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OT: Will there be another Covid lockdown?

Will there be another lockdown?

  • Yes Everywhere on orders from Biden/Fauci

    Votes: 33 17.4%
  • Only in Blue States/cities

    Votes: 61 32.1%
  • In states/cities that decide they want to

    Votes: 54 28.4%
  • No

    Votes: 32 16.8%
  • F*ck No, Never again! I'd rather watch NU, WI B1G championship game.

    Votes: 18 9.5%

  • Total voters
    190
What does Dr. Mark Klein, Physician-in-Chief at Children's Hospital and a Professor of Pediatrics at LSUHSC and Tulane stand to gain to fear monger and pedal panic porn?

I see this comment a lot and I have a hard time understanding how any Dr that shares concern is just fear mongering.

It's not a surprise. Everyone takes turn eating their own. Noem is taking all kinds of fire nationally from grassroots folks who were championing her as the second coming because of her covid performance. People care about outcomes not ideology. And right now the only acceptable outcome for some is I don't wanna.
 
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Not being sick for a year is not immunosuppressed. There are adults who goes for years without being sick and when they finally catch a flu or whatever they aren't at higher risk of severe complications or death.

You just responded to something I didn’t say. It has nothing to do with wether you get sick or not. Not being exposed to germs regularly makes you immunosuppressed. Here’s a link:

 
You just responded to something I didn’t say. It has nothing to do with wether you get sick or not. Not being exposed to germs regularly makes you immunosuppressed. Here’s a link:

My kids in Maryland were home basically all last year for school.

Kids in red states were not. They've been fighting germs daily since last August. There are probably a myriad of reasons Southern kids are being affected now, but not having been exposed to society is not one of them. They've been roaming free for a year now.

The immunosuppressed theory is a year out of style as far as early opening states are concerned.
 
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Feels like certain people are being scapegoated for the continued problems to me....and wouldn't you know it isn't the minorities, who just happen to make up the largest percentage of the un-vaxxed, or all the un-invited foreign visitors coming in by the tens of thousands...nope.
 
I don't think there will be another lockdown getting back to the poll. I think alot of businesses will have vaccine mandates eventually and in the near term are fairly well positioned to have people continue to work from home at least part time.

I think the near term emphasis will be on keeping density of people down so that we don't get into a lockdown situation either locally or nationally. I could see an air travel ban as part of that which might make it hard to have a real football season. I could see some places going back to take out only, or bringing in employees in shifts, etc for density.
 
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My kids in Maryland were home basically all last year for school.

Kids in red states were not. They've been fighting germs daily since last August. There are probably a myriad of reasons Southern kids are being affected now, but not having been exposed to society is not one of them. They've been roaming free for a year now.

Wrong. Kids in red states were on heavily adjusted school schedules as well. Ranging from short days to barely any in-person days during the week. It’s not like they were basically encouraged to beat off with hand sanitizer either right? Masks all day, including during gym class. Such a disgrace.

I see what the goal is now though with the delta variant. They’ve been pushing to vaccinate children younger and younger but there was no reason. What perfect timing the delta variant is, from a scientifically engineered virus, no less. Oh and would ya look at that? It’s even harming our children now?? 😮 Amazing how it will all perfectly work out for the sheeple calling for every human to be vaccinated.
 
Wrong. Kids in red states were on heavily adjusted school schedules as well. Ranging from short days to barely any in-person days during the week. It’s not like they were basically encouraged to beat off with hand sanitizer either right? Masks all day, including during gym class. Such a disgrace.

I see what the goal is now though with the delta variant. They’ve been pushing to vaccinate children younger and younger but there was no reason. What perfect timing the delta variant is, from a scientifically engineered virus, no less. Oh and would ya look at that? It’s even harming our children now?? 😮 Amazing how it will all perfectly work out for the sheeple calling for every human to be vaccinated.

It doesn't take much time to stimulate the immune system. Walking into a room where someone just sneezed doesnt take long. A kid who is sitting in a classroom even a single day a week for half a day or whatever is going to be exposed to a host of stimulus that a kid sitting at home never would be.

Its not like your immune system only goes to work after you've put in so many classroom hours by the end of the week.

Which I get it, you wanted normal school and you got some modified school. But that irrelevant from an immuno stimulus perspective. Southern kids have been all kinds of sneezed, coughed, and muddied up in the last year.
 
