Not about serious illness, hospitalization and death, anymore. It's cases! Gotta stop the virus, completely, with nobody testing positive, ever, because that is scary.
Right, like the flu, etc. Lol, agree.
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Not about serious illness, hospitalization and death, anymore. It's cases! Gotta stop the virus, completely, with nobody testing positive, ever, because that is scary.
Please provide link to a RCT study that confirms that masks are effective in preventing the spread of a respiratory virus.
Okay, I'll save you some time. There isn't one.
Good one!
You really don't know how to read very well, do you? They are not the same, but one can arise if you have the other, or did you just float over what was right in front of you?If there’s no link then go inject yourself with HIV, refuse treatment and see what happens.
The entire basis was taking a model of controlled lab tests in Petri dishes and then saying that’s what happens in a complex human environment. Much like the early (and even recent) COVID projections use incomplete or faulty data.
Widely discredited...
Your bias is showing. Doesn't it give you pause as an allegedly discerning individual that there is such inconclusive consensus among the medical professionals and it significantly correlates to political leanings.
And on top of it the people who are apolitical like the Stanford professors who have called it right the entire time have said it's a massive overreaction.
If there’s no link then go inject yourself with HIV, refuse treatment and see what happens.
The entire basis was taking a model of controlled lab tests in Petri dishes and then saying that’s what happens in a complex human environment. Much like the early (and even recent) COVID projections use incomplete or faulty data.
He was never ahead.Dude. Stop while ur ahead.
Provide a link to a RCT study that shows it isn’t effective? RCT studies are great, but not realistic for everything.
Provide a link to a RCT study that shows it isn’t effective? RCT studies are great, but not realistic for everything.
Like this wild Tiger?There are tons of them that show masks do not work in operating rooms to stop infection. That's with people trained on how to use them in sterile environments. How well do you think they work in the wild?
I personally think it’s a good message. Some people miss the obvious.
That's not how this works.
We've lived our entire lives without masks. You want to change it? Provide proof it makes a difference.
I just watched the Twins and the Tigers. A rookie made his first start and they wouldn't even let HIS WIFE in the stands to see it. Good heavens. The stadium would easily hold several thousand with 12 feet between them AND ITS OUTDOORS. I just don't get it. Why not let them admit 20% of the capacity. It's ridiculous. We're not limiting capacity in the HyVees or Walmarts in Minnesota. Why not let some fans in the freaking stadiums.Here is a wild one for you RE: Covid.
Apparently all the coaches at Goodland (Kansas) High School were quarantined for their first game of the year against Liberal. Goodland is 3A and Liberal is 5A. The superintendent took over coaching the team for the game and they won. The supe and I go way back to when he was a teacher, AD and coach.
Friday night we ventured to watch a couple of 3A teams play close by. One of coaches is a great guy I hired many years ago and his son is a 6'3" MLB and guard. Each player could only have four tickets, no bands, and the stands were sparse. I thought it was interesting that they could tackle each other all night long but couldn't shake hands at the end of the game.
I just watched the Twins and the Tigers. A rookie made his first start and they wouldn't even let HIS WIFE in the stands to see it. Good heavens. The stadium would easily hold several thousand with 12 feet between them AND ITS OUTDOORS. I just don't get it. Why not let them admit 20% of the capacity. It's ridiculous. We're not limiting capacity in the HyVees or Walmarts in Minnesota. Why not let some fans in the freaking stadiums.
Why? Statiscally speaking and such.I'll listen to and heed the advice of medical doctors, epidemiologists, virologists, long before I listen to you.
What if it is? Iam still uncertain about the moon landing.geez dude. every country in the world decided to respond in a similar way. its not a charade. and i know the smart people will never convince you of any other opinion so we get it. we got it. we heard it. we wrote it down. we memorized it. and we moved on. again
And they leave the stadium and go have dinner together. My favorite story was the couple in Michigan who was ticketed for being out in public without social distancing. When people sit next to each other at ballgames it's because they're family, coworkers, etc. The LAST thing anybody does is purposely go sit right next to a stranger at a ballgame.Where and whenever there is a game with limited seating that is supposed to spread people out, they always end up in small groups all over the place totally blowing the idea of distancing. Human nature is to want to be with other humans, not apart from them.
The stats of this shit are so freaking stupid it is beyond dumb.
Nearly Day 1 back in March I said it would be .3% to .5% and here we are.
Doesn't take much to crunch numbers and understand.
Play some football.
Just to check your math...
