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NIL decision publicly humiliated the NCAA and they are basically powerless. The SEC is building an elite conference and will break away from the NCAA. They will have all of the best inventory under their self governing flag, which will provide all of the best payment opportunities for their kids and very large checks to the members. And when the SEC gets enough members, they will have their own league that is modeled after the NFL.
If the B1G expands it will still be even number of teams not a odd number regardless if they add KU and ISU or they look to the west..This will eventually happen. I suspect it will end up as 7 schools, with 3 pods of 7 schools.
this should surprise nobody
This means that there is still time for Warren to start filling his pants with the additions of Texas and Notre Dame. If he could do that I would be extremely impressed and would change my mind as to his abilities to elevate the conference. The B1G might not have to raid the PAC at all with those two additions, the best of the PAC would see the light coming at them in the tunnel and would seek membership into the B1G on their own I would expect.
If the ACC could snag Penn State and Notre Dame next go around and the SEC gets Texas and Oklahoma then the B1G HAS TO raid the PAC in order to keep it's head above the big boy table top.
Or the B1G could seek the interest of USC, UCLA, KU, CU, Oregon, and Stanford. But so far in all the conference shakedowns I've not seen a situation where the conference seeks others to join save for Notre Dame. It has always been outsiders requesting admittance.
The SEC doesn't need Texas, but the B1G could really use that school in my opinion. Regardless of the perception many on here have of their ability to poison the well. At this point in the direction we all know collegiate football is going , conferences really won't matter much in the end game. Texas is a Flagship AAU blueblood that happens to have the 2nd best recruiting territory for football in the country. I would argue getting Texas would be a better addition than Notre Dame speaking from 1000000 miles up.
If I were in the B1G leadership structure I would be active in seeking outside schools at this juncture. I would sweeten the deal for the incoming targets. I would offer Texas, Notre Dame, USC, UCLA, KU, and Stanford. In these you have 2 of the top 3 recruiting territories in the country, an almost Ivy league addition in Stanford, 2 flagship universities, ALL of them are AAU, excellent basketball addition in Kansas, and the playing-hard-to-get crown jewel it seems for the B1G in Notre Dame.
wouldn't the arguably best overall conference have to, I don't know, occasionally actually win a championship in any sport to carry that mantle?The Big10 is just fine.
Regardless of what anybody says, it is still the 2nd best football conference in the country and arguably best overall conference with all sports included.
Texas and OU moving to the SEC is a monumental move in college sports, but the B1G still has its power. Talk is of the SEC and B10 raiding other conferences for more teams, not the other way around.
Time to let the dust settle and see how this all shakes out.
I think the B1G and SEC are fighting for the honor of their respective conferences being the ones that make it across the finish line intact and not raided when crossing the threshold of college football development of a new condensed league with an official national champion decided by playoff that garners all the eyes that matter.The Big10 is just fine.
Regardless of what anybody says, it is still the 2nd best football conference in the country and arguably best overall conference with all sports included.
Texas and OU moving to the SEC is a monumental move in college sports, but the B1G still has its power. Talk is of the SEC and B10 raiding other conferences for more teams, not the other way around.
Time to let the dust settle and see how this all shakes out.
wouldn't the arguably best overall conference have to, I don't know, occasionally actually win a championship in any sport to carry that mantle?
OU won the softball CWS like 2 months ago.Wrestling is pretty good, so is hockey.
Won a natty in college football 7 years ago.
What has Texas and OU won this millennium?
Team | Academic Year | Sport |
---|---|---|
Illinois | 2011–12 | Men's Gymnastics |
Indiana | 2012–13 | Men's Soccer |
Iowa | 2020–21 | Wrestling |
Maryland | 2018–19 | Women's Lacrosse |
Michigan | 2020–21 | Women's Gymnastics |
Michigan State | 2014–15 | Women's Cross Country |
Minnesota | 2015–16 | Women's Ice Hockey |
Nebraska | 2020–21 | Women's Bowling |
Northwestern | 2011–12 | Women's Lacrosse |
Ohio State | 2016–17 | Men's Volleyball |
Penn State | 2018–19 | Wrestling |
Purdue | 2009–10 | Women's Golf |
Rutgers* | 1948–49 | Men's Fencing (tie) |
Wisconsin | 2020–21 | Women's Ice Hockey |
OU won the softball CWS like 2 months ago.
