What a great and thoughtful kid.
If you are one of the people sending hateful messages his way YOU ARE THE PROBLEM
If you are one of the people sending hateful messages his way YOU ARE THE PROBLEM
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Yep. I haven't always liked all the players, but any fan who seeks out a player so they can personally criticize them on their social media account, etc. is the biggest of bags of douche.What a great and thoughtful kid.
If you are one of the people sending hateful messages his way YOU ARE THE PROBLEM
No kidding!Yep. I haven't always liked all the players, but any fan who seeks out a player so they can personally criticize them on their social media account, etc. is the biggest of bags of douche.
Fully agree. You can't be required to believe a certain way about things, but you do need to understand that there are points of view that are a bad look in the eyes of people who don't sunburn as easily as you do. I don't expect to ever be made a moderator but believe that if I were, politics on this board would be OVER.there were more protests by players from Michigan and Michigan State than Neb and I do not see locked threads on their boards and players getting derogatory messages
keep this shit up and our recruiting focus is going to quickly shift to the Dakotas, Wyoming, Montana and western Nebraska. Lots and lots of ammo being provided by our fanbase to other schools located in more diverse areas to question why in the world an African American recruit would go to Nebraska
Is he free to speak his mind-- yes. However, MRI and all athletes doing this need to understand when they are using football (or whatever forum) they are doing so at their own risk. If they would do this somewhere as a normal public citizen that is totally different.
My beef with all of them is that they are doing this to "call attention" to the problems. In other words, I want someone else to fix it. They need to be the ones to work on solving the problems themselves. If that's donating money, time, etc. that's fine. You just can't expect to complain if you're not doing something yourself. That's hypocritical.
I can see where one would want to shield them from being in the crosshairs of people's backlash about that.I think it is becoming painfully obvious that Coach Riley should not have allowed this to happen. Encourage them to find a different venue and be supportive but you are representing the University and the State of Nebraska. It was hard to watch as he has described things that he has endured in his 20 some years as well as what his parents have endured since the game. I hope it doesn't divide the team and certainly don't believe it will quietly go away.
Yet you posted in a thread about it. Getting people to talk about it is creating awareness.HE MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE THOUGH.
Oh wait, he accomplished nothing.
Yet you posted in a thread about it. Getting people to talk about it is creating awareness.
Riley also brought in a college rape victim to address the team. Those guys are getting an education of life and social issues outside of football that most coaches would never allow to happen. No better time to learn about these topics. This team is starting to take on the identity of what a seasoned coach who is comfortable in his own skin can bring to the table.I can see where one would want to shield them from being in the crosshairs of people's backlash about that.
Breaks my heart to hear the pain in his voice when he's talking about the things people said to him. It has to be far more painful as his coach, parent, friend, etc. to see him treated that way. But I'm a big believer that when you shield your kids from everything painful, you deprive them of the chance to learn to cope.
A very good point was raised earlier that if you tell the kids, "No, you're not allowed to do this," then that could take on a life of its own and undermine the coaches' credibility with the team.
Because even though some on the team probably don't agree with it, they will see how Riley has repeatedly gotten in front of the cameras and gone to bat for his players. I think as a coach you gain more respect by letting him and the other guys make their gesture. And I think you bring that team together when they see how their brother on the team gets attacked and that Riley doesn't join in condemning or attacking them.
Luckily he didn't address his stance on the topic to just PeliniTheCrutch. Thus far you have two posts in this thread. How many more will you have about a topic you appear to not care about?Yep, I posted that his protest was worthless on a message board. Mission accomplished MRI!
Luckily he didn't address his stance on the topic to just PeliniTheCrutch. Thus far you have two posts in this thread. How many more will you have about a topic you appear to not care about?
I don't believe for a second that the protesters at other schools haven't received derogatory messages. I do think it is interesting that he was allowed to get in front of everyone and say what he said, because, as evidenced by your post, a certain percentage of people would think "Nebraska is a terrible place!" However, Riley and Co. being ok with him getting up and saying what he said can also be ammo for Nebraska. We can tell everyone, including minorities, that we are supportive of you speaking up and sharing your concerns to the world, even if / when some of your concerns have to do with this very institution. We won't try to hide from it or suppress it, we will facilitate it.there were more protests by players from Michigan and Michigan State than Neb and I do not see locked threads on their boards and players getting derogatory messages
keep this shit up and our recruiting focus is going to quickly shift to the Dakotas, Wyoming, Montana and western Nebraska. Lots and lots of ammo being provided by our fanbase to other schools located in more diverse areas to question why in the world an African American recruit would go to Nebraska
So I'm clear, you can tell others not to put words into your mouth, but you are the best judge of telling all on here how effective MRI's "protest" will be?Don't put words into my mouth. I do care about the topic. That still doesn't make his "protest" actually accomplish anything for the good of his "cause", whatever that is.
So you admit you do not know what MRI does on his own time about this topic? Is he obligated/required to tell you so that you will feel better about what he's doing?I just want to know what he's doing on his own time to help educate youth about how to change their situation. The people just starting the kneeling now aren't leaders anymore...they are followers. If they are actually DOING something, then I commend those people.
That right there is your example of why people feel the need to demonstrate and to provoke discussion and education on the matter.
You have anything actually thoughtful to contribute? Looks like probably not...Yep, I posted that his protest was worthless on a message board. Mission accomplished MRI!
I have no idea where you get this take on things. He has said nothing about getting any criticism from players. So how is this going to divide the team? I think it's painfully obvious that not allowing this to happen would have divided the team more. If he was passionate about this but was not being allowed to do something about it, that has much more potential to cause trouble. It would have caused him to have negative feelings about Coach Riley and probably the program as a whole. That's what you want? You think that's good? I think Coach Riley has handled it brilliantly-let them have their say without really taking a position on this one way or the other.I think it is becoming painfully obvious that Coach Riley should not have allowed this to happen. Encourage them to find a different venue and be supportive but you are representing the University and the State of Nebraska. It was hard to watch as he has described things that he has endured in his 20 some years as well as what his parents have endured since the game. I hope it doesn't divide the team and certainly don't believe it will quietly go away.
That must be hard for you.A white elderly person was lit on fire, by a group of black males, should our "white players" protest about this? She's now dead. A white guy was just shot & killed last week in Louisville, Nebraska, by a white police officer, should our "white players" protest that?
Why aren't we talking more about the black protester that shot another black protester? Instead, all I hear & read about is "a cop shot an unarmed black male" although there was a gun found with the deceased fingerprints & DNA on it.
Or, should black people also protest the injustice of the two people mentioned above?
I totally agree... Victimhood is a powerful vote getter... Far as I can tell everyone is now a victim... I'd point anyone to Harvard Study on Police shootings... Stats don't lie... The whole thing is a fabrication... Look up the study... Not the media's interpretation of the study.. the actual study,,,A white elderly person was lit on fire, by a group of black males, should our "white players" protest about this? She's now dead. A white guy was just shot & killed last week in Louisville, Nebraska, by a white police officer, should white people protest that?
Why aren't we talking more about the black protester that shot another black protester? Instead, all I hear & read about is "a cop shot an unarmed black male" although there was a gun found with the deceased fingerprints & DNA.
Or, should black people also protest the injustice of the two people mentioned above?