It doesn't take much time to stimulate the immune system. Walking into a room where someone just sneezed doesnt take long. A kid who is sitting in a classroom even a single day a week for half a day or whatever is going to be exposed to a host of stimulus that a kid sitting at home never would be.

Its not like your immune system only goes to work after you've put in so many classroom hours by the end of the week.

Which I get it, you wanted normal school and you got some modified school. But that irrelevant from an immuno stimulus perspective. Southern kids have been all kinds of sneezed, coughed, and muddied up in the last year.

I’m sure that’s why the CDC reported that the flu was down 98%. You realize that’s almost non existent right? Arguing that our kids were not kept like bubble boys for a year (we all were to a degree) is a losing battle. That’s why you keep making stuff up and I’m providing mainstream links even, that state the opposite.
 
Kids NEED to be in schools! We had a group of 7th grade kids today and there were 4 of us and at one time or another we all remarked at their social skills and behaviors that were super elementary in nature. That level of child out here stopped in person learning in the spring of their 5th grade year and they are about to start their 7th grade year. Not only a new grade but a new school and quite a few were behaving like they were in 5th grade still. There really is a difference from 6 to 7 to 8 and you wouldn't know it today. Lockdowns at this point are so counterproductive. Let's just live and let live
 
I’m sure that’s why the CDC reported that the flu was down 98%. You realize that’s almost non existent right? Arguing that our kids were not kept like bubble boys for a year (we all were to a degree) is a losing battle. That’s why you keep making stuff up and I’m providing mainstream links even, that state the opposite.

Look at any of the videos on YouTube of people even in deep blue places like California out partying at the beach during the heart of the pandemic. I'm not going to dig it all up for you.

I recognize that we had a year in which we were all generally far less exposed to germs than was traditional. But just because I noticed that within my family and in the national numbers, doesn't mean that effect is equivalent to throwing infected small pox blankets into a Native American encampment.
 
It’s actually really sad the sacrifice most children have been forced to make, and here we are a year later, 50+% vaccinated, natural antibodies, and still freaking out and talking about lockdowns. Just a gigantic failure at all levels, and it continues every day that we don’t get to the bottom of who is really behind this entire thing.
 
It’s actually really sad the sacrifice most children have been forced to make, and here we are a year later, 50+% vaccinated, natural antibodies, and still freaking out and talking about lockdowns. Just a gigantic failure at all levels, and it continues every day that we don’t get to the bottom of who is really behind this entire thing.
You'll never bring down the Rothschild.

Primarily because even if you got them, the conspiracy would have you believe you got a body double 😆
 
Kids NEED to be in schools! We had a group of 7th grade kids today and there were 4 of us and at one time or another we all remarked at their social skills and behaviors that were super elementary in nature. That level of child out here stopped in person learning in the spring of their 5th grade year and they are about to start their 7th grade year. Not only a new grade but a new school and quite a few were behaving like they were in 5th grade still. There really is a difference from 6 to 7 to 8 and you wouldn't know it today. Lockdowns at this point are so counterproductive. Let's just live and let live
I dont often agree with you, but I will give credit when due. This is a great post. Its not just the intellect that suffers its the behaviors. That is rarely brought up. Excellent point of of view on this!
 
You'll never bring down the Rothschild.

Primarily because even if you got them, the conspiracy would have you believe you got a body double 😆

I noticed you called it a conspiracy, meaning you believe it to be true as well 😉 I’ll consider that a secret handshake 😂
 
You just responded to something I didn’t say. It has nothing to do with wether you get sick or not. Not being exposed to germs regularly makes you immunosuppressed. Here’s a link:

Actually you are not immunosuppressed. Your immune system is naive to new infectious agents. Your immune system after being isolated is still completely functional to respond to pathogens but it gets exposed all at once to multiple things it hasn't seen and that can be overwhelming.
 
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Wrong. Kids in red states were on heavily adjusted school schedules as well. Ranging from short days to barely any in-person days during the week. It’s not like they were basically encouraged to beat off with hand sanitizer either right? Masks all day, including during gym class. Such a disgrace.

I see what the goal is now though with the delta variant. They’ve been pushing to vaccinate children younger and younger but there was no reason. What perfect timing the delta variant is, from a scientifically engineered virus, no less. Oh and would ya look at that? It’s even harming our children now?? 😮 Amazing how it will all perfectly work out for the sheeple calling for every human to be vaccinated.
Of more concern to me is the Lambda variant. So far it APPEARS that the vaccines don't protect against Lambda. A naturally acquired infection with the other common strains we have now DOES seem to protect against Lambda. That being the case, I'm going to try to get exposed to at least one of our current strains ASAP to booster by vaccination immunity.
 
