Sam's article on NU recruiting

[inWV]

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/footba...cle_32d56ca8-5baf-5d6e-9328-a89c366f8789.html

Wears out the whole Calibraska thing. We have always recruited CA. NU has a national recruiting footprint. It seems some positions are easier to land than others. The Wisconsin/Iowa model is out there (focus less on high flyers and more on state/regional prospects) and it seems some are fans of this. NU has always pulled recruits from wherever they live, plus competing for those within a day's drive. Why would that change?
Note: Pelini was 4-4 against Iowa/Wisconsin and Riley is 0-4.

 

[dinglefritz]

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/footba...cle_32d56ca8-5baf-5d6e-9328-a89c366f8789.html

Wears out the whole Calibraska thing. We have always recruited CA. NU has a national recruiting footprint. It seems some positions are easier to land than others. The Wisconsin/Iowa model is out there (focus less on high flyers and more on state/regional prospects) and it seems some are fans of this. NU has always pulled recruits from wherever they live, plus competing for those within a day's drive. Why would that change?
Note: Pelini was 4-4 against Iowa/Wisconsin and Riley is 0-4.

Riley is O-4 with Pelini's recruits against those schools.

 

[MikeRileyGBR]

Riley is O-4 with Pelini's recruits against those schools.

Yeah so it's not Riley's fault, he was just the HC during those games and was the one prepping them for it. No big deal

 

[scarletneverfades]

http://www.omaha.com/huskers/footba...cle_32d56ca8-5baf-5d6e-9328-a89c366f8789.html

Wears out the whole Calibraska thing. We have always recruited CA. NU has a national recruiting footprint. It seems some positions are easier to land than others. The Wisconsin/Iowa model is out there (focus less on high flyers and more on state/regional prospects) and it seems some are fans of this. NU has always pulled recruits from wherever they live, plus competing for those within a day's drive. Why would that change?
Note: Pelini was 4-4 against Iowa/Wisconsin and Riley is 0-4.

 

[scarletneverfades]

He referred to Clint's e-mail sent out yesterday. What a dumb ass time to be sending this e-mail. We still have California recruits out there. What do you suppose their reaction to the article would be. Clint should have shared his wisdom a month from now.

 

[H.T.O.]

He spends the majority of the article about Clint's email then ends his article with this...

As for me? I think NU has to keep pushing for the best prospects. See the Calibraska strategy through to the end. It’s the region Riley knows best, and he hired coaches who know it just as well. Go where you know.

Sam is terrible.

 

[timnsun]

Yeah so it's not Riley's fault, he was just the HC during those games and was the one prepping them for it. No big deal

Not at all, but I do think Pelini would now be 4-8 against Iowa and Wisconsin if he were still the coach... Fair enough?

 

[dinglefritz]

Yeah so it's not Riley's fault, he was just the HC during those games and was the one prepping them for it. No big deal

I just stated a fact. You can spin it any way you want. Whatever fits your agenda which is very clear to everybody on this board.

 

[CDMXHusker]

Not at all, but I do think Pelini would now be 4-8 against Iowa and Wisconsin if he were still the coach... Fair enough?

I hate the continued bashing on Pelini. He is gone, he was fired, let it go already!! I wanted him to succeed and he didn't quite get there and was let go. I don't disagree with that decision but I do disagree with it if you didn't have a better option in the wings which it is apparent was not there. So the AD fired him and brought in a worse replacement. I disagree with you, Pelini would not have dropped the last 4. At worst I think he would have been 2-2.

 

[headcard]

I hate the continued bashing on Pelini. He is gone, he was fired, let it go already!! I wanted him to succeed and he didn't quite get there and was let go. I don't disagree with that decision but I do disagree with it if you didn't have a better option in the wings which it is apparent was not there. So the AD fired him and brought in a worse replacement. I disagree with you, Pelini would not have dropped the last 4. At worst I think he would have been 2-2.

You are out of your mind.

 

[Mr.Scary13]

I hate the continued bashing on Pelini. He is gone, he was fired, let it go already!! I wanted him to succeed and he didn't quite get there and was let go. I don't disagree with that decision but I do disagree with it if you didn't have a better option in the wings which it is apparent was not there. So the AD fired him and brought in a worse replacement. I disagree with you, Pelini would not have dropped the last 4. At worst I think he would have been 2-2.

lol

 

[NikkiSixx]

I think Sam was clever about it. He used a fan's email, to get away with publishing some negative thoughts and then tried to look like the good guy walking back the fan's ideas. That didn't take any gonads either, but at least he doesn't entirely look like the bad guy.

 

[inWV]

FWIW, I think Pelini wins against Iowa last year, but probably loses to the Badgers both years more decisively. Doesn't win against Iowa w/ gimpy Tommy this year.

