Detroit Free Press reporting that the MSU AD walked off the private jet in Lansing, returning from Cincy, without Fickell.
might be a matter of board approval
might be a matter of board approval
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Shoot, Fickell has all the power at this moment. The first offer that MSU came in with I would have my agent tell them to double it.
I bet he can get over 4 million a year.
He’ll probably have better options after this season. Maybe USC.
Yep. MSU wouldn't be my choice right now if I were a quality coach. Too many distractionsHe’ll probably have better options after this season. Maybe USC.
Crap I was hoping he’s go. That is going to be a hard game. They’ll be favored.
Right on cue.....Luke Fickell - who managed to lose to Bo Pelini while head coach of OSU - after taking over a 4-8 mid major program should not beat Scott Frost in year 3 at a power 5 program, in Lincoln.
For sure, Michigan state isn't much better, maybe even worse than where he is at. If he has success this year ( with a loss to Neb) he can get interest with high profile football program. Like USC, Maybe Michigan if Harbaugh under performs again.He’ll probably have better options after this season. Maybe USC.
Mich St is absolutely a better job than Cincy. No question.For sure, Michigan state isn't much better, maybe even worse than where he is at. If he has success this year ( with a loss to Neb) he can get interest with high profile football program. Like USC, Maybe Michigan if Harbaugh under performs again.
Meh, not where both programs are currently at. He has Cinncy rolling. Mich st is going to be a major rebuild. Plus don't they or will have ncaa sanctions coming? If it was that much better, he would have taken the job. Right now, Mich st is not a destination for successful head coaches. They are probably going to have to find a successful assistant who has no HC experience and build from there. Like mentioned above if he can have another great year, he is going to have every open HC program coming after him, with potential to make more money.Mich St is absolutely a better job than Cincy. No question.
He should not beat Chip Kelly in year 2 at a power 5 program either.Luke Fickell - who managed to lose to Bo Pelini while head coach of OSU - after taking over a 4-8 mid major program should not beat Scott Frost in year 3 at a power 5 program, in Lincoln.
let's see.. an AAC program that's 'rolling' or a B1G program, playing Notre Dame every other year, making $5M/year.. sanctions or not, it's very obvious which is the better program, both near- and long-term. Cincy, just like any G5 team, has zero chance to make the playoff, even if undefeated.Meh, not where both programs are currently at. He has Cinncy rolling. Mich st is going to be a major rebuild. Plus don't they or will have ncaa sanctions coming? If it was that much better, he would have taken the job. Right now, Mich st is not a destination for successful head coaches. They are probably going to have to find a successful assistant who has no HC experience and build from there. Like mentioned above if he can have another great year, he is going to have every open HC program coming after him, with potential to make more money.
While going ancient in todays cfb, I look at a much better auburn team playing a hapless SF team, and say thats just old thinking, outdated, and so generalized it mans nothing in real context.Luke Fickell - who managed to lose to Bo Pelini while head coach of OSU - after taking over a 4-8 mid major program should not beat Scott Frost in year 3 at a power 5 program, in Lincoln.
Fickell being his namesake? Surprised?let's see.. an AAC program that's 'rolling' or a B1G program, playing Notre Dame every other year, making $5M/year.. sanctions or not, it's very obvious which is the better program, both near- and long-term. Cincy, just like any G5 team, has zero chance to make the playoff, even if undefeated.
I tend to agree with the poster who said he's posturing, as he does currently have all the leverage.
And here I thought he was waiting for KF to calcifyBielema has apparently told MSU he is interested.
Crap I was hoping he’s go. That is going to be a hard game. They’ll be favored.
Unless we slip up in our first 3 games, they will not be favored against us coming into Lincoln. They may not be even if we lose only once. I doubt a non-power 5 team has ever been favored against us at home, and it won't start now unless we really start out poorly. Heck, we don't even know if they will be undefeated. Let's not just assume that they are going to be as good this year as last. There's a number of non-Power 5 teams that have put together great seasons one year and then failed to follow it up the next. Yes, that will likely be a tough game, but let's not overdo it.Crap I was hoping he’s go. That is going to be a hard game. They’ll be favored.
Long term any P5 Job is going to be a step up from G5. I just think all things considered, he is better off to stay put and wait for a better program to come calling.let's see.. an AAC program that's 'rolling' or a B1G program, playing Notre Dame every other year, making $5M/year.. sanctions or not, it's very obvious which is the better program, both near- and long-term. Cincy, just like any G5 team, has zero chance to make the playoff, even if undefeated.
I tend to agree with the poster who said he's posturing, as he does currently have all the leverage.
Considering he literally turned MSU away I don't know why you're trying to make this argumentlet's see.. an AAC program that's 'rolling' or a B1G program, playing Notre Dame every other year, making $5M/year.. sanctions or not, it's very obvious which is the better program, both near- and long-term. Cincy, just like any G5 team, has zero chance to make the playoff, even if undefeated.
I tend to agree with the poster who said he's posturing, as he does currently have all the leverage.
Unless we slip up in our first 3 games, they will not be favored against us coming into Lincoln. They may not be even if we lose only once. I doubt a non-power 5 team has ever been favored against us at home, and it won't start now unless we really start out poorly. Heck, we don't even know if they will be undefeated. Let's not just assume that they are going to be as good this year as last. There's a number of non-Power 5 teams that have put together great seasons one year and then failed to follow it up the next. Yes, that will likely be a tough game, but let's not overdo it.
because 1 guy reportedly turned it down that somehow makes MSU a worse job than Cincy?Considering he literally turned MSU away I don't know why you're trying to make this argument
The ticked off MSU fans are referring to him as Limp Pickle. Apparently Pickle and his wife didn’t like all the sex assault lawsuits and lingering effects.
Can you blame him?Can you blame them..
I believe 3 now have turned them down. Fickel, Mel Tucker, and Pat Narduzzi. Bielema might be the guy they are on now. Which wouldn't be a bad hire. He had success in the BIG at Wiscbecause 1 guy reportedly turned it down that somehow makes MSU a worse job than Cincy?
talk about a thin argument....