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drubendall

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Honestly a ton of it was hatred for Trump. Biden does not move the needle that much.
Part of me is actually glad that the Democrats have control. They will lurch too far to the left in pursuit of their socialist Utopia and take us straight over a cliff. America needs to suffer under their crazy ideology. Once the people have had enough, they'll be begging for Trump 2.0. it's a luxury to be arguing over which pronouns to use when there are actual real problems in the world going unaddressed. Time for everyone to get a bucket of cold water poured over their head.
 

John_J_Rambo

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Believe you me, I’m trying.

I wish I could have your optimism regarding the incoming administration and their impact (or lack thereof). Joe is an idiot with few original thoughts in his head. He’ll have plenty of people in his ear trying to fill the empty space within his skull. I don’t know that he has the capacity to determine for himself what is right from wrong. That certainly won’t improve as his mental capabilities continue to decline.
the good news is a vast majority of his chronies have also been in the public sector for decades, and share his incapacity for individual thought.

I cannot imagine there will be much creativity coming out of Washington under their reign. it will be more or less the same policies being retreaded from the last 40 years.

biden served in the senate alongside more than half a dozen guys who were born in the 1800s.
 
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What conservatives can't figure out is there are plenty of people who do live on only the minimum wage and they can still be stuck at or near poverty level even working full time.
Let me give you an example, from Singapore. They employ senior citizens, at a very low pay, to mop floors and such, to not only keep those people physically active, but also to have them be a part of the society.

This is a perfect example of a situation that the free market solved, but would be eliminated by a minimum wage mandate. So with that mandate, those jobs don't exist.

An agriculture based example means we can't legally pay Americans to work the fields, so we must import that labor at even lower wages, due to the mandate.

So you see, it's actually a bad thing for your economy and actually promotes illegal immigration and human trafficking.
 
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Part of me is actually glad that the Democrats have control. They will lurch too far to the left in pursuit of their socialist Utopia and take us straight over a cliff. America needs to suffer under their crazy ideology. Once the people have had enough, they'll be begging for Trump 2.0. it's a luxury to be arguing over which pronouns to use when there are actual real problems in the world going unaddressed. Time for everyone to get a bucket of cold water poured over their head.
Good team player you are rooting for the United States. By the way, the hellish American you are predicting...Look around! I'd rather deal with pronouns than 400,000 dead in a single year or an insurrection of the Capitol.
 

saluno22

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At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
If you're going to steal someone else's material, at least give credit. But I suppose stealing is the norm on the left, amirite?
In fairness, it's a pretty well-known quote. I doubt many people don't recognize it. But then again, the movie is about 25 years old. So with that said...
 

TruHusker

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It’s over. Move on and live your life as normal just like everyone did the last four years, for the vast majority of people very little will change in your day to day life. I’m sure everyone will find more insane conspiracy theories to subscribe to soon enough.
A nice gesture on your part. I guess we should just ignore:
A border that will allow a flood of new people into a already hurting economy
$15 minimum wage that will require every business to raise prices and local and state governments to raise taxes
Get ready for inflation
Tax dollars used to murder innocent babies in this country and around the world
Current tax cuts repealed
Gun control and a proposed buy back and confiscation program
government control over my health care
No private ownership of property - See the Great Reset
Green new deal - oil and natural gas are bad for us all
Too much beef and chicken being raised, we must all go plant diet - see Green New Deal Reset

These won't affect my life one bit. I am immune to all of it. Reality will eventually set in
 

Capdanjou

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Believe you me, I’m trying.

I wish I could have your optimism regarding the incoming administration and their impact (or lack thereof). Joe is an idiot with few original thoughts in his head. He’ll have plenty of people in his ear trying to fill the empty space within his skull. I don’t know that he has the capacity to determine for himself what is right from wrong. That certainly won’t improve as his mental capabilities continue to decline.
I am not going to speak to Biden's mental state. I don't know the guy, nor do I have any personal connection to his administration. People seem to think that just because you vote for someone you can't criticize them. If he does a bad job, and he may, then he'll get the criticism he deserves. I hope for America that he doesn't lose his mind on the job. He wouldn't be the first.

But here is where I take issue with your post. It seems that you supported and voted for Trump. Did you have similar concerns about his mental state? The guy said a lot of super crazy sh**. Did it give you cause to question his mental capabilities?
 