 

[huskerfan1414]

I hate the continued bashing on Pelini. He is gone, he was fired, let it go already!! I wanted him to succeed and he didn't quite get there and was let go. I don't disagree with that decision but I do disagree with it if you didn't have a better option in the wings which it is apparent was not there. So the AD fired him and brought in a worse replacement. I disagree with you, Pelini would not have dropped the last 4. At worst I think he would have been 2-2.

He was referencing Pelini because someone else posted Pelini's record against the teams in comparison to Riley.
We'll never know but it doesn't matter, bo couldn't get the job done.

 

[MikeRileyGBR]

I just stated a fact. You can spin it any way you want. Whatever fits your agenda which is very clear to everybody on this board.

Whatever you think it is, I hope you are not implying that it has anything to do with a pro Pelini stance, who by the way sucked ass for Nebraska.

Let's see how Riley does next year if he can get a "1" in that win column against Iowa/Wis, he has the type of players now he wants for his offense and it's year three so finger's crossed

 

[coachDubs]

@thepandatangent

When's your next brilliant article coming?

 

[jawbreakingsafetyplay]

Sam is toilet.

 

[Huskers_Rule]

Sam is toilet.

Yep used to be here trashing the program and Husker fans and now he makes his living off us.

 

[CC_Lemming]

Yep used to be here trashing the program and Husker fans and now he makes his living off us.

I don't recall that at all, but he is the latest and most popular punching bag now that Pelini is gone and Sipple is no longer his water boy. One wonders whether people on this site like anyone in the media.

 

[jawbreakingsafetyplay]

I don't recall that at all, but he is the latest and most popular punching bag now that Pelini is gone and Sipple is no longer his water boy. One wonders whether people on this site like anyone in the media.

When he was on here many moons a go, he seemed to have had a lot of promise. I think what we saw then was that he was a finished product, although myself included, had bigger hopes for him with the OWH.

The local Nebraska media from Lincoln and Omaha as a whole gets a grade of D for me as a fan. It doesn't help that the media represents a fan base that oftentimes has an IQ of ham sandwich when it comes to football. These guys carried Pelini's water for 7 years and treated him with kid gloves up until the last stages of his time in Lincoln when it was clear he was out and then they actually put his feet to the fire. Except, when the new guy came to town, they forgot to put away their torches and pitchforks and have just bitched about the new guy ever since. Dirk stuck his neck out there and challenged Pelini well before the rest of his peers dared to do so. He has also not liked the Riley hire since it was announced, and it shows in everything he writes about the program. Even he recently has written some real humdingers where he has an argument at the beginning, but when you reach the end of it, he spends 1500 words stumbling around trying to find a conclusion and he winds up in the same place Sipple did exposing himself to the world, figuratively of course.

 

[inWV]

The incentive to give the coach the benefit of the doubt is stong. Pelini was a 9-10 win guy, so the worst he could get for several year was vague doubts. Riley got the latent bad press that was due Pelini. The 6-7 first year didn't help. It is what it is. Five NCs, so historical standards are high. For the coaches, buy the ticket, take the ride. Plenty of guys would love to be in their psn.

 

[dinglefritz]

When he was on here many moons a go, he seemed to have had a lot of promise. I think what we saw then was that he was a finished product, although myself included, had bigger hopes for him with the OWH.

The local Nebraska media from Lincoln and Omaha as a whole gets a grade of D for me as a fan. It doesn't help that the media represents a fan base that oftentimes has an IQ of ham sandwich when it comes to football. These guys carried Pelini's water for 7 years and treated him with kid gloves up until the last stages of his time in Lincoln when it was clear he was out and then they actually put his feet to the fire. Except, when the new guy came to town, they forgot to put away their torches and pitchforks and have just bitched about the new guy ever since. Dirk stuck his neck out there and challenged Pelini well before the rest of his peers dared to do so. He has also not liked the Riley hire since it was announced, and it shows in everything he writes about the program. Even he recently has written some real humdingers where he has an argument at the beginning, but when you reach the end of it, he spends 1500 words stumbling around trying to find a conclusion and he winds up in the same place Sipple did exposing himself to the world, figuratively of course.

Click bait. The OWH and many other rags have become nothing more than bait trying to drive viewers to their websites to advance their agendas. You write things you know are controversial and maybe borderline true just to get eyeballs. Truth has become very elusive in our newspapers starting with anything owned by Gannett.

 

[supersport24]

FWIW, I think Pelini wins against Iowa last year, but probably loses to the Badgers both years more decisively. Doesn't win against Iowa w/ gimpy Tommy this year.

