BTW, I said in the locked thread yesterday that I believe he deserves punishment, based on what has been reported I don't believe he deserves to have his life ruined. I stand by that.
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Just as killing someone has different levels of charges and consequences so should child porn. He is not a danger to society, or harming little kids as in other circumstances of child porn. In my opinion this type does not justify being kicked off the team.No, most people just don’t think what he did warrants kicking him off the team. He was most likely ignorant to the fact he was committing a crime. They had a previous romantic relationship and we don’t know the dynamics. It appears that the 3-some was consensual, with regret, to me from the given info and the video taping was the main issue. Washington wasn’t at the school when the video was dispersed and may have not been told to erase it. Finally, he distributed it to the “victim”, not the masses as far as we know. He wasn’t selling the video to pedofiles. Many of us just don’t think it warrants the level of punishment that you do.
To the people that are really sticking to the “it’s child porn” charge and say “well it’s the law”, do you support arresting all the 18 year olds that have girlfriends that are age appropriate but yet would be considered “statutory rape” by the letter of the law?
Well, of course he would be facing more counts if he had more videos. I don't see where that is relevant in the discussion though. The type of charge that he is facing is the same that a 45 year old would face for one video.
In Nebraska it's not just a simple "he was 18 and she was 17" for statutory rape. Here the defendant would have to be 19 and the victim under the age of 16. Whether you think 19 year olds having sex with 15 year olds is something society should allow, I'll leave up to you. Me saying "it's child porn" and "well it's the law" has nothing to do with how I feel about it, it has to do with what the law says.To the people that are really sticking to the “it’s child porn” charge and say “well it’s the law”, do you support arresting all the 18 year olds that have girlfriends that are age appropriate but yet would be considered “statutory rape” by the letter of the law?
Yes the same charge should get the same sentence for the charge. He has one video not 100+. Those on here acting like he going to get the same sentence as the guy with the 100+ videos, credibility for them isn’t going in the right direction. It’s one vs many and so the 45 year old would have 100 counts against him not one.
Thought about it, but We have a pretty clear Idea. He is being charged with child porn and revenge porn. What is going on in the video doesn't really matter as far as the child porn charge. So that case is separate and doesn't affect his child porn charge, or the revenge porn charge. Since I don't believe he has denied sending the video, I think the Revenge porn charge will be tough to dispute and he will be found guilty of that. Unless they find pics of little kids on his computer and or cell phone the Child porn charge is BS and a technicality in my eyes if he is found guilty or not. So then it becomes should he be kicked off for being found guilty of revenge porn. I say nope.
Do you understand the line ignorance is not a defense? I don’t know by heart the limit for BAC in every state for DUI/DWI laws, if I am traveling for work and get popped for driving drunk is saying I didn’t know you were that strict a legit defense?
Someone has already been placed on probation because of distribution of child porn of this very video.
In Nebraska it's not just a simple "he was 18 and she was 17" for statutory rape. Here the defendant would have to be 19 and the victim under the age of 16. Whether you think 19 year olds having sex with 15 year olds is something society should allow, I'll leave up to you. Me saying "it's child porn" and "well it's the law" has nothing to do with how I feel about it, it has to do with what the law says.
I actually use Netscape still...soooooo let me get my dial up going.Google Genarlow Wilson
If you don't know it's a crime to not pay your taxes does the IRS go, "Oh ok lol well in that case!"
Typically the law already has this base covered through age of consent statutes and defining acceptable age gaps.To the people that are really sticking to the “it’s child porn” charge and say “well it’s the law”, do you support arresting all the 18 year olds that have girlfriends that are age appropriate but yet would be considered “statutory rape” by the letter of the law?
But that person actually distributed the video as opposed to what Mo did. Probation should be the max he receives. Keep him on the team, help him learn his lesson, not kick him to the curb.
Typically the law already has this base covered through age of consent statutes and defining acceptable age gaps.
And the difference so many of you cannot grasp is that this girl never consented to Mo having this video or to ANYONE sharing it. She may not have even known she was being filmed.