Of more concern to me is the Lambda variant. So far it APPEARS that the vaccines don't protect against Lambda. A naturally acquired infection with the other common strains we have now DOES seem to protect against Lambda. That being the case, I'm going to try to get exposed to at least one of our current strains ASAP to booster by vaccination immunity.
I am replying to you here because you seem to be pretty informed on this and I am curious your opinion on this. I have a teacher friend with Crohn's disease. They have been super careful as far as letting anyone their house etc. Anyway he got the J&J shot in early March. He went in for an antibody test through his Dr in mid July and it came back that he had zero trace of any antibodies. He was pretty pissed. He just got round 1 of Pfizer yesterday to be safe. Any guesses why there were no signs of antibodies ? Shouldnt the J&J shot have left traces of that? I am genuinely curious. Was the Pfizer shot an overreaction?
 
I am replying to you here because you seem to be pretty informed on this and I am curious your opinion on this. I have a teacher friend with Crohn's disease. They have been super careful as far as letting anyone their house etc. Anyway he got the J&J shot in early March. He went in for an antibody test through his Dr in mid July and it came back that he had zero trace of any antibodies. He was pretty pissed. He just got round 1 of Pfizer yesterday to be safe. Any guesses why there were no signs of antibodies ? Shouldnt the J&J shot have left traces of that? I am genuinely curious. Was the Pfizer shot an overreaction?
I am not Dingle, but I spend way too much time listening and watching internet stuff. From what I have read,
people who have received a COVID-19 vaccination, antibody testing is not recommended to determine whether you are immune or protected from COVID-19. My understanding is that the antibody test is, at times, not accurate. Much like the vaccine itself, some haven't been approved by the FDA.
 
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I am not Dingle, but I spend way too much time listening and watching internet stuff. From what I have read,
people who have received a COVID-19 vaccination, antibody testing is not recommended to determine whether you are immune or protected from COVID-19. My understanding is that the antibody test is, at times, not accurate. Much like the vaccine itself, some haven't been approved by the FDA.
Got it. He is super paranoid about most things but I guess whatever gives him peace of mind
 
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It's not a surprise. Everyone takes turn eating their own. Noem is taking all kinds of fire nationally from grassroots folks who were championing her as the second coming because of her covid performance. People care about outcomes not ideology. And right now the only acceptable outcome for some is I don't wanna.
Noem pooped the bed a second time in as many months. Her national aspirations are toast.
 
I am not Dingle, but I spend way too much time listening and watching internet stuff. From what I have read,
people who have received a COVID-19 vaccination, antibody testing is not recommended to determine whether you are immune or protected from COVID-19. My understanding is that the antibody test is, at times, not accurate. Much like the vaccine itself, some haven't been approved by the FDA.
Plus, there’s different types of antibody tests and it depends on which one your doctor orders that will detect anything of substance.
 
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Of more concern to me is the Lambda variant. So far it APPEARS that the vaccines don't protect against Lambda. A naturally acquired infection with the other common strains we have now DOES seem to protect against Lambda. That being the case, I'm going to try to get exposed to at least one of our current strains ASAP to booster by vaccination immunity.
The Lambda variant is a pussy cat compared to the newest most dangerous variant.

 
I am replying to you here because you seem to be pretty informed on this and I am curious your opinion on this. I have a teacher friend with Crohn's disease. They have been super careful as far as letting anyone their house etc. Anyway he got the J&J shot in early March. He went in for an antibody test through his Dr in mid July and it came back that he had zero trace of any antibodies. He was pretty pissed. He just got round 1 of Pfizer yesterday to be safe. Any guesses why there were no signs of antibodies ? Shouldnt the J&J shot have left traces of that? I am genuinely curious. Was the Pfizer shot an overreaction?

Supposedly, if you body has no reason to make antibodies they decrease over time. That's where t-cells come in.

 
I am not Dingle, but I spend way too much time listening and watching internet stuff. From what I have read,
people who have received a COVID-19 vaccination, antibody testing is not recommended to determine whether you are immune or protected from COVID-19. My understanding is that the antibody test is, at times, not accurate. Much like the vaccine itself, some haven't been approved by the FDA.
The antibody test does not measure cell mediated immunity which is a huge part of your immune system. Your memory T cells respond to an antigen (foreign protein) you've previously been exposed to either through naturally acquired infection or by vaccination. When that happens the T memory cells stimulate production of completely new antibodies. There is not a simple test to measure your cell mediated immunity to a pathogen so many people mistakenly ignore it.
 
