Rivals' rankings, NU top class in the West with only one month with new coach, Iowa still sucks in BB and FB!!

[HBK4life]

2023 All Teams Football Recruiting Team Rankings

2023 all-teams football recruiting team rankings by Rivals.com

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1​		Alabama	27	3	22	1	4	3288
2​		Georgia	26	2	19	5	3.88	3071
3​		Texas	22	2	12	8	3.73	2816
4​		Ohio State	20	2	17	1	4.05	2777
5​		Miami (FL)	25	3	16	6	3.88	2772
6​		LSU	25	1	16	8	3.72	2647
7​		Notre Dame	24	0	18	6	3.75	2601
8​		Oregon	28	2	13	12	3.57	2574
9​		Clemson	26	0	17	9	3.65	2525
10​		Oklahoma	24	1	14	9	3.67	2474
11​		Tennessee	25	1	11	13	3.52	2453
12​		Florida	20	0	18	2	3.9	2381
13​		USC	20	2	7	11	3.55	2365
14​		Texas A&M	18	2	10	6	3.78	2297
15​		Penn State	23	0	13	10	3.57	2269
16​		Auburn	19	0	9	10	3.47	1997
17​		Michigan	23	0	11	11	3.43	1939
18​		Arkansas	20	0	8	11	3.35	1896
19​		TCU	24	0	8	16	3.33	1875
20​		Utah	20	0	8	12	3.4	1868
21​		South Carolina	22	0	7	15	3.32	1814
22​		Mississippi State	25	0	3	20	2.96	1799
23​		Texas Tech	26	0	4	21	3.12	1791
24​		Washington	20	0	4	16	3.2	1760
25​		North Carolina	20	0	7	13	3.35	1750
26​		Baylor	21	0	3	17	3.1	1700
27​		Nebraska	21	0	3	16	2.95	1636
28​		Kansas State	26	0	1	24	3	1582
29​		Florida State	16	1	7	8	3.56	1580
30​		Iowa	21	0	1	19	3	1579
31​		Missouri	19	0	5	13	3.21	1563
32​		Louisville	14	0	8	5	3.5	1524
33​		Minnesota	21	0	1	19	3	1515
34​		West Virginia	20	0	3	16	3.1	1505
35​		Virginia Tech	26	0	2	23	3.04	1500
36​		Kentucky	17	0	7	10	3.41	1480
37​		Michigan State	15	0	7	8	3.47	1479
38​		Iowa State	21	0	1	18	2.95	1475
39​		Illinois	21	0	2	16	2.95	1467
40​		Northwestern	19	0	2	16	3.05	1455
41​		North Carolina State	17	0	4	13	3.24	1448
42​		Wake Forest	20	0	1	15	2.85	1440
43​		Vanderbilt	21	0	0	18	2.86	1410
44​		Colorado	19	0	1	16	2.95	1406
45​		UCLA	14	1	3	10	3.36	1395
46​		Arizona	22	0	2	14	2.82	1386
47​		Maryland	25	0	0	22	2.88	1380
47​		Stanford	17	0	5	10	3.06	1380
49​		Duke	27	0	0	22	2.81	1365
50​		Pittsburgh	19	0	1	17	3	1335
51​		Mississippi	12	0	7	5	3.58	1309
52​		Houston	16	0	2	14	3.13	1260
53​		Georgia Tech	21	0	0	15	2.71	1245
53​		UTSA	20	0	0	15	2.75	1245
55​		Arizona State	18	0	2	14	3	1230
56​		Virginia	19	0	0	16	2.84	1215
57​		UCF	14	0	4	8	3	1201
58​		Oregon State	18	0	1	13	2.83	1200
59​		Wisconsin	14	0	3	11	3.21	1199
	Oklahoma State	17	0	0	14	2.82	1185
	Washington State	22	0	0	14	2.64	1185
62​		Memphis	20	0	0	13	2.65	1155
62​		Rutgers	19	0	0	16	2.84	1155
64​		Boston College	17	0	0	15	2.88	1140
64​		Tulane	20	0	0	11	2.55	1140
66​		Purdue	15	0	1	13	3	1091
67​	Campbell	21	0	0	7	2.33	1035
68​		Temple	24	0	0	6	2.17	1020
69​		Arkansas State	23	0	0	7	2.13	975
69​		Colorado State	25	0	0	4	2.08	975
71​		Army	65	0	0	2	1.91	930
72​		Boise State	19	0	0	6	2.11	915
72​		Cincinnati	11	0	1	10	3.09	915
74​	Liberty	17	0	0	10	2.35	900
74​		Navy	65	0	0	0	1.78	900
76​		Brigham Young	15	0	1	7	2.6	884
77​		Central Michigan	22	0	0	3	1.95	870
77​		Southern Methodist	14	0	0	8	2.57	870
79​		Indiana	12	0	2	9	2.92	855
79​		Kansas	12	0	0	12	3	855
81​		Louisiana	17	0	0	6	2.24	840
82​		Florida Atlantic	17	0	0	7	2.29	810
82​		Miami (OH)	17	0	0	4	2.24	810
84​		Air Force	27	0	0	1	2.04	795
84​		Louisiana Tech	20	0	0	6	1.9	795
84​		San Diego State	17	0	0	7	2.29	795
84​		Syracuse	16	0	0	8	2.25	795
88​		East Carolina	15	0	0	5	2.33	780
88​		Southern Miss	17	0	0	5	2.29	780
90​		Rice	18	0	0	1	2.06	750
91​		Appalachian State	18	0	0	8	2.11	720
92​		California	10	0	0	10	3	705
93​		South Florida	12	0	0	7	2.58	690
93​		Western Michigan	14	0	0	3	2.21	690
95​		Akron	17	0	0	2	2	660
95​		Eastern Michigan	16	0	0	5	2.06	660
97​		Ball State	17	0	0	2	2	615
97​		Georgia Southern	19	0	0	0	1.47	615
99​		Buffalo	17	0	0	4	1.88	600
99​	Sam Houston State	16	0	0	2	1.75	600