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Part of me is actually glad that the Democrats have control. They will lurch too far to the left in pursuit of their socialist Utopia and take us straight over a cliff. America needs to suffer under their crazy ideology. Once the people have had enough, they'll be begging for Trump 2.0. it's a luxury to be arguing over which pronouns to use when there are actual real problems in the world going unaddressed. Time for everyone to get a bucket of cold water poured over their head.
You really are living in a silo. Biden may turn out to be a bad president. The pendulum may swing back to the right. But Trump will go down as the worst president in American history. He is one of the few presidents to get voted out of office. He lost the House and Senate on his watch. He is reviled across the country and world. His most avid supporters are lunatics who stormed the capitol intent on killing the VP. Seriously, dude, you are delusional if you think the country wasn't already in a free fall under Trump.
 

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Good team player you are rooting for the United States. By the way, the hellish American you are predicting...Look around! I'd rather deal with pronouns than 400,000 dead in a single year or an insurrection of the Capitol.
How did that end up being a multiple choice question? You act like anyone else could have handled the Chinese pandemic better than Donald Trump and gotten a better result.
 

Capdanjou

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How did that end up being a multiple choice question? You act like anyone else could have handled the Chinese pandemic better than Donald Trump and gotten a better result.
OMG. You have got to be phucking kidding me. You really are delusional, or poorly informed. Thankfully this brand of willful ignorance left the building this morning. Can I get a hell yeah??!!
 

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I'm okay with those results. Most of those businesses who can't pay their employees a decent wage shouldn't be in business in the first place. As for the younger workers, they should be working at internships instead of at McDonald's anyway. Maybe something like half the minimum wage with strict rules on what's considered an internship and also incentives to create more intern positions.
Is $9/hr taking an order from Burger King not a decent wage? Is $11/stocking shelves not a decent wage? $12/hr being a cashier at Target not a decent wage?

The job doesn't consist of having much skill which is why it doesn't require to be paid more. Those are decent wages for the job that's being asked to do.

Young workers shouldn't be working at McDonald's but what's the alternative? Grown ass adults?
 

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So the how the hell did he get 81 million votes and Obama had 69 million and creepy Joe never campaigned at all except in his basement...
Why is this such a mystery? We are a country of roughly 330 million. Roughly 159.6. million voted in 2020. And still we came no where near total participation of eligible voters. Trump was hugely unpopular. Tens of millions of Americans, including Republicans, were desperate for an end to his presidency, desperate for some semblance of normalcy. Voter turnout on both sides of the aisle was huge. What is so hard to understand?
 

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You really are living in a silo. Biden may turn out to be a bad president. The pendulum may swing back to the right. But Trump will go down as the worst president in American history. He is one of the few presidents to get voted out of office. He lost the House and Senate on his watch. He is reviled across the country and world. His most avid supporters are lunatics who stormed the capitol intent on killing the VP. Seriously, dude, you are delusional if you think the country wasn't already in a free fall under Trump.
Nah, you're the delusional one. Trump deserves a share of the blame for losing the election by getting into petty fights and making enemies over stupid disagreements. See John McCain as exhibit one. The reason middle America responded to a populist like Trump just shows how much disgust and contempt we have for the mainstream media and the coastal elites. The hate for the Clinton machine is deep and abiding. The level of corruption within all government institutions has brought our trust in them to an all-time low. Trump gave people a measure of hope. We all know it's the role of government to protect the borders. We all instinctively know that China is out to screw us every which way but loose. We know big tech has taken it upon themselves to be the Free speech police and are an enemy of the Constitution. We don't care what the socialists in Europe think. History will be kind to Trump. You are very much afraid of him which is why you are proceeding with the absurd impeachment movement. Buckle up buttercup. You're about to have more trumpism not less.
 

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This type of attitude is pathetic.

Even though you'd benefit by working harder, because the big bad business will benefit too, then it's not worth doing.
Salesman: I need to get paid more.
Bossman: Make more sales, you'll get paid more.
Salesman: I could, but if I did you'll make more too.
 
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OMG. You have got to be phucking kidding me. You really are delusional, or poorly informed. Thankfully this brand of willful ignorance left the building this morning. Can I get a hell yeah??!!
I realize that you're just a dumb college kid. Never been married, had kids, made a payroll, had a mortgage, so I take your absurd opinions with a grain of salt. Get some life experience and we'll talk in 10 years.
 

