This is somewhat off the subject but when I use to go back to Lincoln in the eighties and nineties (I was living in Seattle) I thought it was so cheap to go out to eat. Somewhere around 2000 it caught up with the rest of the country. I no longer think of it as being any different than anyplace else. Small town Nebraska is another thing. When we are back in Mecca one of my good friends who now lives in Denver says “It is so cheap I can’t afford not to drink”
OT: Tipping questions
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Go to the "Europe" system and expect to pay at least 25% more for ;your food and drinks....
quite obvious that you've either never worked in a restaurant or you simply want to change the culture of restaurant dining in the U.S.
Good reason why Seattle and restaurants outside of Nebraska are superior. Nebraska has some good restaurants, not many....Have you ever noticed why all the national food magazines, Food & Wine, Gourmet (when it was still publishing), American Express magazines, etc., jump from Nebraska from Missouri to Nevada and seldom list Nebraska restaurants? I once asked a world-famous (not pretentious) chef/restaurant critic what it took to have really good restaurants? Response was: "Good eaters"! Ponder that......In the U.S. throughout the U.S., tipping has been a part of the dining out culture.....Change it and expect 25-40% price increases...No one thinks of Nebraska as a culinary destination.
You need to have a broader understanding. Comparisons of different cultures doesn't work here.
Understand, but where are you in that situation and where did you grow up.....
excuse me sir, but you are burying my "off the grid" joke to @RedMyMind
Kindly stop artificially increasing your post count by replying to everyone individually when you could have combined your posts into one single reply.
Kindly stop artificially increasing your post count by replying to everyone individually when you could have combined your posts into one single reply.
Tipping is part of their wage which allows the more deserving to earn more money. When a business has to pay $10-14/hr for wait staff vs the $2.13 many pay their staff their overhead goes up. Do you want a commission based system solely based on what you perceive to be quality service or higher priced entrees? Don’t eat out if you don’t understand the economics of it. There’s plenty of delivery services for those that can’t make the connection. I’ll prefer a system that rewards the individual that I have control over vs higher price.
My point is, we don’t really have a choice anymore and frankly shouldn’t. Include the 20% in our bill and pay the servers accordingly. If you have a shitty customer service agent, we don’t get the right to pay less. We can complain and damage their reputation online. Brands who understand this will make sure they have great service.
I’m suggesting individuals shouldn’t have the right to judge what is good or not. You get a cheap ass and all of the sudden his empty glass of water will convince him that he can tip 5%. It’s old school and should be changed.
LOL. Tell us more. I have always wondered why North Dakota isn't a hotbed for presidential campaigns, why people don't normally go to Louisiana for downhill skiing, and why the surfing culture is pretty much non-existent in Tennessee. Any ideas?
Thanks for the info! I've been itching for one for a while now!
I try not to eat out, but when I do its definitely a grading of how attentive the waiter was to our table. Often that is 20% for good service. Also, I normally tip my barber 30%+, because he always does a great job and gets me in whenever I call.
I live in Kansas.
I have a 25$ gift card to Applebees that I've had for 3 years.
I have 6 free movie passes that I've never used, going back 7 years.
How do you get the lotion for the basket if you don't leave the house? Amazon? I kid.
I agree to a certain extent. Most of the "best" restaurants that are listed are listed because that is where the media are that are covering them. When I used to travel a lot, I would read all of the in-flight magazines as well as different articles about the best steakhouses or other restaurants and would laugh. I'd been to a lot of them and they weren't even close to some that I had in the Midwest or some other places. Food and wine is 100% subjective anyways. If you don't like it, don't eat there, but it doesn't have to be the best just because someone says it is.
many places lump all the tips in together and distribute to all the servers. sounds like a failed economic strategy
So I could be a part of the discussion, and after reading just the thread title, I ran outside real quick to tip my cow. When I opened this thread it wasn't about cow tipping at all. Such a disappointment 
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In flight magazine "top steakhouses" etc. is 100% paid to be on that list.
Actually, if everyone stopped tipping, that would be the quickest way to get restaurants to just start including it in their prices.
$1.00 if the person shows up to take the order, deliver food, and then deliver the check.
20% if they do a good job, like fill my glass and get me napkins, that kind of stuff. I like to be visited 2 times other than hi and bye.
I never tip based on quality of food. The kitchen staff has all the control there, the waiter does not.
20% if they do a good job, like fill my glass and get me napkins, that kind of stuff. I like to be visited 2 times other than hi and bye.
I never tip based on quality of food. The kitchen staff has all the control there, the waiter does not.
10% is plenty. They have to be paid minimum anyway so don't feel guilty about that. I don't ever tip for haircuts or carryout. I do try to tip well for delivery since I don't want my food to be delivered cold. There's plenty of room for automation in the food services industry that isn't being utilized because of tipping. Why should I add 15-20% to an already overpriced meal when noone ever shows up to give me a refill and takes 10 minutes to deliver the bill after I'm already done eating.
Wait staff isn't paid the regular minimum wage. They are paid a separate, lower wage that assumes customers won't try to find every reason under the sun not to tip them.
I know that they have a separate lower wage but they still will be paid the normal minimum wage if they haven't met it through tips. It doesn't bother me at all if the business owner has to pay that. Nice guilt trip though.
You don’t need a reason not to tip. It’s your money! If you want tip if not don’t.
Of course you don't. So why write a dissertation explaining all the reasons he doesn't tip?
And you're right - it's our money. So if I really think a restaurant is overpriced, I just don't eat there. I don't stiff the wait staff to offset my bad choices.
If you have money to eat out you have money to tip.
If restaurants start including the tip in the bill, how am I going to pass unfair judgment and subtly demonstrate my superiority over lowly restaurant workers?
A gentleman tips. 18-20%. 15% if you think it is still 1982. Self-important douchebags look for reasons to stiff the staff.
As for the fast food places where you have historically not tipped, I can see where there is confusion. If you have asked for any special handling - you should tip. That is what a gentleman does. If you order black coffee from Starbucks, you don’t need to tip.
No need to derail to an anti-Starbucks thread. That was just an example.
A gentleman tips. 18-20%. 15% if you think it is still 1982. Self-important douchebags look for reasons to stiff the staff.
As for the fast food places where you have historically not tipped, I can see where there is confusion. If you have asked for any special handling - you should tip. That is what a gentleman does. If you order black coffee from Starbucks, you don’t need to tip.
No need to derail to an anti-Starbucks thread. That was just an example.
I'm an excellent tipper. I usually throw $2 bills instead of your customary $1. Adds up quickly.