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[king_kong_]

hoping this keeps climbing come Feb!

 

[HBK4life]

Wisconsin at 59th? @king_kong_ What happened to your boy Fickell?

 

[HBK4life]

hoping this keeps climbing come Feb!

Cameron will bump us. Ethan too GBR!!

 

[king_kong_]

Wisconsin at 59th? @king_kong_ What happened to your boy Fickell?

we better beat them.

recruiting is only half over. we have seen too many times the reason not to count our chickens after an early lead.

 

[HBK4life]

we better beat them.

recruiting is only half over. we have seen too many times the reason not to count our chickens after an early lead.

I'm just pointing out the great work Matt and staff did in just one month. They walk N and have the top class in the West. Man, Iowa just sucks!!

 

[king_kong_]

I'm just pointing out the great work Matt and staff did in just one month. They walk N and have the top class in the West. Man, Iowa just sucks!!

yep, I agree.

it's nice to have a halftime lead. hopefully he closes out just as strong or stronger going into spring ball.

 

[Harry Caray]

Wisconsin at 59th? @king_kong_ What happened to your boy Fickell?

It's because they only have 14 commits. If you go by average stars per recruit, they are ranked ahead of us.

 

[HBK4life]

NU should win the West every year on and off the field. Recruiting wise. OSU and Michigan will always be the top 2 classes. We should be 3rd or 4th yearly competing with Penn State overall.

 

[HBK4life]

Imagine being an Iowa fan? They lose to the worst NU team in modern history with an interim HC and DC. Then our new coach walks in and in a month beats them for the best class in the West. What a bunch of losers. Am I right @19Football19?

 

[RedCap]

Wisconsin at 59th? @king_kong_ What happened to your boy Fickell?

I read somewhere that Fickell has a different recruiting philosophy this year (maybe ongoing). True or not, according to what I heard he plans to place the emphasis on getting transfers from the portal more than he recruits high schoolers. So I guess we should look at what transfers in he is getting.

Whether that's good or bad strategy for these changing times, I don't know. I'd think you need a balance but I guess we'll see.

 

[RedCap]

Well, as I've said in another thread it's obviously better to ranked high than not. That's a given. BUT I don't put nearly as much emphasis on such a ranking these days as in the past because of the portal and many recruits not sticking around or being poorly developed over their careers. Also, Frost often had high recruiting rankings in the West but what did it ever get us?

It seems to me that Rhule is off to a good start but as I've said before a new coach was hired I've been burned too many times now. I really hope he is a B1G success but I'll need to see the proof on the field of play before I get too excited this time.

 

[BigRedTed]

Not bad at all especially considering the limited amount of time this staff has had. Top of the West and only behind the Big 3 in the East. On a side note I'm a bit surprised UM and PSU are ranked as low as they are.

