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Oregon got conservative??

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This notion that Oregon got conservative or let their foot off the gas in the second half is just absurd. Rewatch the game, they ran the same stuff in the second half. Fly sweeps, Freeman between the tackles, WR screens, play action. Our defense just played better and more aggressive and actually gained a little momentum. Taggert even said as much in his lost game presser.
 
This notion that Oregon got conservative or let their foot off the gas in the second half is just absurd. Rewatch the game, they ran the same stuff in the second half. Fly sweeps, Freeman between the tackles, WR screens, play action. Our defense just played better and more aggressive and actually gained a little momentum. Taggert even said as much in his lost game presser.
how dare you confuse the narrative with facts. I've heard multiple college DCs including fhcBP say that they needed to wait until halftime to make adjustments. Given Diaco is in the box and working with a new staff I find that especially plausible.
 
What were the passing/rushing attempts in each half? Seemed even to me. I just thought NU looked much better in the second half.
 
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What were the passing/rushing attempts in each half? Seemed even to me. I just thought NU looked much better in the second half.
Regardless of what the attempts ended up being, what we were doing defensively would influence that final number. There is no doubt that our D played better. Was it what we were doing, what Oregon wasn't doing or both. I would guess both. I do think we'll get better as these kids get more time in the system. Experience isn't going to replace Chris Jones but it has to help. Man we could have used him yesterday.
 
It's also absurd to say "well if they didn't have so many dropped balls and mistakes" then they would've won. Both teams make mistakes, if you remove them from the picture for one then you do so for the other as well.
 
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It's also absurd to say "well if they didn't have so many dropped balls and mistakes" then they would've won. Both teams make mistakes, if you remove them from the picture for one then you do so for the other as well.

I don't understand, who is removing any mistakes from the picture? I simply said that Oregon did not take their foot off the gas in the second half, they ran the same stuff they did in the first half, our defense just played better.
 
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Winning games throwing 4 pics is tough, more so when 42 first half points are spotted. But they came close to pulling it off.
 
I don't understand, who is removing any mistakes from the picture? I simply said that Oregon did not take their foot off the gas in the second half, they ran the same stuff they did in the first half, our defense just played better.

No, I'm adding that to the pile of reasons for our second half defensive success. Not only did Oregon go conservative they also made mistakes in the second half. If they continued to throw the ball (a spread option team) and not make mistakes then they would've killed Nebraska. I was just saying that one cant remove their mistakes from the picture while keeping ours in place. Without our mistakes in the first half things could have looked much better.
 
No, I'm adding that to the pile of reasons for our second half defensive success. Not only did Oregon go conservative they also made mistakes in the second half. If they continued to throw the ball (a spread option team) and not make mistakes then they would've killed Nebraska. I was just saying that one cant remove their mistakes from the picture while keeping ours in place. Without our mistakes in the first half things could have looked much better.

Oregon threw the ball 25 times in the 1st half and 8 times in the 2nd half. The Oregon qb had 25 completions in 33 attempts. 21 of those completions were in the 1st half.
 
Oregon threw the ball 25 times in the 1st half and 8 times in the 2nd half. The Oregon qb had 25 completions in 33 attempts. 21 of those completions were in the 1st half.
Ahhhh...and another piece of the puzzle falls into place
 
No, I'm adding that to the pile of reasons for our second half defensive success. Not only did Oregon go conservative they also made mistakes in the second half. If they continued to throw the ball (a spread option team) and not make mistakes then they would've killed Nebraska. I was just saying that one cant remove their mistakes from the picture while keeping ours in place. Without our mistakes in the first half things could have looked much better.

Exactly right. Sorry I can't read ;)
 
Oregon threw the ball 25 times in the 1st half and 8 times in the 2nd half. The Oregon qb had 25 completions in 33 attempts. 21 of those completions were in the 1st half.
So they were only 4/8 in the second half? Plus an interception that set up a score. They weren't having near as much success throwing the ball and didn't run near as many plays, going three and out several times.
 
