled us pretty well and were a Ferentz away from putting it to us pretty good. We really need to figure out why our O goes dormant for about 1.5 quarters a game with nothing but quick 3 and outs. That’s gonna be a problem.
Don't worry, nobody else is. Iowa is our little brother from here on out.
 
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This goes to show how much coaching and program stability does matter. What happens when Nebraska gets both?
the problem is Iowa is getting better players as well.
for example in 2005 that class was rated 11th with these for results
2008 RSJR's 9-4 #20 final ranking
2009 RSSR's started out 9-0 then they lost their starting QB to injury, ended up losing to NW. then in the OSU game they started a RSFR and lost in OT, fInishing 11-2 bowl win in the BCS Orange Bowl over ACC Champion Georgia Tech. #7 final ranking, if Stanzi does not get hurt Iowa has a shot at the National Championship
unforetunately they failed to follow up that class
2012 class was rated 30th with that group the core of that 12-2 seasons as RSSR's

again developing players is/was Iowa's strong suit. from
2016 42nd class ranking
2017 40th class ranking
2018 40th by Rivals and 39th by 247
2019 38th by Rivals, 37th by 247 and 35th by ESPN will make this longest sustained recruiting over 4 years.
this season the new coaches just ended their 1st season recruiting class as a UNIT.

the 2020 class already has a 4* QB by 247 and ESPN to start with. the good thing he is from Texas and maybe he can bring some skill players with him.

the last QB they got out of Texas was Mansell and these were committed to Iowa until 2 coaches who were fired 4* RB Eno Benjamin who was just named a 3rd Team AA.
A WR who flipped to Alabama because of the Eno Fiasco. Eno started taking visits and nobody told Ferentz that he was going on visits. Ferentz has a no visit policy after you commit to Iowa, although if the player discusses it with Ferentz and are open about it, exceptions are made.

LB Jacobs who is from OSU got a offer at the last minute and talked to Ferentz about it, so Jacobs made a unofficial visit to the OSU/Michigan game then on Monday took a official visit. he then committed and signed his LOI with Iowa.

Jacobs and his parents were upfront and honest with the coaches.

Ferentz is upfront about the visit and commitment as he tells them to be very sure about their decision before committing.
 
Don't worry, nobody else is. Iowa is our little brother from here on out.
keep telling yourself that.

this years team was loaded with RSSO/SO, RSFR/FR. that will only get better. just like past players. considering the results of the past higher rated players as RSJR's and RSSR's results have shown, the next 2 years will be very good.
 
the problem is Iowa is getting better players as well.
for example in 2005 that class was rated 11th with these for results
2008 RSJR's 9-4 #20 final ranking
2009 RSSR's started out 9-0 then they lost their starting QB to injury, ended up losing to NW. then in the OSU game they started a RSFR and lost in OT, fInishing 11-2 bowl win in the BCS Orange Bowl over ACC Champion Georgia Tech. #7 final ranking, if Stanzi does not get hurt Iowa has a shot at the National Championship
unforetunately they failed to follow up that class
2012 class was rated 30th with that group the core of that 12-2 seasons as RSSR's

again developing players is/was Iowa's strong suit. from
2016 42nd class ranking
2017 40th class ranking
2018 40th by Rivals and 39th by 247
2019 38th by Rivals, 37th by 247 and 35th by ESPN will make this longest sustained recruiting over 4 years.
this season the new coaches just ended their 1st season recruiting class as a UNIT.

the 2020 class already has a 4* QB by 247 and ESPN to start with. the good thing he is from Texas and maybe he can bring some skill players with him.

the last QB they got out of Texas was Mansell and these were committed to Iowa until 2 coaches who were fired 4* RB Eno Benjamin who was just named a 3rd Team AA.
A WR who flipped to Alabama because of the Eno Fiasco. Eno started taking visits and nobody told Ferentz that he was going on visits. Ferentz has a no visit policy after you commit to Iowa, although if the player discusses it with Ferentz and are open about it, exceptions are made.

LB Jacobs who is from OSU got a offer at the last minute and talked to Ferentz about it, so Jacobs made a unofficial visit to the OSU/Michigan game then on Monday took a official visit. he then committed and signed his LOI with Iowa.

Jacobs and his parents were upfront and honest with the coaches.

