Raridon at center, Wilson at guard

[coachDubs]

Per coach Cav today, that's how the two will begin spring practices. IMO, great for the line as I see Raridon as a 4-year starter and that's a heck of an anchor. Wilson isn't too shabby either, fully expect him to be a swing guy at both guards spots.

2017 & 2018 projection (my speculation)
LT Gates
LG Foster
C Raridon
RG Farmer or Wilson
RT Conrad or Farniok

I understand as it looks right now our 2018 schedule is filthy but look above as that's a lot of experience with the pipeline. Add in the DL experience and we'll have some damn good trenches to take that season on.

Slowly, but surely, we're stocking up the needed talent in the trenches. It's now up to Cav to get them to perform as I have zero worries about Parrella...

 

[HuskerLLM]

Good post...i might add that a healthy Decker will be a nice addition inside...Barnett has great talent but has trouble with motivation (can the light click on?)...RT scares the living daylights out of me.

 

[TwinsRRUs]

There is always a player that doesn't reach his potential in each position group.

IYO, who is the most likely player on the OL that looks promising but will not reach his potential?

 

[Pennsyhusker]

Good post...i might add that a healthy Decker will be a nice addition inside...Barnett has great talent but has trouble with motivation (can the light click on?)...RT scares the living daylights out of me.

I find it odd that Decker hardly ever gets mentioned by the coaches. Or does he and I just missed it? Adam Carriker was high on the kid at the beginning of the year on his podcast. Said he should have started over Utter. But now Cav has Raridon penciled in at center already without even a mention of Decker. I understand that Raridon might be the better player and probably is. But I just find it odd that Decker isn't even mentioned as a quality backup or anything....

What gives?

 

[dinglefritz]

I find it odd that Decker hardly ever gets mentioned by the coaches. Or does he and I just missed it? Adam Carriker was high on the kid at the beginning of the year on his podcast. Said he should have started over Utter. But now Cav has Raridon penciled in at center already without even a mention of Decker. I understand that Raridon might be the better player and probably is. But I just find it odd that Decker isn't even mentioned as a quality backup or anything....

What gives?

He mentioned him quite a bit during last season. Sometimes when you're dealing with that many names you just plain forget to mention everyone. That said, I think Raridon may be talented to the point where IF he starts and stays healthy, Decker may be playing a lot of guard. The spot I'm probably most concerned with is LT. Gates didn't prove much to me last year in pass pro and I was hoping that Farniok would challenge him there. That doesn't sound like the case so IF he would get hurt that could be a weak spot.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

He mentioned him quite a bit during last season. Sometimes when you're dealing with that many names you just plain forget to mention everyone. That said, I think Raridon may be talented to the point where IF he starts and stays healthy, Decker may be playing a lot of guard. The spot I'm probably most concerned with is LT. Gates didn't prove much to me last year in pass pro and I was hoping that Farniok would challenge him there. That doesn't sound like the case so IF he would get hurt that could be a weak spot.

Thanks. I was hoping it was just me missing something. Decker has a great frame for offensive line. I think he will add quality depth.

For some reason I am not worried about Gates. I think he was playing hurt for most of the last games. I think both he and Farniok will be better this year.

This is a big year for coach Cav. His line was not that good last year. Now he has depth and talent, and with Utter gone, addition by subtraction. Time to step it up.

 

[Dean Pope]

Good post...i might add that a healthy Decker will be a nice addition inside...Barnett has great talent but has trouble with motivation (can the light click on?)...RT scares the living daylights out of me.

If Cav believed in playing more than five guys in a season barring injury, then we would see a huge increase in motivation for those who aren't the chosen ones.

 

[dinglefritz]

If Cav believed in playing more than five guys in a season barring injury, then we would see a huge increase in motivation for those who aren't the chosen ones.

Your opinion. I've heard multiple former Pipeline members say that sticking with the starting 5 was best for creating chemistry and consistent line play. Personally I would prefer we played more guys to build depth but I understand and don't completely disagree with Cav's philosophy. Cav did a helluva job last season IMO of patching things together.

 

[Dean Pope]

Your opinion. I've heard multiple former Pipeline members say that sticking with the starting 5 was best for creating chemistry and consistent line play. Personally I would prefer we played more guys to build depth but I understand and don't completely disagree with Cav's philosophy. Cav did a helluva job last season IMO of patching things together.