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Wait...did they only attempt 8 passes in the second half?
they were 4/7 passing in the 3rd quarter with a pick. They ran the ball 8 times for 51 yards or over 6 ypc in the 3rd. We shut them out in the 3rd quarter. They were up by a couple of TDs. What would you do in the 4th qtr? They tried to run it obviously and run the clock. They ran it 16 times in the 4th quarter largely unsuccessfully and almost let us at least tie the game up. I do think our more aggressive D in the 2nd half contributed to their pulling back the reins in the passing game.
 
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So they were only 4/8 in the second half? Plus an interception that set up a score. They weren't having near as much success throwing the ball and didn't run near as many plays, going three and out several times.

They also threw the ball 1 time in the 4th quarter.
 
I can't believe NU couldn't knock around that 12 year old lookin' QB of theirs. But what do I know.
 
Why on Earth would Oregon let off the gas? We arent some little team. We beat them last year. They had a lot to prove... throwing us out of Autzen with the cold water and the baby are what they wanted. Instead they got a game.
 
So they were only 4/8 in the second half? Plus an interception that set up a score. They weren't having near as much success throwing the ball and didn't run near as many plays, going three and out several times.
One was a drop by a TE that was wide open. The play where we got the interception, I don't know what they were doing. They only had 2 guys running routes and the qb forced it into double coverage. I know they ran a few wr screen plays that got bungled up and were too slow developing. They stopped running the seam and post routes that were absolutely killing us in the first half.
 
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One was a drop by a TE that was wide open. The play where we got the interception, I don't know what they were doing. They only had 2 guys running routes and the qb forced it into double coverage. I know they ran a few wr screen plays that got bungled up and were too slow developing. They stopped running the seam and post routes that were absolutely killing us in the first half.
Prolly wishful thinking on my part, but did we just have those seam and post routes covered better? And that's why they stopped running those plays?
 
they were 4/7 passing in the 3rd quarter with a pick. They ran the ball 8 times for 51 yards or over 6 ypc in the 3rd. We shut them out in the 3rd quarter. They were up by a couple of TDs. What would you do in the 4th qtr? They tried to run it obviously and run the clock. They ran it 16 times in the 4th quarter largely unsuccessfully and almost let us at least tie the game up. I do think our more aggressive D in the 2nd half contributed to their pulling back the reins in the passing game.
I think most of that rushing yardage came on one play if I remember correctly. Otherwise they weren't able to run the ball that effectively.
 
Prolly wishful thinking on my part, but did we just have those seam and post routes covered better? And that's why they stopped running those plays?
We still had 4 linebackers out there, so I doubt it was covered better. I don't think they really tried it in the second half. They ran a deeper sideline route on one play that was covered well, and I think we were in nickel on that play.
 
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they were 4/7 passing in the 3rd quarter with a pick. They ran the ball 8 times for 51 yards or over 6 ypc in the 3rd. We shut them out in the 3rd quarter. They were up by a couple of TDs. What would you do in the 4th qtr? They tried to run it obviously and run the clock. They ran it 16 times in the 4th quarter largely unsuccessfully and almost let us at least tie the game up. I do think our more aggressive D in the 2nd half contributed to their pulling back the reins in the passing game.

Milk the clock, which is what they did too.
 
This notion that Oregon got conservative or let their foot off the gas in the second half is just absurd. Rewatch the game, they ran the same stuff in the second half. Fly sweeps, Freeman between the tackles, WR screens, play action. Our defense just played better and more aggressive and actually gained a little momentum. Taggert even said as much in his lost game presser.
What? In the fourth quarter alone they ran the ball well over 90% of the time. Seriously?
 
What? In the fourth quarter alone they ran the ball well over 90% of the time. Seriously?

Yes ma'am, I am serious. They were 4/8 with an interception throwing the ball. We also stuffed the sweeps, etc that they had so much success with the first half. We didn't shut them out because they took their foot off the gas, we shut them out because we finally adjusted and played better.
 
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The whole discussion is asinine. The defense played better because Oregon only ran 27 plays in the second half, not counting the last three to run the clock out. They ran 77 total plays in the game, so they ran 47 plays in the first half.

