SIAP....Have Scott or Fred made a statement...
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Here is the Tonya Timpa video for you, if you really want to see a white guy choked to death by the police.
That’s half the equation, I’ll be waiting for the outrage, the protests and the nonstop coverage
Because there is disproportionate killing of black men by cops.
Risk of being killed by police use of force in the United States by age, race–ethnicity, and sex
https://news.umich.edu/police-sixth-leading-cause-of-death-for-young-black-men/
And heres the worst thing. It will be Ignored by the country and there will be no mass riots going on over this. The white man died, oh well. His life doesn’t matter. And IF whites did rise up and protest this, we’d be called racists. It’s more then F_cked up.
No there is no diluting the issue with my statement... if you feel that way please add some substance as to why you think so instead of just quoting someone... the issue at hand is social injustice, and if you run your own statistical stats you’ll see some surprising facts... what I am saying from my statement is that NOT ONE LIFE IS ANY MORE VALUABLE THEN THE NEXT... I don’t care about the color of your skin of what your profession is, it really is very simplistic, treat other how you want to be treated, treat all humans with respect and dignity, yes some people are criminals, some people are bad, but that does not give the cops the right to murder someone right there in the streets... Now on the other hand, just because there have been cops that have taken lives, it does not make it right to go burn down buildings, steal TVs or anything else in the name of protesting... that is not protesting that is rioting, and looting... do not judge the whole by the actions of the few, and that goes for all races, all religions, all professions, all genders, and all sexual identities...
You say people in public positions can and should make statements, but then say they don't have a lasting impact. So what is the point?
What were the nature of the complaints? What was the makeup of the complainant? This cop was doing this in broad daylight with lots of people around who had cameras. Either this was about something more than him being a racist cop who wanted to hurt a minority, or he is hands down the dumbest human being on the planet to do what he did in plain sight with no apparent concern whatsoever that he was being filmed. I would be willing to guess that the complaints about this cop came from all kinds of different people, even people that look like him. My guess is that this cop is a massive pos who, when he had the opportunity, abused his power.
A man is dead, and he shouldn't be. The man who did it, and those who took part in it, will get what they have coming to them. I'm not going to assume this was racism just because of the color of a person's skin. Nobody should. Now, billions of dollars of damage and the innocent lives of many are forever going to be destroyed.
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The saying is a direct rebuke to the ridiculous refrain "ALL lives matter," which is designed to be antagonistic to "black lives matter." Of course all lives matter. Nobody questions that when they say "black lives matter." "Black lives matter" does not insinuate that other lives do not matter. It's a statement (and movement) that raises awareness against the violence and systematic racism targeted at black people. When you see someone wearing a breast cancer awareness ribbon do you go up to them and say that we need to raise awareness for all cancers and make claims that Eve's cancer diagnosis is more important than Adam's? Of course not. Look, as good intentioned as your post may have been, saying "ALL lives matter" is a dog whistle phrase and it dilutes the issue at hand. Who is really claiming that George Floyd's life is more valuable than the officers killed anyway?
So the moral of the story is that if you want to protest, make sure to be as violent and destructive as possible so as to really show others how passionate and legitimate your protest is.
Haha sure! It's what fix news listeners have been tricked to believe. What an ignorant comment
All those Black Power chants really disputed that.
Absolutely !!! I guess the politically correct forces don't want us to bring the true facts up. Ask some of those 94% why they don't think Black Lives Matter !!!!!
Interesting find...Even though Tony was on Cocaine what is the difference between him and George Floyd?
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How much research have you actually done into the black lives matters movement? I’m guessing you have done very little and only taken the media’s word at face value, and that’s nothing against you almost no body has researched anything into that movement... but that’s another one of those things where people would be surprised if they actually looked into it... now I’m not saying that black lives don’t matter, and I’m not saying all lives matter just to be antagonistic towards that movement... I say all lives matter because that gets lost in this black lives matters movement... we focus so much towards the movement that we over look the cops that have been beaten, the businesses that have been burned, or robbed, if you all care so much about equality where is the gay lives matter? Where is the equality there? Look I’m saying is do research before you jump behind a cause and if you’re going to fight for justice for all, then truly fight for justice for all, don’t label it with a color or anything
any "justice" with a qualifier should be thoroughly scrutinized.
I don't think that the idea that all lives are important is controversial (at least to any reasonable person). I'm not going to make assumptions about your viewpoint, but I think there's a disconnect where people who support the BLM movement mean "Black Lives Matter (Too)" while those who respond with "All lives matter!" tend to hear it as "(Only) Black Lives Matter!" Obviously that extra word on either end makes a big difference.
I imagine we have a similar ideal end state (everyone is treated fairly regardless of race, religion, etc, as you said above) but probably disagree about how close we are to that situation. I think we have a long way to go to get there, because there are long-standing systemic issues that disadvantage various minorities. One of the symptoms of those issues is that minorities are treated differently than white people by police. That doesn't mean that white people are never treated poorly by police -- I think we need to reform our police and approach to law enforcement/criminal justice for everyone's benefit (people of all types and police included).
