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drubendall

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The convenient and easy part is what I mock as well: these family members complain about a system in which they prefer to partake in as opposed to undertaking the more difficult task of voting in person.

May I ask what events transpired in the 4-5 weeks that would have changed votes significantly? Personally I think most people's minds were made up how they would vote at or well before that time. Most campaigns had been occurring for a long time before then, and local measures were well publicized in my area as were profiles on candidates in the newspaper.

(At the risk of starting a conversation which may get this thread locked, so Mods, if you feel that way, feel free to delete.)
Social media and mainstream media suppressed the hunter Biden corruption story. One of the most astonishing things I've ever seen. They were going out of their way to create theories that protected the Biden crime family. I read that upwards of 17% of voters would have not voted for Joe if this story was covered properly.
 

drubendall

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Joe and company better hurry with their agenda. No excuses. They'll definitely lose the house in 2022. Maybe the Senate too but that seems less likely. And of course Joe is the oldest president ever elected, and clearly senile so he'll be one and done assuming he doesn't step down early. It's going to be tough sledding for them to convince America that kamalama ding dong is the right person for the job. I don't think she even got 3% of the vote within her own party. She is not liked.
 

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the rich getting richer, poverty and unemployment out of site, full scale recession, terrorism(real) will explode.
other than that not much will change.
 

drubendall

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the rich getting richer, poverty and unemployment out of site, full scale recession, terrorism(real) will explode.
other than that not much will change.
I'll be watching outcomes in red States like Texas, Florida, South Dakota and Nebraska to see how they mitigate the policies of the leftists. New York and California can run themselves into the ground if that's what they want. We hope they don't take us down with them.
 

Catch50

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Any Dems wanna bet that gas prices won't be around 2.00 a gallon and stock market won't be at record highs in 4 years? Anyone?? 😆
June 2008. Gas prices averaged about a record $4.40/gallon. President George W. Bush (R).

FWIW, I saw it coming.
 

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This type of attitude is pathetic.

Even though you'd benefit by working harder, because the big bad business will benefit too, then it's not worth doing.
I didn't say that at all. We shouldn't subsidize companies for their bad business practices and low pay.
 

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June 2008. Gas prices averaged about a record $4.40/gallon. President George W. Bush (R).

FWIW, I saw it coming.
What a joke that was. Everyone screaming peak oil from the rooftops. Electric cars, take me away. We've got all of the oil in the world. Why would we not use it and export it?
 

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He calls for uniting and civility while calling Cruz and Hawley nazis. Ben Sasse is a liberal facsits against free speech and fair elections.
As a constituent of Senator Sasse.....if he was running for re-election currently...I don't think he would win. Personally...I appreciate his prolife stance....but that is absolutely the only thing that comes out of that rather large pie-hole of his that I find worth listening to....and I know many others who feel the same about do nothing Sasse. (well...he does talk but that about it.)
 
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Catch50

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What a joke that was. Everyone screaming peak oil from the rooftops. Electric cars, take me away. We've got all of the oil in the world. Why would we not use it and export it?
1) I'm a huge critic of electric cars.

2) At that moment in time, we were NOT producing enough oil to keep prices down. Prices had been rising since the end of the Clinton. Because the world economy was growing. Mostly because of improvement in electronics/computer technology.
 

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Is $9/hr taking an order from Burger King not a decent wage? Is $11/stocking shelves not a decent wage? $12/hr being a cashier at Target not a decent wage?

The job doesn't consist of having much skill which is why it doesn't require to be paid more. Those are decent wages for the job that's being asked to do.

Young workers shouldn't be working at McDonald's but what's the alternative? Grown ass adults?
Hopefully automation takes over part of it. There's really no reason why automation shouldn't take over PoS/ordering. There's very little innovation in the restaurant industry and retail because they can pay workers depressed wages over multiple decades. I eat as much fast food as anybody, but I don't think it would be a bad thing if there were fewer fast food restaurants.
 

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I think what he is saying is those things will be symptomatic of other things that will change. God help us all.
I for one think we need some changes. More electric cars and trucks. Better health care programs. Minimum wages needs to be increased (probably not $15 but certainly $10). Stop relying on China for everything. All states should have the same methods to handle elections(South has been famous for restrictions on minority voters). Reduce spending. Control defense spending. Reform immigation laws( we need the workers but not the criminals). Just a start.
 

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It's going to suck to have to talk about issues again like education. What a waste time. We need to talk about keeping our guns.
Let’s talk education. US spends between #1 -# 3 (depends on source) in the world per student, but we rank between #26 -30th. Money isn’t our problem. It’s our curriculum. No more social justice BS needs to be taught in our classrooms, 75% needs to be math and science.
 
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Fed-Up

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Nice to see your sympathy for small business. Do you still have that same empathy for me when raising the minimum wage is one of Chuck, Nancy, Bernie and Elizabeths pork barrel gifts to us in Joe’s pending Covid relief bill. Train wreck and pending unemployment disaster if approved.
Raising the minimum wage is the final act in getting rid of small businesses.....big government has a hard time controlling the large segment of employers in the country ....so they are systematically making it harder for them to operate. Raising the minimum wage to $15.00 ph will take care of those that have been able to hold on through this mess. Don't worry...we will give millions to Pakistan for gender education.
 