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Why is this such a mystery? We are a country of roughly 330 million. Roughly 159.6. million voted in 2020. And still we came no where near total participation of eligible voters. Trump was hugely unpopular. Tens of millions of Americans, including Republicans, were desperate for an end to his presidency, desperate for some semblance of normalcy. Voter turnout on both sides of the aisle was huge. What is so hard to understand?
How many of your 330 million are illegal immigrants?
Mail in voting was afraid.. next election everyone votes that can leave their house that go shopping and going for groceries and out to dinner including stopping by McDonald’s..

Need to have proof that you’re not a Illegal citizen in this country, not just a damn drivers license that you don’t pay any car insurance for..
 

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Has anyone seen the check from Mexico for that wall, if the wall is even there
The trade deal was completely redone with Mexico and Canada and will be in place for years! Unless politicians get a kickback/another bribe at the top level! The trade deal will pay for the wall many times over, again unless the politicians don't totally screw up this up! Plus the fact the USA was pulling tariffs in from China, like an open ATM! China wanted Trump out, because he's the only person who has stood up to their BS! Questioned their motivations, pulled the world together to deal with China's strategy and foiled their run on domination of every country, stealing technology and putting the world's exports in the toilet. Now, that pervert Biden is at the helm, humming Xi is his only priority!
 

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I realize that you're just a dumb college kid. Never been married, had kids, made a payroll, had a mortgage, so I take your absurd opinions with a grain of salt. Get some life experience and we'll talk in 10 years.
Mmk. Trump ended up being the thing he absolutely reviles. A resounding loser in a fair and free democratic election. Sorry fella.
 

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I own a small business. I haven’t taken a cent for the past six months to make sure my employees are paid. I don’t understand why people are so scared of increasing minimum wage. IMO it should increase about $5 per hour. Won’t hurt my bottom line even though we aren’t exactly flourishing. I pay my employees well for their time and I’d rather take the hit than for them to have a hardship. It will give people more money to utilize other small businesses and force larger businesses to play on a more equal field with smaller businesses like mine. Only downside is it might increase the cost of your BigMac.

Keep in mind increasing minimum wage is giving more money to workers. People who want to contribute to society. It’s not a government handout.
With Biden's tax plan that's a fallacy! The government is going to take a good chunk of that money! Its a situation that politicians don't think those people know how to spend their own money, however, how much truth there maybe to this! Plus technology is going to start replacing those $15 wage earners, more and more each year, one can see this coming already! Then add in the additional cost of benefits plus the decrease in offered benefits, which requires the wage earner to use any increase to make up for that. And the fact that more and more US citizens are going to be in a world of hurt, competing with all these illegals vying for those same jobs! Only downside my bum!
 

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A large percentage of people won’t be filling their car up with gas in four years.

Also I’m not sure we should consider the stock market as the main indicator of the economy health when so many small businesses have died this year despite this “wealth”.
I will be. Diesel to be exact.
 

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How many of your 330 million are illegal immigrants?
Mail in voting was afraid.. next election everyone votes that can leave their house that go shopping and going for groceries and out to dinner including stopping by McDonald’s..

Need to have proof that you’re not a Illegal citizen in this country, not just a damn drivers license that you don’t pay any car insurance for..
With respect to mail-in voting, I have group of five family members who share your sentiments: that it is all a fraud and shouldn't be allowed. All but one of them voted by mail. They cited convenience of researching candidates and issues as they read through the ballot, convenience in avoiding crowds, and convenience in reducing transit time. (I can't recall if the other one did early in-person voting or in person on election day).

Point being, they were arguing it's a fraudulent system, but participating in the same manner while able to vote in person if they really wanted to.
 
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What conservatives can't figure out is there are plenty of people who do live on only the minimum wage and they can still be stuck at or near poverty level even working full time.
I would tell those people. finish your schooling or job training, dont have a baby until you are married and dont go to jail. You do those 3 things your chances of being at the bottom rung of society are slim to none.
 

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I own a small business. I haven’t taken a cent for the past six months to make sure my employees are paid. I don’t understand why people are so scared of increasing minimum wage. IMO it should increase about $5 per hour. Won’t hurt my bottom line even though we aren’t exactly flourishing. I pay my employees well for their time and I’d rather take the hit than for them to have a hardship. It will give people more money to utilize other small businesses and force larger businesses to play on a more equal field with smaller businesses like mine. Only downside is it might increase the cost of your BigMac.

