Run the ball, stop the run, special teams

[Sinomatic]

Oregon was winning under Chip/Helfrich with mostly 3 stars and low end 4 stars in a very similar fashion to our recruiting. USC, UCLA, and Washington were still out-recruiting them in the Pac12. Their stud QBs in Mariota and Darron Thomas were both 3*s coming out of high school.

As for it being a failed scheme because it never won a Natty? Ridiculous. Their no huddle offense with the zone read scheme and extremely fast execution changed the entire landscape of college football. Everybody thought it was absurd at the time, but you look at the top end teams now and they all have incorporated a number of the concepts that Oregon ran 10-13 years ago.

From 2008-2014 Oregon won 4 Pac10/12 Championships, lost a Natty game 19-22, played in the CFB playoffs in another, and never finished ranked outside the Top 10. I'll take that kind of 'failure' every 3rd year at Nebraska these days.

So if Nebraska has a coaching staff that teaches that style of Chip Kelly offense and Nebraska is still not winning championships then why not change it up with the style of offense? Or better question, whom do you hire that is not only stellar, but runs what you think gives the best chance at winning a championship at this time?

I'm down for whatever this next carousel ride. But if Scott or the next pass lean offensive genius don't pan out playing soup dejour. Then I would rather watch an offense that will at least keep the games close. And with the talent that Nebraska can attract just due to our history, we stand a good shot at having our standard of magical seasons in the division the Cornhuskers play in.

 

[NikkiSixx]

Oregon was winning under Chip/Helfrich with mostly 3 stars and low end 4 stars in a very similar fashion to our recruiting. USC, UCLA, and Washington were still out-recruiting them in the Pac12. Their stud QBs in Mariota and Darron Thomas were both 3*s coming out of high school.

As for it being a failed scheme because it never won a Natty? Ridiculous. Their no huddle offense with the zone read scheme and extremely fast execution changed the entire landscape of college football. Everybody thought it was absurd at the time, but you look at the top end teams now and they all have incorporated a number of the concepts that Oregon ran 10-13 years ago.

From 2008-2014 Oregon won 4 Pac10/12 Championships, lost a Natty game 19-22, played in the CFB playoffs in another, and never finished ranked outside the Top 10. I'll take that kind of 'failure' every 3rd year at Nebraska these days.

Oregon's national championship trophy case is just as bare as Iowa's.

If it ever actually won something, everyone would be running it, but they are not. It's a failed scheme. It requires a heisman caliber QB to run it, and even then, nobody has won it all with that scheme.

There are plenty of examples of schemes that actually work and win titles. Scott Frost's isn't one of them.

 

[antirowboat]

Oregon was winning under Chip/Helfrich with mostly 3 stars and low end 4 stars in a very similar fashion to our recruiting. USC, UCLA, and Washington were still out-recruiting them in the Pac12. Their stud QBs in Mariota and Darron Thomas were both 3*s coming out of high school.

As for it being a failed scheme because it never won a Natty? Ridiculous. Their no huddle offense with the zone read scheme and extremely fast execution changed the entire landscape of college football. Everybody thought it was absurd at the time, but you look at the top end teams now and they all have incorporated a number of the concepts that Oregon ran 10-13 years ago.

From 2008-2014 Oregon won 4 Pac10/12 Championships, lost a Natty game 19-22, played in the CFB playoffs in another, and never finished ranked outside the Top 10. I'll take that kind of 'failure' every 3rd year at Nebraska these days.

That was a unique offense at that time. It no longer is.

 

[StoneTempleHusker]

That was a unique offense at that time. It no longer is.

Well, they were able to beat Ohio State in their own crib with inferior talent.

You're right, it is pretty unique. Nobody in the B10 seems to have any ability to do that.

 

[antirowboat]

Well, they were able to beat Ohio State in their own crib with inferior talent.

You're right, it is pretty unique. Nobody in the B10 seems to have any ability to do that.

Inferior talent? Not really. Oregon has a ton of high-quality talent, with 4 straight classes near or inside the top 10.

Ohio State's problems are more about themselves than anyone else they will play this year. Ryan Day is way too pass-happy and is running too much of a soft offensive attack and this DC sucks.