 

[king_kong_]

Not bad at all especially considering the limited amount of time this staff has had. Top of the West and only behind the Big 3 in the East. On a side note I'm a bit surprised UM and PSU are ranked as low as they are.

I think these rankings are about as relevant as the newspaper industry

(Not at all a knock on our kids or staff)

 

[huntered]

nice for sure. earn us no. 1 in developement and i'll do 3 summersalts across the living room

 

[BigRedTed]

I think these rankings are about as relevant as the newspaper industry

(Not at all a knock on our kids or staff)

Lol true

 

[BoilerN]

Be curious where Purdue is in this list next year.

 

[3fingershomer]

Be curious where Purdue is in this list next year.

So just under half of Illinois ‘23 signed recruits were on defensive side. What is your prediction for Purdue’s allocation for 24? More holes to fill on offense or defense at this point?

 

[TTown Tom]

Well, as I've said in another thread it's obviously better to ranked high than not. That's a given. BUT I don't put nearly as much emphasis on such a ranking these days as in the past because of the portal and many recruits not sticking around or being poorly developed over their careers. Also, Frost often had high recruiting rankings in the West but what did it ever get us?

It seems to me that Rhule is off to a good start but as I've said before a new coach was hired I've been burned too many times now. I really hope he is a B1G success but I'll need to see the proof on the field of play before I get too excited this time.

It may not be better to be more highly ranked. The Rivals formula is that you get points for your best 20 players + bonus points for Rivals 250 players.
Thus if you are like Wisconsin and only offer enough freshman to get 14 players your ranking will be really, really low. However, if you have 14 highly ranked players with an average ranking of 3.21 in their case and then fill that in with a bunch of high ranked portal guys, you are better off than being a Nebraska that has a star ranking of 2.95 (even though we have a higher team ranking because of our 22 recruits) but less spots for people in the portal.

 

[RedCap]

It may not be better to be more highly ranked. The Rivals formula is that you get points for your best 20 players + bonus points for Rivals 250 players.
Thus if you are like Wisconsin and only offer enough freshman to get 14 players your ranking will be really, really low. However, if you have 14 highly ranked players with an average ranking of 3.21 in their case and then fill that in with a bunch of high ranked portal guys, you are better off than being a Nebraska that has a star ranking of 2.95 (even though we have a higher team ranking because of our 22 recruits) but less spots for people in the portal.

People put way too much stock in the rankings IMO. Period. It's good for entertainment value but it's only a sliver of a bigger picture and cannot take into account other important factors (e.g., development potential, fit to the scheme, stickiness in terms of lasting on the roster, mental attitude, etc.).

 

[BoilerN]

So just under half of Illinois ‘23 signed recruits were on defensive side. What is your prediction for Purdue’s allocation for 24? More holes to fill on offense or defense at this point?

That is a tough one. Back 7 needs hit hard for next year and beyond. If the starting DT's from last year come back for a 5th year and no one enters on the dline, they'd have their 3 deep in the dline back. QB is a big question mark next year, but Brady Allen should be really good. Some promising WR's, but you can never have enough in a passing offense. Oline needs depth.
Really, Purdue isn't completely void of Talent, but they need depth and secondary. Maybe a couple studs. Not sure they have that guy next year.

 

[TruHusker]

Seems like we go over this plowed ground every year of highly rated or not, what's the big deal, does it matter, etc. Seems to be a justification in many respects. The body of evidence is pretty strong that the NC winners had higher rated recruiting classes. We can talk all around this situation but until someone breaks the mold, that is how it will stand, like it or not.

 

[scarletred]

Seems like we go over this plowed ground every year of highly rated or not, what's the big deal, does it matter, etc. Seems to be a justification in many respects. The body of evidence is pretty strong that the NC winners had higher rated recruiting classes. We can talk all around this situation but until someone breaks the mold, that is how it will stand, like it or not.

That would be TCU this year if they can win their next two playoff games..

 

[HBK4life]

Cameron will bump us. Ethan too. GBR!!

GBR!!

 

[drubendall]

Pretty nice class from the mildcats.

 

[19Football19]

I'm just pointing out the great work Matt and staff did in just one month. They walk N and have the top class in the West. Man, Iowa just sucks!!

First in the west is kind of like being the tallest midget. We’re still a midget. Nothing against midgets, but you get the point. We have more 5.5 and 5.6 then I can remember in a very long time. If one of the 4* 6.0 doesn’t make it we’re too 40.