Still waiting for that consistency and chemistry. That works well when your top five are studs and head & shoulders above everyone else. But what about when a kid gets banged up? Gets complacent from no competition for his spot? And anyone who's played college athletics knows that eventually most backups do not work very hard when they know they don't have a chance to play.

 

[Pennsyhusker]

I have no issue with playing your best five. What people forget about the pipeline days is this: backups got tons of playing time because there were so many blowouts. It is a myth that Tenopir was constantly rotating guys in and out. Go back and watch our classic games against really good teams. The ones where the game was close or we lost. You will see the same five guys in there for almost the whole game. Our final two drives against Miami in the 95 Orange Bowl certainly did not have our backups in.

 

[dinglefritz]

Still waiting for that consistency and chemistry. That works well when your top five are studs and head & shoulders above everyone else. But what about when a kid gets banged up? Gets complacent from no competition for his spot? And anyone who's played college athletics knows that eventually most backups do not work very hard when they know they don't have a chance to play.

Considering that we started 3 walk ons a good share of the season last year, I think your argument doesn't hold water. IF you can't motivate yourself to try to earn the playing time then maybe you shouldn't be there.

I have no issue with playing your best five. What people forget about the pipeline days is this: backups got tons of playing time because there were so many blowouts. It is a myth that Tenopir was constantly rotating guys in and out. Go back and watch our classic games against really good teams. The ones where the game was close or we lost. You will see the same five guys in there for almost the whole game. Our final two drives against Miami in the 95 Orange Bowl certainly did not have our backups in.

Exactly

 

[Cornicator]

Per coach Cav today, that's how the two will begin spring practices. IMO, great for the line as I see Raridon as a 4-year starter and that's a heck of an anchor. Wilson isn't too shabby either, fully expect him to be a swing guy at both guards spots.

2017 & 2018 projection (my speculation)
LT Gates
LG Foster
C Raridon
RG Farmer or Wilson
RT Conrad or Farniok

I understand as it looks right now our 2018 schedule is filthy but look above as that's a lot of experience with the pipeline. Add in the DL experience and we'll have some damn good trenches to take that season on.

Slowly, but surely, we're stocking up the needed talent in the trenches. It's now up to Cav to get them to perform as I have zero worries about Parrella...

You people who keep thinking Farmer is going to lose a starting spot at Guard are rustling my jimmies. He is the highest rated NFL prospect returning on the Husker offense. His spot is even more secure than Gates. Wilson will push Foster before Farmer.

 

[headcard]

I believe Cav has also said there was quite a bit of separation between the first and second team OL. If he has three (or four) OG that he really likes, I bet he would be alot more willing to rotate. On a side note, I would really like to see Farniok make a big move at RT this off season.

 

[scarletred]

Nice to see we are finally adding depth now it's Coach Cav's job is to developed the depth, I haven't been as impressed with Coach Cav's devolpoment of the offensive tackle position other than Gates we have been brutal at that spot.

Be interesting to see how the young redshirt Freshman contribute with the veterans we have coming back.
Love having Raridon playing center been a while since we have had a difference maker at center in quite some time.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

I believe Cav has also said there was quite a bit of separation between the first and second team OL. If he has three (or four) OG that he really likes, I bet he would be alot more willing to rotate. On a side note, I would really like to see Farniok make a big move at RT this off season.

Yeah he can say that, but then when the 2nd team RT comes in and outperforms the starter like last year, I start to worry about his ability to evaluate.

 

[headcard]

Yeah he can say that, but then when the 2nd team RT comes in and outperforms the starter like last year, I start to worry about his ability to evaluate.

That's a fair point, also happened the year before with Sterup.

 

[GretnaShawn]

Nice to see we are finally adding depth now it's Coach Cav's job is to developed the depth, I haven't been as impressed with Coach Cav's devolpoment of the offensive tackle position other than Gates we have been brutal at that spot.

Be interesting to see how the young redshirt Freshman contribute with the veterans we have coming back.
Love having Raridon playing center been a while since we have had a difference maker at center in quite some time.

It has been over ten years, unless I am forgetting somebody. The center position has been a real weak spot for a very long time.