Pelini would have probably beat the Badgers two years ago. They weren't a very good team. Our defense was a complete mess that year. Pelini wouldn't have went 0-4 for sure. He also seemed to do pretty well against Iowa. Like the other poster wrote if you're going to fire a coach try to hire someone better.

 

[timnsun]

Pelini would have probably beat the Badgers two years ago. They weren't a very good team. Our defense was a complete mess that year. Pelini wouldn't have went 0-4 for sure. He also seemed to do pretty well against Iowa. Like the other poster wrote if you're going to fire a coach try to hire someone better.

You may be right on this, but who really knows?

Your last sentence just makes me laugh a little... I'm sure Eichorst was thinking, "Now if I fire Pelini, I don't really care if the guy I hire is better or not." Of course you try to hire someone better. And many on here think Riley is better than pelini, in spite of his record the first two years. You look at the work he's done on the recruiting trail and you look at the assistants he has on staff and it seems pretty clear that he is an improvement... it's just taking some time to show up in the W/L column.

If you don't see any positives in the coaches he has hired and the way recruiting is going, that's on you I guess.

 

[chicolby]

Riley wasn't going to produce an I Dream of Jeannie blink of the eyes and all is better fix.

He was brought in to change a culture and that takes time. We needed a mindset shift and a talent shift. Those things don't happen overnight.

I accept that the previous coaching staff would have a better two year record than Riley. But there would be no light at the end of the tunnel. We are now betting on a light vs same ol same ol.

 

[Charlie Marlow]

I recall Sam being not so bad, yet he always seemed to have a pretty high opinion of himself.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Riley wasn't going to produce an I Dream of Jeannie blink of the eyes and all is better fix.

He was brought in to change a culture and that takes time. We needed a mindset shift and a talent shift. Those things don't happen overnight.

I accept that the previous coaching staff would have a better two year record than Riley. But there would be no light at the end of the tunnel. We are now betting on a light vs same ol same ol.

Really good post. This is spot on.

 

[bigboxes]

Pelini would have probably beat the Badgers two years ago. They weren't a very good team. Our defense was a complete mess that year. Pelini wouldn't have went 0-4 for sure. He also seemed to do pretty well against Iowa. Like the other poster wrote if you're going to fire a coach try to hire someone better.

That's pretty much what Bo-ners would say. You could hire Saban and there is no way that he could win conference championships in two years at NU. It's just not possible with the talent. Riley was hired to right the ship. While you see stability in Pelini, the rest of us saw a man that hit ceiling. To do better required a housecleaning. Bo made sure he burned the program to the ground on the way out. The previous staff was still meddling in our affairs after they had departed. It was a toxic mess. I know that it comes down to wins & losses. It always does. But Riley has a lot more leeway due to the dumpster fire that Pelini left. Would it have been a lot harder for critics to go after him like they have if those close losses his first year had gone the other way? For sure.

If you can't see what a great ambassador Riley is for the program then you've got your hate hat on too tight. He's had a solid recruiting plan from day one. Something that Bo and company just didn't or couldn't understand. We won 9 games this last year. That is on par with Bo's results. That is doing so with Bo's leftovers. You could see that those that stuck around bought in this last year. And it showed. Af the end of the year, Riley showed the door to staff that wasn't living up to his expectations. Our recruiting is actually exciting to watch. Instead of just signing an athlete that fills a need we are getting those that others want.

I'm excited about the coming years. Why aren't you?

 

[Pennsyhusker]

That's pretty much what Bo-ners would say. You could hire Saban and there is no way that he could win conference championships in two years at NU. It's just not possible with the talent. Riley was hired to right the ship. While you see stability in Pelini, the rest of us saw a man that hit ceiling. To do better required a housecleaning. Bo made sure he burned the program to the ground on the way out. The previous staff was still meddling in our affairs after they had departed. It was a toxic mess. I know that it comes down to wins & losses. It always does. But Riley has a lot more leeway due to the dumpster fire that Pelini left. Would it have been a lot harder for critics to go after him like they have if those close losses his first year had gone the other way? For sure.

If you can't see what a great ambassador Riley is for the program then you've got your hate hat on too tight. He's had a solid recruiting plan from day one. Something that Bo and company just didn't or couldn't understand. We won 9 games this last year. That is on par with Bo's results. That is doing so with Bo's leftovers. You could see that those that stuck around bought in this last year. And it showed. Af the end of the year, Riley showed the door to staff that wasn't living up to his expectations. Our recruiting is actually exciting to watch. Instead of just signing an athlete that fills a need we are getting those that others want.

I'm excited about the coming years. Why aren't you?

I wish I could hit "like" for this post 100 times. Rivals needs a "super like" option. Lol