It's upsetting that the protests have involved rioting and looting. I'm not going to get into the fallacy of pretending they're two separate groups of people, because no doubt there's overlap. I try to keep in mind that the legitimacy of the cause isn't tied to the behavior of some individuals advocating for it.
Anyway, trying not to be confrontational. Hopefully most people want the same thing - peace, freedom, equality, and justice for everyone. Success for Husker football would be nice, too.
I absolutely agree with what you said here, and regardless of how my previous posts have came across I also agree that we are not very close to equality.
I fully recognize that minorities have a lot of disadvantages, and I recognize that no matter what minorities are constantly fighting any uphill battle, and I whole heartedly hate that.
My stance of all lives matter is just that, all lives matter, the way I see life is, me as a 35 year old white male, should have no advantage over any other male or female regardless of their race, color, or sexual preference. That is not the America that I signed up to fight for, that’s not the America that I want my kids to grow up in... I want my kids, who are mixed to not have to worry about any in equalities I don’t want anyone to worry about any in equalities.
I will say though I think you and I see things similarly, the only difference for me is i don't say black lives matter, not because they don’t, because they absolutely do, but because that movement has openly called for riots, and looting, and violence, especially in the past... so for that reason I don't use the phrase black lives matter, but instead choose to say all lives matter, that’s not to insinuate that others don’t think all lives matter.
That's cool man, I'm glad that you feel that way. I'll say, as was pointed out above, that you have to be aware of the implications and connotations attached to certain language. I get where you're coming from and why you prefer "all lives matter," but I'm sure you can see why some people who don't understand your motivations might react with hostility. I'd humbly suggest you try something else, but obviously you're free to speak your mind in whatever way you believe is best.
Go big red.
I think reality told him to respond this way. I'm not sure what the second sentence alludes to.
Nothing a coach says or does will cause change of knucklehead racists. I wouldn't criticize him making a statement but I think the statements he makes to his players are more important than trying to change the behavior of 40 year old mouth breathers.
Because he doesnt need to be woke. He needs to be a leader of young men. His position isn't political.
Biggest is William Floyd definitely fumbled the ball before crossing the end zone
All lives matter? Black lives matter?
I don't think Derek Chauvin nor the peopledemonstrating looting, burning, and smashing things (the ones controlling the current narrative) give one damn about anyone else's life.
Evidence:. The increasing daily body count.
I don't think Derek Chauvin nor the people
Evidence:. The increasing daily body count.
did Tony play football at Florida St? I know William Floyd did.
Because there is disproportionate killing of black men by cops.
Risk of being killed by police use of force in the United States by age, race–ethnicity, and sex
https://news.umich.edu/police-sixth-leading-cause-of-death-for-young-black-men/
See you are worried about #6, why not spend a similar or more amount of time on dealing with #3?
I love the "will be killed by police during their lives" Shouldn't the sentence end with will be killed by police?
When you provide only portions of the data it doesn't really help the argument. To me it just raises more questions, such as, how many encounters with the police does the average black boy/man have as opposed to encounters with police that the average white, asian or hispanic boy/ man have. When you have that number, then you can look at the number of deaths per encounter.
With that number, whatever it is, and the research why are those numbers the way they are. What is the cause?
Then lets look at the number of black boys/ men killed by black cops. I think that would be an important data point. Especially when we are talking about race relations and the inference that all of these black men are killed by "Aryan nation" white cops. Maybe the number is small? Who knows? But until that information is available it is just a guess. We make that assumption because of the information provided to us by the media. Like I said, lots of stuff to look in to. Lots of data points that go unresearched at best or unreported at worst.
I didn't care one way or the other. I am not so easily offended. I'll have to go back. Aren't you the one calling people racist because they are not peacefully protesting or looting or whatever it is called now.
Young guardsmen that volunteered to protect the United States are being mocked by your peaceful protesters. Grow up, @Suhrreal .
Young guardsmen that volunteered to protect the United States are being mocked by your peaceful protesters. Grow up, @Suhrreal .
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Well, glad I brought THIS topic up... some people I normally agree with don’t agree here and that’s fine.... many other interesting side notes to examine...
My thoughts for the statements( Scott’s the think is great as well) is this..... these 125 players on football, black AND white, and the 15 basketball players , black AND white, probably know close up how their coaches feel about things.... but unless you ARE black( and I’m not) I/ you may not sense the feeling of constant imminent judgement, and I think these kids appreciate the fact that their coaches will go to bat for justice for them, publicly....
I stand by my original comment and wish Gods blessings on you all
Because that would require severe introspection and some blame to be laid. That isn't the angle the politicians want. Helpless victims of the state sells more.
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