Ferentz is upfront about the visit and commitment as he tells them to be very sure about their decision before committing.
Dude, go blow yourself, and go back to your own board..
 
the problem is Iowa is getting better players as well.
for example in 2005 that class was rated 11th with these for results
2008 RSJR's 9-4 #20 final ranking
2009 RSSR's started out 9-0 then they lost their starting QB to injury, ended up losing to NW. then in the OSU game they started a RSFR and lost in OT, fInishing 11-2 bowl win in the BCS Orange Bowl over ACC Champion Georgia Tech. #7 final ranking, if Stanzi does not get hurt Iowa has a shot at the National Championship
unforetunately they failed to follow up that class
2012 class was rated 30th with that group the core of that 12-2 seasons as RSSR's

again developing players is/was Iowa's strong suit. from
2016 42nd class ranking
2017 40th class ranking
2018 40th by Rivals and 39th by 247
2019 38th by Rivals, 37th by 247 and 35th by ESPN will make this longest sustained recruiting over 4 years.
this season the new coaches just ended their 1st season recruiting class as a UNIT.

the 2020 class already has a 4* QB by 247 and ESPN to start with. the good thing he is from Texas and maybe he can bring some skill players with him.

the last QB they got out of Texas was Mansell and these were committed to Iowa until 2 coaches who were fired 4* RB Eno Benjamin who was just named a 3rd Team AA.
A WR who flipped to Alabama because of the Eno Fiasco. Eno started taking visits and nobody told Ferentz that he was going on visits. Ferentz has a no visit policy after you commit to Iowa, although if the player discusses it with Ferentz and are open about it, exceptions are made.

LB Jacobs who is from OSU got a offer at the last minute and talked to Ferentz about it, so Jacobs made a unofficial visit to the OSU/Michigan game then on Monday took a official visit. he then committed and signed his LOI with Iowa.

Jacobs and his parents were upfront and honest with the coaches.

Ferentz is upfront about the visit and commitment as he tells them to be very sure about their decision before committing.
the problem is Iowa is getting better players as well.
for example in 2005 that class was rated 11th with these for results
2008 RSJR's 9-4 #20 final ranking
2009 RSSR's started out 9-0 then they lost their starting QB to injury, ended up losing to NW. then in the OSU game they started a RSFR and lost in OT, fInishing 11-2 bowl win in the BCS Orange Bowl over ACC Champion Georgia Tech. #7 final ranking, if Stanzi does not get hurt Iowa has a shot at the National Championship
unforetunately they failed to follow up that class
2012 class was rated 30th with that group the core of that 12-2 seasons as RSSR's

again developing players is/was Iowa's strong suit. from
2016 42nd class ranking
2017 40th class ranking
2018 40th by Rivals and 39th by 247
2019 38th by Rivals, 37th by 247 and 35th by ESPN will make this longest sustained recruiting over 4 years.
this season the new coaches just ended their 1st season recruiting class as a UNIT.

the 2020 class already has a 4* QB by 247 and ESPN to start with. the good thing he is from Texas and maybe he can bring some skill players with him.

the last QB they got out of Texas was Mansell and these were committed to Iowa until 2 coaches who were fired 4* RB Eno Benjamin who was just named a 3rd Team AA.
A WR who flipped to Alabama because of the Eno Fiasco. Eno started taking visits and nobody told Ferentz that he was going on visits. Ferentz has a no visit policy after you commit to Iowa, although if the player discusses it with Ferentz and are open about it, exceptions are made.

LB Jacobs who is from OSU got a offer at the last minute and talked to Ferentz about it, so Jacobs made a unofficial visit to the OSU/Michigan game then on Monday took a official visit. he then committed and signed his LOI with Iowa.

Jacobs and his parents were upfront and honest with the coaches.

Ferentz is upfront about the visit and commitment as he tells them to be very sure about their decision before committing.
No words, still laughing my ass off.
 
Zero chance Iowa beats us next year. Take it to the bank. Not being cocky just being realistic. Iowa had a hard time with our young team this year. Add another year of strength and conditioning, and development. We have better talent overall, and I believe better overall/ young coaches. As long as Frost is here, Iowa will be lucky to beat us 20% of the time going forward.
Who knows what will happen next year...this year... In all honesty we faked a punt from inside our 10 and made them punt once. And, outside of AM, just where is that better talent you speak of?