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We might still need them to fight off your white supremacist, tiki touch carrying, insurrectionist goons. But just like the election in which we won the WH, Senate and House, aka the trifecta, I'm pretty sure we will prevail.
Interesting tone. You almost sound like Republicans aren’t American. A lot of We, but no Us.

Not a good look if you want to bring us all together.
 
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1) I'm a huge critic of electric cars.

2) At that moment in time, we were NOT producing enough oil to keep prices down. Prices had been rising since the end of the Clinton. Because the world economy was growing. Mostly because of improvement in electronics/computer technology.
It burns me up that there were so many in the United States intent on hobbling domestic production when we knew it would be good for our economy. It's in opecs best interest to control the market and keep the price as high as possible, so I don't fault them for that. Why we didn't do more to counteract them is a mystery.
 
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I'll be watching outcomes in red States like Texas, Florida, South Dakota and Nebraska to see how they mitigate the policies of the leftists. New York and California can run themselves into the ground if that's what they want. We hope they don't take us down with them.
New York and California have already run themselves into the ground.
 
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Hopefully automation takes over part of it. There's really no reason why automation shouldn't take over PoS/ordering. There's very little innovation in the restaurant industry and retail because they can pay workers depressed wages over multiple decades. I eat as much fast food as anybody, but I don't think it would be a bad thing if there were fewer fast food restaurants.
You'll be getting your wish if $15/hr goes into effect any time soon.

The big guys will be just fine if this happens. The restaurants that will die are the small ones. I don't think this is what we want.
 

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I'll be watching outcomes in red States like Texas, Florida, South Dakota and Nebraska to see how they mitigate the policies of the leftists. New York and California can run themselves into the ground if that's what they want. We hope they don't take us down with them.
California by itself would be the world's 5th largest economy. They seem to be doing okay.
 

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As a constituent of Senator Sasse.....if he was running for re-election currently...I don't think he would win. Personally...I appreciate his prolife stance....but that is absolutely the only thing that comes out of that rather large pie-hole of his that I find worth listening to....and I know many others who feel the same about do nothing Sasse. (well...he does talk but that about it.)
I agree on that. Sasse lacks backbone and substance. He needs to learn from Cotton, DeSantis, Gaetz, Noem and Hawley.
 

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I'll be watching outcomes in red States like Texas, Florida, South Dakota and Nebraska to see how they mitigate the policies of the leftists. New York and California can run themselves into the ground if that's what they want. We hope they don't take us down with them.
When you liberals ditch your awful states for mine you better start voting with common sense. Don’t f**k up Florida.
 

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It burns me up that there were so many in the United States intent on hobbling domestic production when we knew it would be good for our economy. It's in opecs best interest to control the market and keep the price as high as possible, so I don't fault them for that. Why we didn't do more to counteract them is a mystery.
You can blame the banks as much as anything. They pump in as much financing as they possibly can and then cut off that financing all at the same time and they wonder why drillers go out of business.
 

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It burns me up that there were so many in the United States intent on hobbling domestic production when we knew it would be good for our economy. It's in opecs best interest to control the market and keep the price as high as possible, so I don't fault them for that. Why we didn't do more to counteract them is a mystery.
What do you think we could have/should have done?
 

saluno22

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Social media and mainstream media suppressed the hunter Biden corruption story. One of the most astonishing things I've ever seen. They were going out of their way to create theories that protected the Biden crime family. I read that upwards of 17% of voters would have not voted for Joe if this story was covered properly.
I think found what you are referencing:


It looks like it was a small survey among 1750 voters in seven states and was conducted by a conservative group. I don’t know how these surveys typically work, but that seems like a very small amount polled in a narrow set of states by a group with confirmation bias (not saying other surveys don’t either). I’m not saying the information wouldn’t have changed votes, but the opinion piece is also trying to extrapolate that survey into a nationwide figure.

I agree with you the media shouldn’t have suppressed the information if they were going to report on it after the election like they did.

Do you have more info on the MRC survey describing the demographics of the voters surveyed? I ask because sometimes surveys take just whatever they can get (meaning those willing to answer) and it ends up being an abnormally small sample pool that isn’t necessarily representative of broader actuality. I don’t think I have heard of MRC prior to looking at this article.
 

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It burns me up that there were so many in the United States intent on hobbling domestic production when we knew it would be good for our economy. It's in opecs best interest to control the market and keep the price as high as possible, so I don't fault them for that. Why we didn't do more to counteract them is a mystery.
WTF are you talking about? U.S. energy independence skyrocketed between 2008 and 2017, despite having the guy with a really scary middle name in the White House. This continued under Trump, which is a good thing. But that's not when the trend started.

 
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Your whole rhetoric from the beginning is flawed! Democrats were caught in the 2016 election of stuffing ballots, only now they had a way around any accountability: mailed in ballots and a pandemic! Our election system is obsolete and as we've learned is totally out of control! It wasn't the GOP states Trump had to worry about, genius! Past elections should tell you that! Could have been a million court cases, no freaking judge was going to touch this, no-one, again no-one is going be the first in history to try to change a POTUS election, not going to happen! No, you should be totally disappointed in the politicians, allowing this to happen! They took the election out of the hands of WE THE PEOPLE! People caved into these politicians on both sides and this is what we end up with, who they wanted! Who they can manipulate and push out of the way, the writing is on the wall!
Please enlighten me on the states that you question?
Please cite specific examples of ballot stuffing.
Trump himself voted by mail, it’s been used for over 100 years
 
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