As was said earlier, they were very balanced in the 3rd quarter when trying to put the game away. To say the defense was only successful in the second half because Oregon was conservative is a bit disingenuous.
 
The whole discussion is asinine. The defense played better because Oregon only ran 27 plays in the second half, not counting the last three to run the clock out. They ran 77 total plays in the game, so they ran 47 plays in the first half.

As was said earlier, they were very balanced in the 3rd quarter when trying to put the game away. To say the defense was only successful in the second half because Oregon was conservative is a bit disingenuous.
True. But the OP said they didn't go conservative in the second half. That's asinine when they ran the ball almost 95% of the time in the fourth quarter.
 
True. But the OP said they didn't go conservative in the second half. That's asinine when they ran the ball almost 95% of the time in the fourth quarter.

That's what your supposed to do with a 2 score lead...right DL?
 
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True. But the OP said they didn't go conservative in the second half. That's asinine when they ran the ball almost 95% of the time in the fourth quarter.

Again this is irrelevant. The 3rd quarter they were not overly conservative, they still threw the ball half the time, they just weren't as successful in the 3rd quarter. At which point Nebraska scored 2 touchdowns and cut the lead to 14. At that point, going into the 4th quarter, Oregon started to take the air out of the ball, not run as many plays and run the ball.

I think their 3rd quarter game plan was the same as the first half, but Nebraska slowed them down. Going into the 4th they did what they were supposed to do and burn clock.

The point is that it was both, defense played better and Oregon went conservative. That is why the conversation is asinine. One of the sides is only using the 3rd quarter and the other is looking at the 4th and aren't even discussing the whole half.
 
True. But the OP said they didn't go conservative in the second half. That's asinine when they ran the ball almost 95% of the time in the fourth quarter.
No, Mrs. tom's Wife, your statement is asinine. They had no success throwing in the second half and turned the ball over trying. They also only ran 27 plays the second half because we were getting stops.
 
I suppose I should edit the OP to focus more on the "Let their foot off the gas", but I don't think that would matter much to a certain "lady".
 
No, Mrs. tom's Wife, your statement is asinine. They had no success throwing in the second half and turned the ball over trying. They also only ran 27 plays the second half because we were getting stops.


Agree to a point. The 27 plays is accurate, but some of it is because they weren't going tempo as much in the 4th qtr, taking more time off the clock. The defense did get the turnovers and more 3 and outs as well. Again it's both.
 
Agree to a point. The 27 plays is accurate, but some of it is because they weren't going tempo as much in the 4th qtr, taking more time off the clock. The defense did get the turnovers and more 3 and outs as well. Again it's both.

I totally agree, but wouldn't you say one was the result of the other. They stuck with the game plan in the 3Q and had no success, actually had a TO that led to a score. So they did what anyone would do and tried to feed their All-American RB. That's not letting off the gas, it's trying to survive against a D that had, finally, figured you out. As bad as the defense was in the first half, like it or not, the second half was good and it wasn't because they let off the gas.
 
I totally agree, but wouldn't you say one was the result of the other. They stuck with the game plan in the 3Q and had no success, actually had a TO that led to a score. So they did what anyone would do and tried to feed their All-American RB. That's not letting off the gas, it's trying to survive against a D that had, finally, figured you out. As bad as the defense was in the first half, like it or not, the second half was good and it wasn't because they let off the gas.

Yes, the success the defense had in the 3rd quarter lead to how they called the game in the 4th quarter. But, they were clearly playing ball control in the 4th. Taking their foot off the gas is so subjective, they changed gameplans in the 4th as much to take time off the clock as it was to counter the Nebraska defensive success. Yes they have a AA running back but he isn't as effective if the defense knows he is going to get the ball. The one play were Herbert kept it, he ran for 20 yards.
 
I suppose I should edit the OP to focus more on the "Let their foot off the gas", but I don't think that would matter much to a certain "lady".
Or the post title. If the roles were reversed this board would be all about how we went conservative.
 
Oregon was 6 of 8 in the first half on Third Down(two TD's off third down). They were 1 of 6 in the second half. That's the story. On the flip side, we were horrible on third down.
 
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