 

[charger78]

Per coach Cav today, that's how the two will begin spring practices. IMO, great for the line as I see Raridon as a 4-year starter and that's a heck of an anchor. Wilson isn't too shabby either, fully expect him to be a swing guy at both guards spots.

2017 & 2018 projection (my speculation)
LT Gates
LG Foster
C Raridon
RG Farmer or Wilson
RT Conrad or Farniok

I understand as it looks right now our 2018 schedule is filthy but look above as that's a lot of experience with the pipeline. Add in the DL experience and we'll have some damn good trenches to take that season on.

Slowly, but surely, we're stocking up the needed talent in the trenches. It's now up to Cav to get them to perform as I have zero worries about Parrella...

Couldn't agree more and my biggest hope/wish coming out of spring is Farniok solidifying the RT spot hands down, no question. It would be a surprise, but that's my #1 "wish". As coach stated, Lineman are Gold.

 

[HuskerLLM]

Yeah he can say that, but then when the 2nd team RT comes in and outperforms the starter like last year, I start to worry about his ability to evaluate.

While I don't think Knevel has the "it" factor, he was severely limited with a high ankle last season.

 

[WestCoastCornhusker2]

Per coach Cav today, that's how the two will begin spring practices. IMO, great for the line as I see Raridon as a 4-year starter and that's a heck of an anchor. Wilson isn't too shabby either, fully expect him to be a swing guy at both guards spots.

2017 & 2018 projection (my speculation)
LT Gates
LG Foster
C Raridon
RG Farmer or Wilson
RT Conrad or Farniok

I understand as it looks right now our 2018 schedule is filthy but look above as that's a lot of experience with the pipeline. Add in the DL experience and we'll have some damn good trenches to take that season on.

Slowly, but surely, we're stocking up the needed talent in the trenches. It's now up to Cav to get them to perform as I have zero worries about Parrella...

Derek Barnett exposed our OTs, made them look slow and a step behind. You can't really teach or improve quickness much, this has me concerned still. Maybe they were coached poorly as they got off the snap with some hesitation and didn't know exactly where there man was.

 

[93sker]

Derek Barnett exposed our OTs, made them look slow and a step behind. You can't really teach or improve quickness much, this has me concerned still. Maybe they were coached poorly as they got off the snap with some hesitation and didn't know exactly where there man was.

Derek Barnett made most everybody's OT's look slow and a step behind last year.......

 

[coachDubs]

You people who keep thinking Farmer is going to lose a starting spot at Guard are rustling my jimmies. He is the highest rated NFL prospect returning on the Husker offense. His spot is even more secure than Gates. Wilson will push Foster before Farmer.

Slow your roll, you're the same dude that makes ridiculous comparisons between studs elsewhere to duds in Lincoln. I have a very high opinion of Wilson, going back to when we started recruiting him and Farmer didn't do anything in 2016 to lock down a starting spot going forward. Regardless of that, your player predictions aren't very good, but at least you're consistently bad. Foster and Gates have way more potential than Farmer for the next level.

Our left side is locked down, and that isn't changing.

 

[jeans15]

We have to upgrade Conrad. I don't care what anyone says
..it wasn't just Barnett either.

 

[inWV]

Yeah he can say that, but then when the 2nd team RT comes in and outperforms the starter like last year, I start to worry about his ability to evaluate.

I assume you are talking about Knevel vs. Conrad. It's quite possible that the fourth year player is ahead of the third year player at the front of the season, gets injured, the younger guy continues to get better and outplays the injured starter. Is that a possible scenario? Or is Cav just a dummy?

 

[OO Snipes]

T

Derek Barnett made most everybody's OT's look slow and a step behind last year.......

True, plus Gates doesn't get to practice against speed like that. Gates is still our best lineman just had a rough game

 

[headcard]

T

True, plus Gates doesn't get to practice against speed like that. Gates is still our best lineman just had a rough game

Gates is a stud. He really doesn't deserve all the flack he gets here, he was playing hurt the later part of the year when he struggled.

 

[PeliniTheCrutch]

I assume you are talking about Knevel vs. Conrad. It's quite possible that the fourth year player is ahead of the third year player at the front of the season, gets injured, the younger guy continues to get better and outplays the injured starter. Is that a possible scenario? Or is Cav just a dummy?

Both are entirely possible, though I would say too stubborn before sayin dummy.