Keep in mind increasing minimum wage is giving more money to workers. People who want to contribute to society. It’s not a government handout.
There is absolutely nothing stopping you from giving your employees as big a raise as you want. Just do it now but don't tell every school, every county, every city that everyone is entitled to a certain wage no matter what their education, skill or level of expertise. Let the market decide that.
 

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Africa is run by warlords, and India by a caste system. Regulations are not the reason our country is as rich as it is today. That's the most absurd statement I've heard in a long time. The capitalistic economy is the reason why the US is wealthy. Those other countries don't operate that way either.
So you're saying the governing mechanism is more important than the existence of a free market? That I agree with. Markets are good for determining prices, but they don't decide anything. Most developing countries have more of a free market system than we do.

Rules and regulations decide how the economy is setup. The capitalist economy is governed by regulations. And by the way, capitalism is a very social concept pooling resources together in order to have the money required to finance projects that will generate a return.
 

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With respect to mail-in voting, I have group of five family members who share your sentiments: that it is all a fraud and shouldn't be allowed. All but one of them voted by mail. They cited convenience of researching candidates and issues as they read through the ballot, convenience in avoiding crowds, and convenience in reducing transit time. (I can't recall if the other one did early in-person voting or in person on election day).

Point being, they were arguing it's a fraudulent system, but participating in the same manner while able to vote in person if they really wanted to.
A lot of people voted 4 and 5 weeks too early. Too many events occurred in that time frame which would have changed votes. But at least I'm comforted that they found the whole process convenient and easy. That's what really counts.
 

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Anyone with a brain who uses evidence and facts knows the election wasn't stolen. Think for yourself. It's sad to see so many people delusional when Republican secretary of states and Republican Governors ran most of the states that were close. 60 court cases, many with judges he appointed.
74 million is a large number. Congrats. However, 81 million is larger. The election was closer due to the Electoral College. Close, but no cigar.
You should be disappointed with your candidate. Trump easily could have won, had he actually tried more on Covid and just acted presidential.
Your whole rhetoric from the beginning is flawed! Democrats were caught in the 2016 election of stuffing ballots, only now they had a way around any accountability: mailed in ballots and a pandemic! Our election system is obsolete and as we've learned is totally out of control! It wasn't the GOP states Trump had to worry about, genius! Past elections should tell you that! Could have been a million court cases, no freaking judge was going to touch this, no-one, again no-one is going be the first in history to try to change a POTUS election, not going to happen! No, you should be totally disappointed in the politicians, allowing this to happen! They took the election out of the hands of WE THE PEOPLE! People caved into these politicians on both sides and this is what we end up with, who they wanted! Who they can manipulate and push out of the way, the writing is on the wall!
 

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I am not going to speak to Biden's mental state. I don't know the guy, nor do I have any personal connection to his administration. People seem to think that just because you vote for someone you can't criticize them. If he does a bad job, and he may, then he'll get the criticism he deserves. I hope for America that he doesn't lose his mind on the job. He wouldn't be the first.

But here is where I take issue with your post. It seems that you supported and voted for Trump. Did you have similar concerns about his mental state? The guy said a lot of super crazy sh**. Did it give you cause to question his mental capabilities?
I hope that the next administration is held accountable for their performance. I’m skeptical that they will, at least to the extent that Trump’s was.

As for Trump’s behavior, as previously mentioned, I am not a fan... of him as a leader. I do, however, differentiate that from the general policy decisions that were being made under his administration, which on the whole, I mostly agreed with... especially with respect to what we’re likely to see in the next 4 years.
 

saluno22

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A lot of people voted 4 and 5 weeks too early. Too many events occurred in that time frame which would have changed votes. But at least I'm comforted that they found the whole process convenient and easy. That's what really counts.
The convenient and easy part is what I mock as well: these family members complain about a system in which they prefer to partake in as opposed to undertaking the more difficult task of voting in person.

May I ask what events transpired in the 4-5 weeks that would have changed votes significantly? Personally I think most people's minds were made up how they would vote at or well before that time. Most campaigns had been occurring for a long time before then, and local measures were well publicized in my area as were profiles on candidates in the newspaper.

(At the risk of starting a conversation which may get this thread locked, so Mods, if you feel that way, feel free to delete.)
 

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Biden was a very uninspiring choice but the alternative was four more years of dysfunction. Just hoping Biden's team can get the pandemic under control asap. I'm hoping that, plus more direct aid to the people, are the two biggest priorities.
 
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