Im not trolling, just having a conversation. It just looks like it’s deeper than whats on the surface currently. Agree or no?This is where your attempt at trolling went completely off the rails.
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Im not trolling, just having a conversation. It just looks like it’s deeper than whats on the surface currently. Agree or no?This is where your attempt at trolling went completely off the rails.
so, you are admitting that you don't know, those to be the facts, You are only speculating by your own biased opinion. That is your choice as you have freedom of speech, but, in reality, you don't really knowWell, because it is what I would do. I can't imagine having a conversation with my parents about having a 3some and saying that it was what I wanted to do.
With that said, if I was raped, I would not only report it, I would want the people that did it to be killed...immediately.
So for me, it doesn't add up.
Nobody is arguing age or the statute. The law is more of a guide outside of mandatory sentences in some crimes. The dynamics of this situation do matter and should be taking into account when it comes to punishment. Believe me. None of us want you to keep repeating yourself, so don’t. Recognize what we’re actually debating at this point. You’re becoming redundant.Lets be clear, sending a video over the internet of someone who is a minor engaging in sexual acts is a federal offense, felony level. Washington was legally an adult when he did so, not a kid.
You weren't insinuating that she made a pornographic video? And you aren't insinuating that she lied to her parents because she was afraid of admitting the truth? Please explain what you mean by the quote then.
yes, agree, that's why he needs and deserves his day in courtIm not trolling, just having a conversation. It just looks like it’s deeper than whats on the surface currently. Agree or no?
from what I read, the guys made the video and passed it along to their schoolmatesShe did make a video, that doesn't make her a porn star, that was your comment, weirdo.
so, you are admitting that you don't know, those to be the facts, You are only speculating by your own biased opinion. That is your choice as you have freedom of speech, but, in reality, you don't really know
Yeah, that is what I heard.from what I read, the guys made the video and passed it along to their schoolmates
I didn’t infer or deduce that.Except for the girl, who is a guilty lying person and a whore according to you.
She did make a video, that doesn't make her a porn star, that was your comment, weirdo.
We don't know what happened. Since this happened 3 years ago and the police have had the video for almost a year. Since there still have been no charges of rape. It is just a logical assumption that she might not be telling the truth. The simplest explanation is usually the correct answer. As I said the police have had the video for almost a year. If there was any indication of her fighting or struggling before, during or after. Charges would have been pressed.You are a piece of trash, accusing a then 15 year old girl of being a porn star and labeling her a liar. What the hell is wrong with you?
It is okay and thank you for the apology. I appreciate that.She didn't make the video, my "apologies" for misquoting you. You clearly did not intend to disparage her when you called her a "film star", I obviously misread your virtuous and well meaning intent with the phrase.
B/c the pitchforks came out and it needed to be leveled out. Also not all laws that are broken deserves to be tried by the “letter of the law” or to have the “book thrown at them.” These commonly used terms exist for a reason. The law is somewhat fluid outside of mandatory minimum sentences for specific crimes. Precedents are big in the legal world and a precedent for what I believe to be a worse crime has been set in this situation. The disagreement here is about a warranted punishment.Why do you have to take sides at all, since you agree none of us know all the info?
We don't know what happened. Since this happened 3 years ago and the police have had the video for almost a year. Since there still have been no charges of rape. It is just a logical assumption that she might not be telling the truth. The simplest explanation is usually the correct answer. As I said the police have had the video for almost a year. If there was any indication of her fighting or struggling before, during or after. Charges would have been pressed.
It does appear to be deeper, but that depth can also vindicate. You came to troll as soon as you saw the article.Im not trolling, just having a conversation. It just looks like it’s deeper than whats on the surface currently. Agree or no?
No, I don't agree at all. What's on the surface is that he's facing criminal charges, the evidence seems pretty damning, and his former attorney didn't take the matter seriously enough. And now he has a new attorney. That's plenty "deep," even without any additional conspiracy theories.Im not trolling, just having a conversation. It just looks like it’s deeper than whats on the surface currently. Agree or no?
Agree, putting guilt on anyone before all the facts are out is prematureIt's not really that logical, we don't know how long the video was, we don't know where it was focused or what it captured. A logical conclusion would be that there may not be enough evidence to support a rape charge, a stretch would be to call the girl a liar.
Why is anyone even talking about the girl? Isn’t the issue about child porn? Did the video show minors? Simple yes or no. Was M Washington an adult when he sent it? Simple yes or no. Does California have a revenge porn law? Simple yes or no. Looking for loopholes or placing the blame even partially on a minor child who may have been the victim of a gang rape does not reflect well on those who ventured down that path.
Why is anyone even talking about the girl? Isn’t the issue about child porn? Did the video show minors? Simple yes or no. Was M Washington an adult when he sent it? Simple yes or no. Does California have a revenge porn law? Simple yes or no. Looking for loopholes or placing the blame even partially on a minor child who may have been the victim of a gang rape does not reflect well on those who ventured down that path.
