Obviously an entirely new staff. Have there been any article comparing philosophy differences between the two and what they are working to improve immediately this winter?
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I’ve been waiting on an update of their plan for how many times each player will puke during lifting sessions. 
I’ve been waiting on an update of their plan for how many times each player will puke during lifting sessions.
Hopefully no more quarter-squat gang videos on Twitter with a guy quarter-squatting 5 plates with 5 spotters.
I would not conclusions based on anything I saw on Twitter or any other forum. How does knew know if this is part of the required limiting or a bunch of guys having some fun? I would further to say that those who are expecting it to show up on the field in some miraculous manner may either disappointed or go out of their way to point out a play where the improved S&C saved the day.
If players are serious about football, I would believe they are working hard in the S&C program right now (actually doing the work, not fake doing the work). I would also think they are having unorganized practices as well.
There is only one way to close the gap between a top 20 team and a top 120 team is to put in the work. Lots and lots of work to do.
There is only one way to close the gap between a top 20 team and a top 120 team is to put in the work. Lots and lots of work to do.
I saw a video a few years ago with one guy doing the quartersquat bit but the bar was structured in such a way they really didn't have to balance it or hold it. Yep, a crowd of guys woofing and jawing. As a former competitive powerlifter I had to roll my eyes. Squatting is a melding of weight and depth. Guys like the weight but not the depth.
For every ten guys that claim to Squat 500 lbs maybe 1 or 2 can actually take the weight to proper depth.
Back in the day the gym I was at had some football players join up in the off-season.
The two most impressive guys was Danny Noonan, everything seemed effortless to him and a guy named Clint (I think) a db, who honestly didn't look like much. He mostly did hang cleans and other power moves. For what he weighed he could move some weight. Like Noonan it seemed to come easy to him.
I just remember he was a vicious hitter who was known for knocking himself out as well as the opponent.
I've been in gyms a long time. I've seen behemoths who were weak but also seen a few average looking guys who could inexplainably do some amazing things.
Edit: Clint Finley was the guys name.
Agree 100% with pascal. That guided shit is good for nothing. Instead of your muscles providing the power to control the bar, the stinking bar does it for them. No wonder these dudes can't bend at the waist and have any power in their hips.
A new guy coming in, presuming he is a pro, will produce some way more explosive athletes, especially in the big guys who have wasted their time the last 2-3-4- years.
Nautilus is nice to play around with at home, but you better do the free weights if you're gonna train competitively.
It would be cool for our guys to look like they're on the magic vitamins. Frost's guys shit all over Riley's guys but the results were worse.
I think it's been longer the just the last 2-3-4 years. I may be wrong but I think our S&C has been lagging behind other programs for longer than that.
I was mainly referring to the last regime and the way Duval ran the strength program further into the ground.
Quarter squats with 5 spotters is dbag ego lifting and about as beneficial to proper S/C as a diet of donuts and coca cola.
Any serious athlete or real lifter knows this about quarter squats.
I was training on a squat rack once and a skinny guy who looked like Ron Howard on Happy Days took the rack next to me. The racks had Rogue coated plates so deadlifting in front of them was cool. He was deadlifting. He put a wheel on each side and lifted it. Then two, then three, then four, then five. He then put on a couple quarters and did five reps making lifting 545 look easy. I asked him, "Excuse me, but how did you learn to do that and make it look so easy?" He shrugged his shoulders and said, "I dunno, I've been deadlifting my whole life."
At one of the gyms on Camp Pendleton they had the lifting records by weight class for that gym. What freaked me out wasn't the amount guys lifted, it was what they weighed while doing it. So for instance, Lance Corporal Murphy set the record for bench for guys weighing 140-150 lbs with a lift of something like 375.
This.^
Additionally, convos over S&C sometimes focus too much on the S.
We may have looked a little physically weak when Frost arrived. While we might have gotten stronger? (regardless), and we got a lot of youth that needs to get stronger, our #1 issue has been footwork, particularly in the trenches.
Footwork footwork footwork.
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