 

[Sooner_or_Later]

Good post...i might add that a healthy Decker will be a nice addition inside...Barnett has great talent but has trouble with motivation (can the light click on?)...RT scares the living daylights out of me.

Both OT spots scare the hell out of me considering what we saw of Gates last season. All spots along the OL should be open this off season with what we saw last season.

 

[Husker Sledge]

Bigger, stronger, faster! Pretty simple. We have the right training staff in place guided by the best in the biz. Guys up front just need to dedicate themselves to getting it done. Gotta patch this leak in the pipeline!

 

[AFTray]

Slow your roll, you're the same dude that makes ridiculous comparisons between studs elsewhere to duds in Lincoln. I have a very high opinion of Wilson, going back to when we started recruiting him and Farmer didn't do anything in 2016 to lock down a starting spot going forward. Regardless of that, your player predictions aren't very good, but at least you're consistently bad. Foster and Gates have way more potential than Farmer for the next level.

Our left side is locked down, and that isn't changing.

Guess you must be more of an expert on NFL potential than the experts on NFL Draft Scout. Farmer ranked #15 OG and Gates #16. http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=130749&draftyear=2019&genpos=OG Pro Football Focus must not have any real experts either since they named Farmer a Second Team All Big Ten OG this year and didn't name any other Husker Lineman.

 

[coachDubs]

Guess you must be more of an expert on NFL potential than the experts on NFL Draft Scout. Farmer ranked #15 OG and Gates #16. http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=130749&draftyear=2019&genpos=OG

Nah, I just heard it directly from 3 NFL scouts during bowl game prep in Lincoln. 2 believe Gates is an NFL center. Farmer struggled all season to get to the second level, that ain't gonna work at the next level.

Thread bookmarked for future reference.

 

[frankluv]

Decker would be a good to great guard.

 

[blfarmer73]

Nah, I just heard it directly from 3 NFL scouts during bowl game prep in Lincoln. 2 believe Gates is an NFL center. Farmer struggled all season to get to the second level, that ain't gonna work at the next level.

Thread bookmarked for future reference.

I know I shouldn't feed the dumb ass,,,The three NFL scouts you mention from your dreams, along with analysis of the o-line talent is somewhat telling about you and how you evaluate talent. Tanner, barring something unforeseen, "WILL" be the starter next year. IMO Mr. Gates will be the left tackle after a year of learning the position and battling through injury. Jerald will be the LG and also be better with some game time under his belt as well. Center is a different deal all together. IMO Mr. Raridon has the most potential, and will be the center of the future. What I do not know yet is if he can put on enough good weight to be the man this next year. It would not surprise me to see Mr. Johnson there if he does not, or Mr. Decker if he puts in the work. Tanner will be the RG. The year of experience and another year under coach cav will help them all. Mr. Wilson is going to be a more than capable guard himself, but I would remind all the ass-hats who know better than everyone else, he will be a red shirt FRESHMAN. He will be IMO the first one behind the starters. The left tackle spot is the spot I don't have a clue who will emerge. Mr. Farniok has great potential and WILL be a great tackle at some point. Is it when he is a red shirt freshman? Or will he benefit from another year? Time will tell who has put in the work,and will emerge this spring and fall.
It is easy for little men to sit anomalously behind a screen and act like they "KNOW" everything. I do not know for sure how these things will work. What I do know for sure though, is NOBODY will outwork Tanner. He shows that with what he does. Not just blowing hot air. FWIW, Everyone knows who I am.

 

[kaz36]

I find it odd that Decker hardly ever gets mentioned by the coaches. Or does he and I just missed it? Adam Carriker was high on the kid at the beginning of the year on his podcast. Said he should have started over Utter. But now Cav has Raridon penciled in at center already without even a mention of Decker. I understand that Raridon might be the better player and probably is. But I just find it odd that Decker isn't even mentioned as a quality backup or anything....

What gives?

I thought I heard Decker got a concussion during the summer and didn't recover well from it and it put him behind. As far as Raridon being penciled in at center, I don't think he is penciled in by Cav yet, just that is where he will play for now. He may very well end up winning the spot.