Easy to forget that even in the 90s we didn’t steam roll everyone, but had to gut out some games.
 
the problem is Iowa is getting better players as well.
for example in 2005 that class was rated 11th with these for results
2008 RSJR's 9-4 #20 final ranking
2009 RSSR's started out 9-0 then they lost their starting QB to injury, ended up losing to NW. then in the OSU game they started a RSFR and lost in OT, fInishing 11-2 bowl win in the BCS Orange Bowl over ACC Champion Georgia Tech. #7 final ranking, if Stanzi does not get hurt Iowa has a shot at the National Championship
unforetunately they failed to follow up that class
2012 class was rated 30th with that group the core of that 12-2 seasons as RSSR's

again developing players is/was Iowa's strong suit. from
2016 42nd class ranking
2017 40th class ranking
2018 40th by Rivals and 39th by 247
2019 38th by Rivals, 37th by 247 and 35th by ESPN will make this longest sustained recruiting over 4 years.
this season the new coaches just ended their 1st season recruiting class as a UNIT.

the 2020 class already has a 4* QB by 247 and ESPN to start with. the good thing he is from Texas and maybe he can bring some skill players with him.

the last QB they got out of Texas was Mansell and these were committed to Iowa until 2 coaches who were fired 4* RB Eno Benjamin who was just named a 3rd Team AA.
A WR who flipped to Alabama because of the Eno Fiasco. Eno started taking visits and nobody told Ferentz that he was going on visits. Ferentz has a no visit policy after you commit to Iowa, although if the player discusses it with Ferentz and are open about it, exceptions are made.

LB Jacobs who is from OSU got a offer at the last minute and talked to Ferentz about it, so Jacobs made a unofficial visit to the OSU/Michigan game then on Monday took a official visit. he then committed and signed his LOI with Iowa.

Jacobs and his parents were upfront and honest with the coaches.

Ferentz is upfront about the visit and commitment as he tells them to be very sure about their decision before committing.
* counters are losers that fall for click bait sites.

Frost nor Ferentz give a rats a$$ about click bait recruiting sites
 
The best part about beating you is you guys refuse to pull your heads out of your a$$ and acknowledge the glory days are not coming back. You are a qb injury from going 4-8 again and your lines are 10 ply soft. Is nebraska going to compete for the west, sure, just like wiscy, iowa, purdont, and NW. (I'm going to let you in on a secret, if scooter cant figure out how to get his teams out of being one of the most penalized teams in the nation, of which there is a track record, your going to lose to NW alot. They are not great but they dont beat themselves ever. ) go ahead I'll listen to why next year is going to be different for the 4th year in a row but honestly you guys need to eval where your program is. Real talk, chindalar (sp) isnt going to last 3 more years. See ya next Black Friday.

PS. Sorry about Kilroy, he isnt allowed on our site anymore. Literally the dude cannot even pay money to get on the premium board.
 
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The best part about beating you is you guys refuse to pull your heads out of your a$$ and acknowledge the glory days are not coming back. You are a qb injury from going 4-8 again and your lines are 10 ply soft. Is nebraska going to compete for the west, sure, just like wiscy, iowa, purdont, and NW. (I'm going to let you in on a secret, if scooter cant figure out how to get his teams out of being one of the most penalized teams in the nation, of which there is a track record, your going to lose to NW alot. They are not great but they dont beat themselves ever. ) go ahead I'll listen to why next year is going to be different for the 4th year in a row but honestly you guys need to eval where your program is. Real talk, chindalar (sp) isnt going to last 3 more years. See ya next Black Friday.

PS. Sorry about Kilroy, he isnt allowed on our site anymore. Literally the dude cannot even pay money to get on the premium board.
to bad Kackert won't allow poster on his board that supports the Coaches or players.
the only poster that are allowed are those that tell other poster to kill themselves or trash the players or coaches,

the biggest surprise is how a ISU poster can stay on that board after telling multiple posters to kill themselves.

I have and always support the team, coaches and players today just like I supported them thru to 50's, 60's and 70's. the 60's and 70's were 2 of the worst decades of Iowa FB.

That gave me a perspective on what College FB is all about, NOBODY can stay at the bottom nor can they stay at the top.

FB goes in cycles, right now Iowa is on the upswing. this is due to the new assistant coaches, who have the recruiting connection to talent rich states and are known Speed rich talent.
 
The best part about beating you is you guys refuse to pull your heads out of your a$$ and acknowledge the glory days are not coming back. You are a qb injury from going 4-8 again and your lines are 10 ply soft. Is nebraska going to compete for the west, sure, just like wiscy, iowa, purdont, and NW. (I'm going to let you in on a secret, if scooter cant figure out how to get his teams out of being one of the most penalized teams in the nation, of which there is a track record, your going to lose to NW alot. They are not great but they dont beat themselves ever. ) go ahead I'll listen to why next year is going to be different for the 4th year in a row but honestly you guys need to eval where your program is. Real talk, chindalar (sp) isnt going to last 3 more years. See ya next Black Friday.

PS. Sorry about Kilroy, he isnt allowed on our site anymore. Literally the dude cannot even pay money to get on the premium board.
Your glory years (2015) aren't coming back.
 
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