 

[antirowboat]

Oregon runs the split zone RPO.

 

[StoneTempleHusker]

Inferior talent? Not really. Oregon has a ton of high-quality talent, with 4 straight classes near or inside the top 10.

Ohio State's problems are more about themselves than anyone else they will play this year. Ryan Day is way too pass-happy and is running too much of a soft offensive attack and this DC sucks.

'Near' inside the Top 10 is like saying I nearly had sex with Jennifer Aniston.

Ohio States last 4 classes: 2, 2, 14, 5
Oregon: 19, 13, 7, 11 (according to 247 composite)

If the number of 4 and 5*s doesn't matter, and it simply comes down to coaching, then Tom Osborne should have never lost to Barry Switzer, and we'd have 8 or 9 more national titles to our name.

 

[antirowboat]

'Near' inside the Top 10 is like saying I nearly had sex with Jennifer Aniston.

Ohio States last 4 classes: 2, 2, 14, 5
Oregon: 19, 13, 7, 11 (according to 247 composite)

If the number of 4 and 5*s doesn't matter, and it simply comes down to coaching, then Tom Osborne should have never lost to Barry Switzer, and we'd have 8 or 9 more national titles to our name.

Oregon won the game because they were coached better and better prepared to win. The really wasn't a big mismatch of talent. The top Wr at Ohio State was covered by a future first-round pick at CB. Oregon has NFL draftees at OL that made Ohio State look like they don't have big-time defensive lineman.

 

[StoneTempleHusker]

Oregon won the game because they were coached better and better prepared to win. The really wasn't a big mismatch of talent. The top Wr at Ohio State was covered by a future first-round pick at CB. Oregon has NFL draftees at OL that made Ohio State look like they don't have big-time defensive lineman.

Can't disagree.

While it seems a bit crazy, the Oregon coach was a former OL Tackle at Miami during their heydays in the early 90s. Now he is just a normal 6'2" 190 pound human. So he knows how to coach the trenches, and knows what he wants. They won the line of scrimmage against Ohio State. B10 teams are lining up now for a shot at the Bucks.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

So Ryan Day who is

Inferior talent? Not really. Oregon has a ton of high-quality talent, with 4 straight classes near or inside the top 10.

Ohio State's problems are more about themselves than anyone else they will play this year. Ryan Day is way too pass-happy and is running too much of a soft offensive attack and this DC sucks.

lol. Now Ryan Day, 24-3 as a head coach, with losses to Clemson, Alabama and Oregon is now a bad coach and is way too pass happy? Ha ha ha your foolishness has no limits.

 

[StoneTempleHusker]

So Ryan Day who is

lol. Now Ryan Day, 24-3 as a head coach, with losses to Clemson, Alabama and Oregon is now a bad coach and is way to pass happy? Ha ha ha your foolishness has no limits.

Well, when you believe we need to run the option offense like our days of lore Every Single Play, then this is what you get.

While even TO ran it about 12% of the time, and went entire games without running an option with an actual pitch, we now need to run that game plan every single play like we are an armed forces school with massively inferior talent.

 

[antirowboat]

So Ryan Day who is

lol. Now Ryan Day, 24-3 as a head coach, with losses to Clemson, Alabama and Oregon is now a bad coach and is way to pass happy? Ha ha ha your foolishness has no limits.

You are being stupid. Nobody is saying he is bad. He is softer than Urban Meyer and his choices on defense for coaches are leaving Ohio State fans scratching their heads.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

You are being stupid. Nobody is saying he is bad. He is softer than Urban Meyer and his choices on defense for coaches are leaving Ohio State fans scratching their heads.

No one is scratching their heads. Ohio St will win out and be in line for a CFP spot. Just like every year since 2014.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

You are being stupid. Nobody is saying he is bad. He is softer than Urban Meyer and his choices on defense for coaches are leaving Ohio State fans scratching their heads.

Still waiting for a reply on those prolific Michigan St rushing attacks from 2013 and 2015 that won Big Ten titles.

 

[Tuco Salamanca]

Here comes Justin Fields into the game, to run option, down 34-14 with 3:00 to go.