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The Left will never denounce antifa or the violent actions of BLM. They resort to bringing up white supremacist. That is their constant retort. Antifa can loot stores, throw chemicals on the police and burn buildings and you will hear not one word of condemnation from Democrats. As a Republican I can clearly denounce groups like the Proud Boys when they act like racist hillbillies.
so you're out of the closet now on the left coast. What are the odds that the state of Washington goes red after the crap in Seattle? I understand that the media including most notably the Seattle Times are extremely liberal but man you would think people would wake up.
 
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So instead of doing the right thing and condemn both groups you will take a side and stick with criminals? Seems to me the easy way out.
I don't condone violence or rioting or looting. But if I'm between Antifa/BLM and Proud boys that isn't even a choice. Funny thing, All summer long I never saw any Proud Boys rioting, looting and murdering. Must have been on another network.
 
The Left will never denounce antifa or the violent actions of BLM. They resort to bringing up white supremacist. That is their constant retort. Antifa can loot stores, throw chemicals on the police and burn buildings and you will hear not one word of condemnation from Democrats. As a Republican I can clearly denounce groups like the Proud Boys when they act like racist hillbillies.

Yeah yeah yeah, we've all heard it and are bored to death etc etc.

I'm genuinely asking a very simple question: why are both of you publicly defending the Proud Boys organization, a well-known and well-defined white supremacist organization? What's your thinking, here? I mean, I would imagine it would just be a lot easier to say, "yup, Trump really screwed up on that one", but instead you're here defending white supremacists (or defending someone who is defending white supremacists, in the latter case), which makes everyone on the right look bad by association. Why die on that particular hill?
 
So instead of doing the right thing and condemn both groups you will take a side and stick with criminals? Seems to me the easy way out.

Come on, you know we all have to choose one of the racists, violent, and corrupt groups. It isn't possible to despise both.....gotta choose!
 
so you're out of the closet now on the left coast. What are the odds that the state of Washington goes red after the crap in Seattle? I understand that the media including most notably the Seattle Times are extremely liberal but man you would think people would wake up.

Not a chance in hell. I lived in the NW for a long time and there are just way too many loons in the city. You get out of Portland & Seattle metro areas in they have sane people. Not so much in the heavy urban areas,
 
Yeah yeah yeah, we've all heard it and are bored to death etc etc.

I'm genuinely asking a very simple question: why are both of you publicly defending the Proud Boys organization, a well-known and well-defined white supremacist organization? What's your thinking, here? I mean, I would imagine it would just be a lot easier to say, "yup, Trump really screwed up on that one", but instead you're here defending white supremacists (or defending someone who is defending white supremacists, in the latter case), which makes everyone on the right look bad by association. Why die on that particular hill?
Why does Kamala and Joe bail BLM and antifa rioters out of jail?? Why did they not denounce them UNTIL it started showing on the polls??????
 
Why does Kamala and Joe bail BLM and antifa rioters out of jail?? Why did they not denounce them UNTIL it started showing on the polls??????

Right I get all of that, but you're asking why people aren't doing something they didn't do. I'm asking you something much simpler, which is why you just did do something. I'm not even asking you to reconsider your defense of the Proud Boys. I'm just asking you to explain it. So...?
 
Yeah yeah yeah, we've all heard it and are bored to death etc etc.

I'm genuinely asking a very simple question: why are both of you publicly defending the Proud Boys organization, a well-known and well-defined white supremacist organization? What's your thinking, here? I mean, I would imagine it would just be a lot easier to say, "yup, Trump really screwed up on that one", but instead you're here defending white supremacists (or defending someone who is defending white supremacists, in the latter case), which makes everyone on the right look bad by association. Why die on that particular hill?
are you a socialist?
almost all the violence is coming from antifa and blm.
stop burning, looting, killing and the very small group proud boys disappears
 
I don't condone violence or rioting or looting. But if I'm between Antifa/BLM and Proud boys that isn't even a choice. Funny thing, All summer long I never saw any Proud Boys rioting, looting and murdering. Must have been on another network.

Dude, nobody is forcing you to choose between Antifa, BLM, or the Proud Boys. You're just choosing to defend the Proud Boys on your own...
 
Right I get all of that, but you're asking why people aren't doing something they didn't do. I'm asking you something much simpler, which is why you just did do something. I'm not even asking you to reconsider your defense of the Proud Boys. I'm just asking you to explain it. So...?
you dont get anything. are you impaired? your lack of understanding is astounding
 
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are you a socialist?
almost all the violence is coming from antifa and blm.
stop burning, looting, killing and the very small group proud boys disappears

So you're saying... you support a white supremacist organization because you're worried about socialism? Man, I feel like I've heard this one somewhere before...
 
Can someone tell me what white supremacy means? I know what it used to mean, but it feels like the definition has shifted to a different meaning.

For example, some define all Trump supporters as white supremacists. I’d like to know why they think that.
Whatever the tiki torch crew was marching about I would say thats the modern white supremacy
 
Come on, you know we all have to choose one of the racists, violent, and corrupt groups. It isn't possible to despise both.....gotta choose!
you dont gotta choose anything. what I will not go with is months of rioting, burning, killing and assaults by blm and antifa.
 
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I can't see how anyone could have watch that debate last night and felt good about the person each party nominated as the best they could offer to be President of the United States.

It is more embarrassing that neither candidate - nor anyone on this board - can go on record to denounce organizations/movements that are full of violent, degenerate losers that are incapable of handling adversity with anything other than destructive temper tantrums. Proud Boys and Antifa are ALL LOSERS! They offer no redeeming value at all and that needs to be stated by every rational person, unequivocally. They ALL need to be kicked back under the filthy rocks from which they came.

The fact that our Presidential candidates are afraid to denounce any of them is shameful. The fact that their 'followers' aren't equally outraged at their failure to do so should frighten all of us.

Instead of doing the incredibly simple and correct thing and taking the initiative to denounce and marginalize racist, hateful, fear-mongering, destructive losers - we're left with saying: You go first.
 
After 40 min. roughly I turned it off. It was ridiculous.

I think the questions need to come from both a left and a right leaning moderator.

I think the mods need a mute button when one candidate starts interrupting.

I think if a politician does not answer the question directly and side steps into a sales pitch on his fantasy king of the world scenario they should lose 1 minute of time.

Sick and tired of these wannabe representatives. Get cute with foreigners not the American people.
 
So you're saying... you support a white supremacist organization because you're worried about socialism? Man, I feel like I've heard this one somewhere before...
once again are you impaired? are you a socialist? do you support blm? do you support antifa. do you think rioting, theft, arson, killing, assault are ok? why are you here? do you have a job? have you ever paid for anything with your own legally earned money?
 
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I was wrong. this thread definitely proves those who care deeply about politics are winners.

NOT!

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
 
If history tells us anything about white supremacists, its that they aren't subtle. If the proud boys actually are white supremacists we would all know it and they would be doing much more than showing up at rallies.
 
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