I think most of us are actually debating a different topic now. We are discussing the laws and how they are interpreted.Why is anyone even talking about the girl? Isn’t the issue about child porn? Did the video show minors? Simple yes or no. Was M Washington an adult when he sent it? Simple yes or no. Does California have a revenge porn law? Simple yes or no. Looking for loopholes or placing the blame even partially on a minor child who may have been the victim of a gang rape does not reflect well on those who ventured down that path.
someone on here complained about the old guy who had a bunch of videos was a a pedophile and then wanted to say the Mo shouldn’t be treated the same way. Just trying to point out the foolishness of it. Apparently I’m not doing a good job, sorry.
If it was gang rape how come one of them on the video was charged with a misdemeanor for showing it in 2016..
Is it common to be expelled for a filmed gang rape and for the rapist to get short term probation? I believe the law was intended to curb people from distributing personal intimate videos w/o consent to the masses to hurt their former sexual partner.Why is anyone even talking about the girl? Isn’t the issue about child porn? Did the video show minors? Simple yes or no. Was M Washington an adult when he sent it? Simple yes or no. Does California have a revenge porn law? Simple yes or no. Looking for loopholes or placing the blame even partially on a minor child who may have been the victim of a gang rape does not reflect well on those who ventured down that path.
The female child said it was not consensual and more than 1 male took part, if it was consensual why would M Washington make the comment he did? It sounded to me like it was made as a derogatory statement. But with that all said I prefaced my comment by saying “may have”.If it was gang rape how come one of them on the video was charged with a misdemeanor for showing it in 2016..
The female child said it was not consensual and more than 1 male took part, if it was consensual why would M Washington make the comment he did? It sounded to me like it was made as a derogatory statement. But with that all said I prefaced my comment by saying “may have”.
Can't let the stupidity of this post go.
So, in order to teach the child porn distributor of a possible sexual assault a lesson, let's put him in a shelter with women who have been assaulted! I'm sure those women would have no problem with this, as long as it goes towards making his life better.
Brilliant!
His comment was “Remember this hoe [sic].” How does this in any way indicate whether or not he thought it was consensual? Looks to me like he was just calling her a ho (hoe).The female child said it was not consensual and more than 1 male took part, if it was consensual why would M Washington make the comment he did? It sounded to me like it was made as a derogatory statement. But with that all said I prefaced my comment by saying “may have”.
How is the law written about child porn? If a 15 year old guy give his 15 year old friend a copy of playboy or hustler does he get into trouble? Or is it just pictures of naked minors where people get into trouble? Can a minor buy a playboy or is there a minimum age?We don't know what happened. Since this happened 3 years ago and the police have had the video for almost a year. Since there still have been no charges of rape. It is just a logical assumption that she might not be telling the truth. The simplest explanation is usually the correct answer. As I said the police have had the video for almost a year. If there was any indication of her fighting or struggling before, during or after. Charges would have been pressed.
We don't know what happened. Since this happened 3 years ago and the police have had the video for almost a year. Since there still have been no charges of rape. It is just a logical assumption that she might not be telling the truth. The simplest explanation is usually the correct answer. As I said the police have had the video for almost a year. If there was any indication of her fighting or struggling before, during or after. Charges would have been pressed.
Ok. Here are my two cents. Probably not even worth that...
No, he should not be kicked off the team. What he did was cruel and spiteful and brain dead. But the idea that this young guy is trafficking in “child porn” is an example of something violating the letter of the law but not its inner intent. The dude was sending an ex girlfriend he was bitter towards a spiteful video hoping to hurt her. He was stupid not to remember that she was 15 in the video. But I think this is a case where the law should frown on his stupidity but not criminalize it.
And I would feel this way even if he weren’t a star Husker player. He did not send this video around trying to publicly shame her, which is what the revenge porn laws are seeking to curb. No... he sent it privately to her and only her.
He should have to sit out a game or two. But in my view he should not be kicked off the team,unless more damning evidence is brought forward
I am not convinced of that, and it's irrelevant anyway. Washington was 18 years old, fully an adult according to the law.
Ok. Here are my two cents. Probably not even worth that...
No, he should not be kicked off the team. What he did was cruel and spiteful and brain dead. But the idea that this young guy is trafficking in “child porn” is an example of something violating the letter of the law but not its inner intent. The dude was sending an ex girlfriend he was bitter towards a spiteful video hoping to hurt her. He was stupid not to remember that she was 15 in the video. But I think this is a case where the law should frown on his stupidity but not criminalize it.
And I would feel this way even if he weren’t a star Husker player. He did not send this video around trying to publicly shame her, which is what the revenge porn laws are seeking to curb. No... he sent it privately to her and only her.
He should have to sit out a game or two. But in my view he should not be kicked off the team,unless more damning evidence is brought forward
Ok. Here are my two cents. Probably not even worth that...
No, he should not be kicked off the team. What he did was cruel and spiteful and brain dead. But the idea that this young guy is trafficking in “child porn” is an example of something violating the letter of the law but not its inner intent. The dude was sending an ex girlfriend he was bitter towards a spiteful video hoping to hurt her. He was stupid not to remember that she was 15 in the video. But I think this is a case where the law should frown on his stupidity but not criminalize it.
And I would feel this way even if he weren’t a star Husker player. He did not send this video around trying to publicly shame her, which is what the revenge porn laws are seeking to curb. No... he sent it privately to her and only her.
He should have to sit out a game or two. But in my view he should not be kicked off the team,unless more damning evidence is brought forward