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Supposedly, if you body has no reason to make antibodies they decrease over time. That's where t-cells come in.

The future is now cold, flu, and covid season. We better get used to it. For the love of all things holy and pure, people need to start taking care of themselves and realize they were born with a fully functioning immune system.
 
The antibody test does not measure cell mediated immunity which is a huge part of your immune system. Your memory T cells respond to an antigen (foreign protein) you've previously been exposed to either through naturally acquired infection or by vaccination. When that happens the T memory cells stimulate production of completely new antibodies. There is not a simple test to measure your cell mediated immunity to a pathogen so many people mistakenly ignore it.
But you only get T cells if you are exposed to the actual virus. correct? The vaccines do not provide you system with T cells.

If you don't know if you have been exposed to Covid or had it, and you have a couple of extra Benjamins in the bank, you can do a test from T-Detect that will tell you if you have been exposed and still have active T cells in your system.
 
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I am replying to you here because you seem to be pretty informed on this and I am curious your opinion on this. I have a teacher friend with Crohn's disease. They have been super careful as far as letting anyone their house etc. Anyway he got the J&J shot in early March. He went in for an antibody test through his Dr in mid July and it came back that he had zero trace of any antibodies. He was pretty pissed. He just got round 1 of Pfizer yesterday to be safe. Any guesses why there were no signs of antibodies ? Shouldnt the J&J shot have left traces of that? I am genuinely curious. Was the Pfizer shot an overreaction?
Circulating antibodies often only last for a matter of weeks. One exception can be antibodies to human rabies vaccine and tetanus. Those may last for a decade or more. I was vaccinated for Rabies in the early 80s and still carried a positive titre over 20 years later. As somebody else posted, an antibody test alone doesn't give you the whole picture of your immune protection against a virus. That said, IF I had the J&J vaccine I would probably be looking to get a booster of Moderna's. The next question is what medication is he on for his Crohn's disease. IF he's on Remicade that does cause some immunosuppression. There is another drug called Entyvio that works well usually for Crohn's but switching is a major decision because if you're on Remicade and switch to something else you usually can't go back to Remicade.

The good news is that IF he is fairly young and vaccinated, I think he'll be okay regardless of what treatment he's on. Hopefully he's not on steroids for any length of time.
 
The Lambda variant is a pussy cat compared to the newest most dangerous variant.

Lambda may be a pussy cat for young folks but it wouldn't necessarily be for high risk patients. I'm kind of on the threshold of that group. A bunch of new "cases" of Lambda would give ample excuse for the political machine to ramp up again for the midterm elections next year as well.
 
Lambda may be a pussy cat for young folks but it wouldn't necessarily be for high risk patients. I'm kind of on the threshold of that group. A bunch of new "cases" of Lambda would give ample excuse for the political machine to ramp up again for the midterm elections next year as well.
Duck Dingle, that post went over your head and is on the way back now like a boomerang.
 
But you only get T cells if you are exposed to the actual virus. correct? The vaccines do not provide you system with T cells.

If you don't know if you have been exposed to Covid or had it, and you have a couple of extra Benjamins in the bank, you can do a test from T-Detect that will tell you if you have been exposed and still have active T cells in your system.
Well the vaccine is supposed to prime your T memory cells to the antigens in the vaccine as well. One problem with such a specific vaccine against just a few capsular antigens is that a variant like Lambda can come along that doesn't have or need those spike proteins so the T cells may not recognize the virus. OR the neutralizing antibodies produced against those specific spike proteins don't affect the new virus because it doesn't need those particular spikes to produce infections.

I posted for months about how I thought a COVID vaccine was going to work for a long time. That was before I fully understood how specific it was going to be in it's design. Purifying it down to just a few proteins greatly reduces the risk of vaccine reactions but it also limits how broad your protection is. That is why getting a naturally acquired virus produces a better immunity. IF you've had COVID, you likely don't have to worry about Delta or Lambda.
 
Lambda may be a pussy cat for young folks but it wouldn't necessarily be for high risk patients. I'm kind of on the threshold of that group. A bunch of new "cases" of Lambda would give ample excuse for the political machine to ramp up again for the midterm elections next year as well.
OK. I'll play. What's the newest most dangerous variant?
 
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