 

[coachDubs]

I know I shouldn't feed the dumb ass,,,The three NFL scouts you mention from your dreams, along with analysis of the o-line talent is somewhat telling about you and how you evaluate talent. Tanner, barring something unforeseen, "WILL" be the starter next year. IMO Mr. Gates will be the left tackle after a year of learning the position and battling through injury. Jerald will be the LG and also be better with some game time under his belt as well. Center is a different deal all together. IMO Mr. Raridon has the most potential, and will be the center of the future. What I do not know yet is if he can put on enough good weight to be the man this next year. It would not surprise me to see Mr. Johnson there if he does not, or Mr. Decker if he puts in the work. Tanner will be the RG. The year of experience and another year under coach cav will help them all. Mr. Wilson is going to be a more than capable guard himself, but I would remind all the ass-hats who know better than everyone else, he will be a red shirt FRESHMAN. He will be IMO the first one behind the starters. The left tackle spot is the spot I don't have a clue who will emerge. Mr. Farniok has great potential and WILL be a great tackle at some point. Is it when he is a red shirt freshman? Or will he benefit from another year? Time will tell who has put in the work,and will emerge this spring and fall.
It is easy for little men to sit anomalously behind a screen and act like they "KNOW" everything. I do not know for sure how these things will work. What I do know for sure though, is NOBODY will outwork Tanner. He shows that with what he does. Not just blowing hot air. FWIW, Everyone knows who I am.

First off, calling someone a "dumb ass" and following it up with 4th grade grammar errors throughout their response says more about you than me.

Brian, you shouldn't call any fan a dumbass but if that's what you want to do, it's up to you. I won't back down from my stance and who I've heard what from. I have a very long history on here, one with tremendous accuracy. I also called a spade a spade with your son when he had a shitty attitude only to turn it around where he was given props for doing so. Matter of fact, you even posted in that thread on RSS backing up what I already stated.

Funny thing about you calling me a dumbass, then turn around and agree with me about 4 of 5 of the OL positions with your son the one I question. Decker doesn't have a work ethic issue, he's battled severe issues upstairs which has nothing to do with "putting in work". If you're gonna come at me, have your t's crossed and i's dotted.

You "don't know how things will work" but earlier said Tanner "WILL" start. This "dumb ass" finds that hilarious.

 

[otismotis08]

I really don't care who starts next year. There are several guys with potential, but the eyeball test tells me that they all need to spend the offseason in S&C. Spend quality time with Boyd. Become gym rats. Rebuilding the pipeline starts from within. Then come ready to work on their skills and technique in the spring.

 

[AFTray]

Nah, I just heard it directly from 3 NFL scouts during bowl game prep in Lincoln. 2 believe Gates is an NFL center. Farmer struggled all season to get to the second level, that ain't gonna work at the next level.

Thread bookmarked for future reference.

Are you saying that Pro Football Focus and NFL Draft Scout are not legitimate sources of talent assessment? If so, I am going to "bookmark" your post for future reference. I'm kidding. I won't actually do that since I am not a child.

 

[coachDubs]

Are you saying that Pro Football Focus and NFL Draft Scout are not legitimate sources of talent assessment? If so, I am going to "bookmark" your post for future reference. I'm kidding. I won't actually do that since I am not a child.

That isn't what I stated nor did I hint at it. Matter of fact, the word "Nah" is the first word used in my response to your question.

No worries, I will, it's what a "dumb ass" does.

 

[GretnaShawn]

First off, calling someone a "dumb ass" and following it up with 4th grade grammar errors throughout their response says more about you than me.

Brian, you shouldn't call any fan a dumbass but if that's what you want to do, it's up to you. I won't back down from my stance and who I've heard what from. I have a very long history on here, one with tremendous accuracy. I also called a spade a spade with your son when he had a shitty attitude only to turn it around where he was given props for doing so. Matter of fact, you even posted in that thread on RSS backing up what I already stated.

Funny thing about you calling me a dumbass, then turn around and agree with me about 4 of 5 of the OL positions with your son the one I question. Decker doesn't have a work ethic issue, he's battled severe issues upstairs which has nothing to do with "putting in work". If you're gonna come at me, have your t's crossed and i's dotted.

You "don't know how things will work" but earlier said Tanner "WILL" start. This "dumb ass" finds that hilarious.

 

[inWV]

If I had to bet 100 bucks that barring injury Farmer and Foster start at Guard vs someone else, my $$ are on the returning starters.