 

[mjhill]

I read somewhere that Fickell has a different recruiting philosophy this year (maybe ongoing). True or not, according to what I heard he plans to place the emphasis on getting transfers from the portal more than he recruits high schoolers. So I guess we should look at what transfers in he is getting.

Whether that's good or bad strategy for these changing times, I don't know. I'd think you need a balance but I guess we'll see.

This is completely opposite of what he's stated. He has said numerous times lately that he doesn't love the portal and would rather recruit players that will fit his culture and stay in the system for 3, 4, or 5 years.

That being said, he may need to use the portal a little more this year than others going forward to pick up the slack that Chryst had become complacent on.

 

[bigboxes]

First in the west is kind of like being the tallest midget. We’re still a midget. Nothing against midgets, but you get the point. We have more 5.5 and 5.6 then I can remember in a very long time. If one of the 4* 6.0 doesn’t make it we’re too 40.

There's the negativity! Was missing you in this positive thread.

 

[dinglefritz]

Seems like we go over this plowed ground every year of highly rated or not, what's the big deal, does it matter, etc. Seems to be a justification in many respects. The body of evidence is pretty strong that the NC winners had higher rated recruiting classes. We can talk all around this situation but until someone breaks the mold, that is how it will stand, like it or not.

Absolutely if you want to compete at elite levels you have to recruit at an elite level. It sounds like our class rank is going to get a bump if Lenhardt does in fact sign. When you add in Sims, Juedy and Scott this is an impressive first class in a very short window. Then if you can develop those freshmen you’ve got something. IMO if you want to field teams that compete for BIG championships you probably need to land in the top 15 in the recruiting rankings

 

[z28craz]

Well, as I've said in another thread it's obviously better to ranked high than not. That's a given. BUT I don't put nearly as much emphasis on such a ranking these days as in the past because of the portal and many recruits not sticking around or being poorly developed over their careers. Also, Frost often had high recruiting rankings in the West but what did it ever get us?

It seems to me that Rhule is off to a good start but as I've said before a new coach was hired I've been burned too many times now. I really hope he is a B1G success but I'll need to see the proof on the field of play before I get too excited this time.

I don’t know how true it is, but it seems possible. But I saw a stat that said over the past 4 years Alabama recruited 100 players. Of those 100, 42 have entered the transfer portal. Again, I have not idea if that’s true or not, but based on the numbers in the portal this year it seems not only possible, but plausible. The point being, I’m really not sure what the point of recruiting rankings are anymore. I think in this time of college football it’s likely that 40%-50% of a given class will transfer or wash out without making any meaningful contribution and that’s probably on the conservative end. If we’re being realistic it’s likely less than 60%-70% of a given class will actually stay and contribute for 4-5 years. While it’s fun to watch, recruiting rankings mean very little in the age of the transfer portal.

 

[dinglefritz]

I don’t know how true it is, but it seems possible. But I saw a stat that said over the past 4 years Alabama recruited 100 players. Of those 100, 42 have entered the transfer portal. Again, I have not idea if that’s true or not, but based on the numbers in the portal this year it seems not only possible, but plausible. The point being, I’m really not sure what the point of recruiting rankings are anymore. I think in this time of college football it’s likely that 40%-50% of a given class will transfer or wash out without making any meaningful contribution and that’s probably on the conservative end. If we’re being realistic it’s likely less than 60%-70% of a given class will actually stay and contribute for 4-5 years. While it’s fun to watch, recruiting rankings mean very little in the age of the transfer portal.

I would guess though the rankings still have quite a bit of value when you consider that the number of 4 and 5 star kids Bama has left in their 2 deep is still pretty high. They keep recruiting those kind of players and when some very talented kids can’t get on the field they go somewhere they can. IMO that phenomena I imagine might actually level the field a bit for the rest of us. Average star ranking of your entire 3 deep would be an interesting study. I suspect top teams would fair very well in that.

 

[konaki]

I have a strong suspicion Nebraska will be hauling in top 15 classes in the near future and many of the kids in Rhules program will go on to play pro ball. jmo

 

[HBK4life]

Imagine being an Iowa fan? They lose to the worst NU team in modern history with an interim HC and DC. Then our new coach walks in and in a month beats them for the best class in the West. What a bunch of losers. Am I right @19Football19?

And now we beat them in basketball!! What a gaggle of losers!! GBR!!

 

[HBK4life]

Iowa fans