He should get probation and a game or two suspension. That’s what I believe to be a rational and deserving punishment given the dynamics of their relationship. I don’t believe any 18 year old regardless of them being a Husker should see more of a punishment than that in this situation. “It appears” means that from reading past and present info along with the punishments handed out to the “victim” and the videographers that it’s my opinion that kicking him off the team is unwarranted. None of us have all the info yet it’s ok to crusify the kid, but not defend him or his right to die process.And what level of punishment is that? I predicted what I thought might happen (misdemeanor and probation), I didn't say anything about what I thought he deserved. Since everyone is using the phrase "it appears" while talking out of their ass, I'll say it appears that not many around here like this revenge porn statute or are concerned about the actions that it is intended to deter.
He was not an early enrollee, he had quite a long way to go to qualify academically. He committed for the second signing period last year. He managed to get eligible in the summer against very long odds and didn't report until fall. Part of the reason he was maybe 170 lbs.I don't remember if he enrolled early or not.
Fair enough. In that context I agree with you.Many here have said he should be gone no matter what because “child porn!” So how people feel does matter. Because if/when this gets plead down to the appropriate level of legal punishment (I.e. not a felony) the university will have to make a decision. A decision based on how people feel about this.
Typically the law already has this base covered through age of consent statutes and defining acceptable age gaps.
And the difference so many of you cannot grasp is that this girl never consented to Mo having this video or to ANYONE sharing it. She may not have even known she was being filmed.
Sounds like you've got the case all stitched up. Good luck getting the judge to agree, counselor.Doesn’t hold water. He shared it with her. You need consent to share something with the person not pertains to? It’s not like she didn’t know about it. He didn’t distribute it to the school. He sent it to her. The kid who sent it to everyone got probation. Not a felony. What he did pales in comparison.
He was not an early enrollee, he had quite a long way to go to qualify academically. He committed for the second signing period last year. He managed to get eligible in the summer against very long odds and didn't report until fall. Part of the reason he was maybe 170 lbs.
NU is claiming they didn't know the full extent of the situation which sounds...dubious. You knew the cops wanted to talk to one of your commits, you lawyered him up, but you never bothered to find out what it was all about exactly? Sure you didn't.
Another one of those "what did they know and when did they know it?" scenarios.
He was not an early enrollee, he had quite a long way to go to qualify academically. He committed for the second signing period last year. He managed to get eligible in the summer against very long odds and didn't report until fall. Part of the reason he was maybe 170 lbs.
NU is claiming they didn't know the full extent of the situation which sounds...dubious. You knew the cops wanted to talk to one of your commits, you lawyered him up, but you never bothered to find out what it was all about exactly? Sure you didn't.
Another one of those "what did they know and when did they know it?" scenarios.
I fully support his right to die process and due process too! Hey, it cracked me up because I was literally like "right to die???" this is going too far! And then I caught on....his right to die process.
Do agree that there are certain situations where speeding is warranted and doesn’t deserve punishment? It is the law.In Nebraska it's not just a simple "he was 18 and she was 17" for statutory rape. Here the defendant would have to be 19 and the victim under the age of 16. Whether you think 19 year olds having sex with 15 year olds is something society should allow, I'll leave up to you. Me saying "it's child porn" and "well it's the law" has nothing to do with how I feel about it, it has to do with what the law says.
What I understand and what a teenage kid understands are two completly different things.
Sounds like you've got the case all stitched up. Good luck getting the judge to agree, counselor.
Would make sense. You had to wonder what it was he kept getting kicked out of schools for. They don't boot you out of school just because you have bad grades or you broke the dress code. It takes something pretty serious. Usually several somethings.Add in his expulsion from school in the spring of 2018, shortly after the girls parents saw the message and video. The school has only said that his expulsion was not academically related, it isn't much of a stretch to think that the expulsion and this incident went together.
There's only about 17 pages of me and others explaining why what he did is not just a crime but multiple crimes. If you can't follow along that's not my problem at this point.Resorting to straw men when presented with logic you can’t disagree with? Standard beav.
There's only about 17 pages of me and others explaining why what he did is not just a crime but multiple crimes. If you can't follow along that's not my problem at this point.
For those on the side of Yes he should be kicked off the team and he should face charges for child porn and if it ruins his life, it ruins his life so be it. Consequences to actions ect ect.
If this was your son, would you feel the same? You would be ok with your son potentially having his life ruined. Being known and labeled a sex offender. Losing his football scholarship and the passion he has for football.