- Dec 1, 2014
You should reread your own post. Holy smokes you state Vedral having been in Frosts system for 4+ years should not be expected to successfully lead his team mid season yet you bury and vilify an injured sophomore w/o redshirt year for not living up to expectations. He was not good but let’s put some blame on poor line play, high center snaps taking focus off seeing the field, few receiver options capable of stretching the field and Walters not in sync with his fellow staff and players.You can't just throw a guy in the starting spot, in the middle of the season, for a game or two, and expect instant results. There is an entire leadership component to a team and also a physical component to QB and skill players where they develop timing together and all sorts of nuances.
You could easily see how the tempo looked drastically different. That part was immediately visible with Vedral in there.
I absolutely believe, if Vedral had been the starter from spring ball all through last year, we would have absolutely won more games.
The self confidence issue with the current QB bled over to the rest of the team, with now others questioning their own abilities and the whole ship started sinking, all because a weak leader was left in charge of the team. That is on the coaching staff.
It shouldn't be concerning at all, because while I blamed the player the first 2 years, and I have gotten so much shit for it, I am now going to blame the coach, because of all people, he should understand what is going on. He's the person deciding who is playing and who are the leaders.
Now you have to read between the lines, but we had a lot of players leave.. all sorts of official answers were given, but I really believe it had more to do with not wanting to be part of the shit show again that was last year.
In life, you are as successful as the people you surround yourself with. Don't hang around losers, because that sort of stuff wears off. I think the same is true for athletics. Why would any player risk their window, being on a team led by a guy who is in over his head?
I absolutely think a guy like Adrian would make a great friend and counselor.. but I would not want to go to war with that guy. At that is what leadership is like on a football team. You HAVE to KNOW and BELIEVE that guy is going to be able to get it done when you need it. Even as a fan, you can't tell me you know or believe, because he has failed those challenges so many times. Meeting them would be the exception, not the rule.
This is why this is on the coach now. You had a team where self confidence issues became like a cancer last year, all stemming from ONE guy. That ONE guy, was actually a CANCER to the team in my opinion. He caused all sorts of damage, without even meaning to do that, but it's the coach's fault for putting him in that position in the first place.
Why would any coach do that? One that sees the absolute athletic gifts that he never had. Scott see those, and salivates at it.. the things Martinez can do, and is capable of, but is too blind to see that the mentality is not there. Having talent alone is not enough. You have to have an ultra competitive mindset to be a big time football player and the privilege to lead and QB a team.
Anyway, in my mind, we haven't seen a coach building a team.. we've witnessed a coach so stubborn as to see his choices leading to the team falling apart around him the last two years, and not understanding how to re-evaluate his approach or his unwillingness to do so.
I know you now have shifted to blaming Frost instead of Martinez. We definitely should have won 2 more games and he is far from blameless but most of us knew he wasn’t taking over OSU and he would need to grow and develop as a HC. Look in the mirror, were you the best you were ever going to be in the first couple of years of your job or career? You better hope not.