And for the record, I want them to play, but I understand some areas will definitely struggle and teams may end up with outbreaks and missing games. I think crowds are probably not super realistic right now and trying to get clearance to bring a group of 100+ into the northeast or the west coast right now is probably going to have a lot of red tape.
Just to check your math...
Let’s say we go for 80% for the herd immunity that some said early on.
330 million start, 264 million need infected for the 80% to get to the herd. So .3 to .5 % of infected Americans is your estimate, so 792K to 1.32 million dead.
80% seems a bit outlandish, so maybe we can get herd immunity from 40% of the population so we take those numbers and halve them to 396K to 660K dead.
And for the record, I want them to play, but I understand some areas will definitely struggle and teams may end up with outbreaks and missing games. I think crowds are probably not super realistic right now and trying to get clearance to bring a group of 100+ into the northeast or the west coast right now is probably going to have a lot of red tape.
Has nothing to do with Herd immunity.
Has everything to do with math. Very very simple math.
The CDC says that 10xs more people are 'infected' with Covid than their own numbers
Hence, divide by 10.
Quit while you are behind.
You one of those that still believes in the 2 to 3 million lives lost?
It's actually worse than that. The constitution does not give the executive branch at the federal - state - local level the power to order laws into existence. Especially laws that harm personal and property freedom. The legislatures have to pass bill(s) that are signed into law.
Nothing that has happened with regard to this plandemic is LEGAL. I don't care if it is the Andromeda Strain. The gov't can ask for voluntary cooperation, but it cannot create laws (especially ones that violate the constitution) from the executive branch that are enforced at the point of a gun.
We are under Martial Law. The population has willingly given up their freedom to a totalitarian gov't. (and corporations that are insanely woke)
Yes, DJT gets some of the blame. But the federal gov't has mostly made recommendations. The majority of the jack-boots are coming from areas controlled by the left or woke corporations.
Provide a link to a RCT study that shows it isn’t effective? RCT studies are great, but not realistic for everything.
Very few things come to a consensus anymore, and it’s not like viruses are static, they mutate, we learn treatments and improve. I said months ago models were proven flawed and misused, taking info from high density areas and applying it to rural low density areas is not going to go well. But at the same time using numbers for low density areas and claiming that it isn’t an issue is equally stupid.
Regarding the BIG, they shouldn’t have outright cancelled, they should have postponed, said we have members who can’t play yet and we want time to make sure we work with schools and players to ensure that we can proceed at the right time with the right controls in place.
Not about serious illness, hospitalization and death, anymore. It's cases! Gotta stop the virus, completely, with nobody testing positive, ever, because that is scary.
And there’s only a hundred plus years of case law affirming states rights in relation to managing public health, but that’s just all irrelevant right?
No kidding- summer election would have solved many problems.We should have moved Nov 4th up a couple months. Then the football season would have occurred as usual.
Just to check your math...
Let’s say we go for 80% for the herd immunity that some said early on.
330 million start, 264 million need infected for the 80% to get to the herd. So .3 to .5 % of infected Americans is your estimate, so 792K to 1.32 million dead.
80% seems a bit outlandish, so maybe we can get herd immunity from 40% of the population so we take those numbers and halve them to 396K to 660K dead.
And for the record, I want them to play, but I understand some areas will definitely struggle and teams may end up with outbreaks and missing games. I think crowds are probably not super realistic right now and trying to get clearance to bring a group of 100+ into the northeast or the west coast right now is probably going to have a lot of red tape.
So true...I routinely find young people coughing super loudly on the Call of Duty Warzone mic.. but I think they are mostly just smoking pot.
You would not accept proof if Christ himself delivered it to you, so why bother?That's not how this works.
We've lived our entire lives without masks. You want to change it? Provide proof it makes a difference.
#WARNING
The above post is disingenuous garbage.
Misrepresenting CFR for an IFR. So honest of you.
Every time you do this is another 2 months in your basement for you.
I wasn’t the one claiming .3 to .5, but was doing the math of someone who did claim that, and said that math was easy.
Feel free to correct my math if it’s wrong. Or keep trying to twist the intent of the post and live in fear of a piece of fabric and that evil deep state and media. Just remember, BLM is coming for you!
You would not accept proof if Christ himself delivered it to you, so why bother?
Of course, the Right has put Trump above God so in a way I’m kind of wrong right out of the gate...
I'm twisting... says the guy who misrepresents CFR and IFR.
I understand your misrepresentations just fine. Reality says hello, your math is clearly wrong.
Let them come.