UT is a swimming dynasty our volleyball program would be jealous of.
if we're talking conferences, Baylor just won the hoops title in April.
b1g list of most recent national titles is so hilariously b1g it hurts:
Team Academic Year Sport Illinois 2011–12 Men's Gymnastics Indiana 2012–13 Men's Soccer Iowa 2020–21 Wrestling Maryland 2018–19 Women's Lacrosse Michigan 2020–21 Women's Gymnastics Michigan State 2014–15 Women's Cross Country Minnesota 2015–16 Women's Ice Hockey Nebraska 2020–21 Women's Bowling Northwestern 2011–12 Women's Lacrosse Ohio State 2016–17 Men's Volleyball Penn State 2018–19 Wrestling Purdue 2009–10 Women's Golf Rutgers* 1948–49 Men's Fencing (tie) Wisconsin 2020–21 Women's Ice Hockey
Would love to see that 4 team pac 12 move except we c block Colorado for someone else!
Would love to see that 4 team pac 12 move except we c block Colorado for someone else!
as opposed to ours, which touts literally everything except on-field success as reason why its 'best'Such an awesome conference that their 2 flagship programs just left. You know, the 2 that actually win stuff.
as opposed to ours, which touts literally everything except on-field success as reason why its 'best'
the b1g conference: so prestigious, even defunct conferences accomplish more!
I have zero hate for Nebraska, my birthplace, childhood home and alma mater.Your hate for the Big10 and Nebraska runs deep.
Try to smile more and enjoy a bit of life.
Wasn’t the original comparison between the Big Ten and SEC? How’d the big 12 even get involved?as opposed to ours, which touts literally everything except on-field success as reason why its 'best'
the b1g conference: so prestigious, even defunct conferences accomplish more!
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Okie Dokie, Sunshine!Ok but I was not addressing the conference, I was talking to Nebraska Cornhusker fans who would rather see the likes of Notre Dame or Clemson join the conference. It seems weird for fans to side with conference interest when it would have a direct negative impact on the athletic department.
Meh. Rob always gets his panties in a bunch for lesser. He's probably stress eating and plowing Eddys.
At least we now know it is not true
Notre dame only has prestige in the midwest plus no one under 60 even cares about the mystique of the Irish. doubt many people in the south even know where Notre DAme is.
Man, Trevor needs to be talking to Gene Smith.
another reason that makes Notre Dame unlikely to be sought after for realignment is the tv contract with NBC that expires in 2025. I know a lot of older Notre dame fans are retirees and such but not much younger. It's a declining brand and program who has screwed up by remaining independent. IMOThis is....not true. Notre Dame has the largest national following of any college football program. They have their own national TV contract. They are the most popular program in 2 of the 3 largest U.S. cities (Chicago and New York City). A lot of Catholic boomers who have retired to the South still care about them quite a bit.
Folks haven’t been paying attention. ND has a storied history, but the current generations are wanting to erase history. As religion is being slowly stripped away by the woke crowd, so are historical connectionsanother reason that makes Notre Dame unlikely to be sought after for realignment is the tv contract with NBC that expires in 2025. I know a lot of older Notre dame fans are retirees and such but not much younger. It's a declining brand and program who has screwed up by remaining independent. IMO
SEC + Oklahoma, TexasWhy is Kansas even attractive for the b10? Their semi-relevant basketball team? Does that even compare to the futility of their Football team? Doesn’t football trump all?
good question. maybe b1g share + separate tv contract with nbc...?Would the B1G offer ND more than an equal share to lure them in?